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Ignore the LA bashing.

I lived there for four years and moved away last June for a job, never thought I'd miss it this much. I grew up in CT/NY if that helps. LA is awesome. SF & SD are beautiful but LA is the place to be. Check out Venice beach for sure, Santa Monica, the usual Hollywood stuff, etc. Seriously if I were you I'd make the majority of my time in LA.
 
Are you going to be spending anytime in San Diego? If so check out the following places:

Gas Lamp district. It is near the airport and convention center. There are lots of really good restuarants to go to and the place is alive almost any night.

If have the time drive on down to corinado bay. Great little beach town. Some nice shops etc plus the beach!

Los Angeles is nice. I still live just on the out skirts of it. There are some really nice area's and some well you wouldn't want to be caught in, in broad daylight.

If you can make your way to long beach, there are some nice area's there also. Shoreline village, 2nd street, Belmont Shore these are all nice to go to and hang out. Lots of restuarants and shops.

If you haven't gone, another place to check out is of course Disneyland. Yes it is expensive but if you have never been it could be really fun! Especially if it is just you and the misses!
 
Something else to think about, and this is just for the nostalgia.

Heading down to the Socal Basin on your way to San Diego, you'll be coming up on the end of Route 66. The bulk of it there is still as it was when it was in its heyday (IIRC, it ends at the intersection of the Alternate US 101), but you may have the time to drive part of it from there out to Pasadena or further out to the Inland Empire (Pomona, San Bernardino, etc.)

But at least you can see not only the classic cars, but part of the route that everyone used to take to get out west, before there was an Interstate.

BL.
 
Visited SF in March of 2009; sun never made an appearance; mostly gray and fleece jacket weather.

Drive down to Santa Cruz and take a surfing lesson. That was a great afternoon. Went through this company http://www.santacruzsurfschool.com/, I recommend it. Warmer down there than in SF too.

Didn't find SF all that great, to be honest. Maybe I spent too much time with hipsters trying to be ironic drinking PBR though in the Richmond district though.
 
Visited SF in March of 2009; sun never made an appearance; mostly gray and fleece jacket weather.

Drive down to Santa Cruz and take a surfing lesson. That was a great afternoon. Went through this company http://www.santacruzsurfschool.com/, I recommend it. Warmer down there than in SF too.

Didn't find SF all that great, to be honest. Maybe I spent too much time with hipsters trying to be ironic drinking PBR though in the Richmond district though.

First mistake lol. There are way to many spots that have better beer! LOL..
 
Stay away from LA, it's a sh*thole...aside from Santa Monica

San Francisco and San Diego on the other hand....goooooorgeous

Agreed, sadly lol. But I do recommend going to Santa Monica (<-lots of homeless alert) Rodeo Drive, and The Grove.
 
Wow, what's with all the LA bashing? Can someone elaborate why it's so bad nowadays?

we love LA, but LA has some crazy spots... like south central, compton, HP, watts, mainstream inglewood, in which I am very comfortable with and grew in a similar neighborhood, but it's not a tourist destination! :p

lots of street pot holes, freeway congestion, pollution, taxi drivers are abusive,

when you reach LAX you will see tall LED lights and palm trees and hotels but when you reach pass Century Blvd and Arbor Vitae.... it's hella ghetto (that's were i live) and pass the 405, "welcome to the hood" :D
 
we love LA, but LA has some crazy spots... like south central, compton, HP, watts, mainstream inglewood, in which I am very comfortable with and grew in a similar neighborhood, but it's not a tourist destination! :p

lots of street pot holes, freeway congestion, pollution, taxi drivers are abusive,

when you reach LAX you will see tall LED lights and palm trees and hotels but when you reach pass Century Blvd and Arbor Vitae.... it's hella ghetto (that's were i live) and pass the 405, "welcome to the hood" :D

Some of those places are within Los Angeles County not Los Angeles City. LOL.. I am heck you might as well include Lancaster and Palmdale for that matter! LOL.... But I agree there are some places that you probably don't want to go to....


Ha ha, I concur. We stayed at a cheap Holiday Inn that was hosting the International Ms. Leather contest. THAT was very entertaining. You never know who is going to hop in the elevator on your way up or down.

http://www.mssfleather2009.com/2010/03/20/imsl-reception/

Ok, to see something like that, yeah I would have drank the other stuff too! LOL..... It would have been worth it! :D
 
Agreed, sadly lol. But I do recommend going to Santa Monica (<-lots of homeless alert) Rodeo Drive, and The Grove.

I've seen more homeless taking a squeegee to cars on Van Ness Ave in San Francisco than in Santa Monica. And the OP's from NYC. There's probably more homeless riding the E Train than in all of LA combined.

And yeah LA has some busted areas like South LA, Watts, etc. Just like the bay area has busted areas like Oakland and East Palo Alto. But saying LA is a shthole because of that little pocket near the 110 is like saying Manhattan is a shthole because you've never gone south of Harlem.
 
Okay, enough bashing aside. Since you have 7 days to get from SF to SD, and that's about a 700 mile trip, here's what I'd recommend:

Day 1: Stay in SF the first day, visit Fisherman's Wharf and take a day trip (go with a tour company that picks you up, and shuttles you and returns you) into Napa Valley for wine testing.

Day 2: Take the 101 south down through Big Sur. Stop in Monterey and see the incredible marine aquarium.

Continue your drive and visit Hearst Castle for a brief overview tour (get tickets and reservations ahead of time). Stay in a San Luis Obispo or better yet- stay in a Bed and Breakfast in Cambria, about 5 miles south of San Simeon (home of Hearst Castle).

Day 3: Continue your drive down the coast. Make it down to Malibu / Venice area.

Day 4: Spend the Day checking out the LA highlights (i.e.- Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica Pier, etc.). If anywhere on your week trip you should spend a second day if you have it available, this is the place to do it. There is A LOT to see and do in L.A.

Day 5: Drive down to Orange County. Stay at one of the coastal resorts (Ritz-Carlton Laguna Niguel, St. Regis Monarch Beach, Montage Laguna Beach, Pelican Hlil Resort Newport Beach). Enjoy the beaches, maybe visit South Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa for a 5-star shopping experience. Spend some time on some of the most gorgeous beaches in the U.S.

Day 6: Consider a day trip to Santa Catalina Island. Otherwise Spend Day 6 traveling down to San Diego (2 hours from OC, 3 from LA depending on traffic)

Day 7: Spend the day in San Diego. Check out the zoo, or the USS Midway, or any other major attractions. Consider a quick visit to Tijuana simply to say you've been to Mexico.

This is the very abbreviated way to pack a lot of Kalifornia into a week.

Hope this helps.
 
Okay, enough bashing aside. Since you have 7 days to get from SF to SD, and that's about a 700 mile trip, here's what I'd recommend:

Day 1: Stay in SF the first day, visit Fisherman's Wharf and take a day trip (go with a tour company that picks you up, and shuttles you and returns you) into Napa Valley for wine testing.

Day 2: Take the 101 south down through Big Sur. Stop in Monterey and see the incredible marine aquarium.

Continue your drive and visit Hearst Castle for a brief overview tour (get tickets and reservations ahead of time). Stay in a San Luis Obispo or better yet- stay in a Bed and Breakfast in Cambria, about 5 miles south of San Simeon (home of Hearst Castle).

Day 3: Continue your drive down the coast. Make it down to Malibu / Venice area.

Day 4: Spend the Day checking out the LA highlights (i.e.- Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica Pier, etc.). If anywhere on your week trip you should spend a second day if you have it available, this is the place to do it. There is A LOT to see and do in L.A.

Day 5: Drive down to Orange County. Stay at one of the coastal resorts (Ritz-Carlton Laguna Niguel, St. Regis Monarch Beach, Montage Laguna Beach, Pelican Hlil Resort Newport Beach). Enjoy the beaches, maybe visit South Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa for a 5-star shopping experience. Spend some time on some of the most gorgeous beaches in the U.S.

Day 6: Consider a day trip to Santa Catalina Island. Otherwise Spend Day 6 traveling down to San Diego (2 hours from OC, 3 from LA depending on traffic)

Day 7: Spend the day in San Diego. Check out the zoo, or the USS Midway, or any other major attractions. Consider a quick visit to Tijuana simply to say you've been to Mexico.

This is the very abbreviated way to pack a lot of Kalifornia into a week.

Hope this helps.

This is awesome Thanks!!
 
Consider a quick visit to Tijuana simply to say you've been to Mexico.

The rest of this post is a good itinerary, but unless somethings changed in the last month or two Tijuana isn't a very safe place to go, there are plenty of places in San Diego that are interesting stay there instead of crossing the border. If you do decide to go over there at least look at the travel warning for Mexico.
 
The rest of this post is a good itinerary, but unless somethings changed in the last month or two Tijuana isn't a very safe place to go, there are plenty of places in San Diego that are interesting stay there instead of crossing the border. If you do decide to go over there at least look at the travel warning for Mexico.

Couldn't agree more. Stay out of Mexico right now if you can. Just go down to SD and have a good time. No need to go to Mexico.
 
My 2 cents

Again, I've done this exact trip and have been to NorCal and SoCal some 50 times, anywhere from 3-10 times a year for the last 5-6 years now.

From SF to SD:

* 49-mile drive in SF, look for the signs. It'll hit all of the major places, Coit Tower, Lombard street, etc.

* Cross the Golden Gate bridge northbound
* Scenic overlook on the right hand side immediately after the bridge - oppty for walking the bridge, good photo opptys.
* Muir Woods. Big redwoods. Access via Route 1
* Mount Tamalpais - great views of the entire bay area
* Right before the GG bridge southbound, there's an exit to the right for an overlook, take it for even better views of the bridge with SF in the background

* If you like big infrastructure projects, take the Bay Bridge over to Oakland to see that construction. Not a lot to see in the east bay area, but Cal has a nice campus in Berkeley.

* Recommend I-280 to get from SF area to San Jose, the coast isn't anything real special and the 101 is basically urban sprawl

* Because this is an Apple forum, if you get off I-280 at DeAnza you can see Apple right there. But overall, there's really nothing to see in Silicon Valley technology-wise.

* Stanford has a nice campus

* Highway 17 from San Jose to Santa Cruz is a nice twisty mountain drive that I enjoy.

* Big Basin state park - more awesome redwoods. Access via route 236, it circles through the park.

* Monterey Bay Aquarium - DO NOT MISS THIS. Plus, the area around the aquarium has lots of places to hang out, eat etc. Something of a touristy area, but the not to be missed.

* Carmel is a nice village. Not sure if Clint is still around...

* Big Sur/coast - very nice. Watch your time, gas and food. There aren't a lot of service stations or restaurants on this stretch, plan ahead.

* Morro Bay was interesting, nice place to stop (inn at morro bay)

* Santa Barbara has nice eating/shopping areas.

* Take Hwy 1 (Pacific Coast Highway) through Malibu.

LA has lots of good things to do, too many to list here. There are parts of Long Beach and Pasadena that I like a lot, but there are also adjacent areas that are... unsavory.

In Long Beach, if you're going down the coast on Ocean Boulevard, once nice area of quaint beach homes is where Ocean and Livingston split up. Nice craftsman-style bungalows, old-school California. Eateries are a couple of blocks inland on 2nd street.

You can take PCH all the way from Long Beach to SD, and in fact I'm going to tell you do just that; it's one of my very favorite drives, I've done it maybe 20 times and I've loved it each time. See all the beach communities - stay away from I-5 (San Diego Freeway) as much as you can (although you'll have to hop on I-5 at the Marine Corps base - but get off in Oceanside and continue to SD on PCH.

Along the way, in Leucadia (just south of Carlsbad and just north of Encinitas) there's a donut shop, Luecadia Donuts. If they're open (they close when they run out!), stop and get a world-class donut! It's a very small and unassuming building on the west side of the road, so keep an eye peeled for it.

* La Jolla - certainly go here - great cove and shops/eating
* Point Loma - drive down to the end, Cabrillo monument
* Gaslamp district

As a last bit:

* Hashes a-go-go - awesome place to go for breakfast, ginormous pancakes!
 
When in SD, make sure to have some Carne Asada fries, Carne Asada chips, and a California Burrito. Lolita's ftw.

Thank me later.
 
* Hashes a-go-go - awesome place to go for breakfast, ginormous pancakes!

When in SD, make sure to have some Carne Asada fries, Carne Asada chips, and a California Burrito. Lolita's ftw.

Thank me later.

Vouching for both of these, esp the Carne Asada fries. The first one is called Hash House A Go Go though and I love the Fried Chicken Eggs Benedict there

And SD has the best Mexican Food in the whole country and if you can't find Lolita's, Albertos or any variation of Albertos (Jilbertos, Albuertos, whatever) will do.
 
Will definitely be visiting all these places... In Fact i'm keeping a spreadsheet with a list of all your suggestions which I will turn into an itinerary... I may not be able to do everything, but with 8 days I should be able to do most.

Thanks again guys.
 
Some of you guys make L.A. seem as if it's a warzone.

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It's not the 80's-90's anymore brehs
 
Just a few fairly quick things to do in SF:

For a great view of the city take a drive up to Twin Peaks.

Take a drive through Golden Gate Park. See the bison herd there and the windmill at the end near the ocean. Head north on the Great Highway and less than a mile are the Sutro Bath ruins near the Cliff House. Really amazing place. Google it.
 
Hey guys me and the GF are taking our first trip ever to CA at the end of March for my Birthday. We already booked the flights flying in to SF on 3/24 and flying out of SD on 4/1

Our plan is to drive down the Pacific coast highway stopping in L.A. and sightseeing the whole way down.

Where I need advice is does anyone know a place in SF where I can rent a nice convertible car for a decent price? The usual car rental companies are charging upwards of $200/day at the airport.

Also any ideas for sightseeing along the way would be greatly appreciated.

If you really like a very slow, scenic ride and want to see some of the most remote areas on the west coast, drive from Monterey (about 30,000 people and a good place to stay the night) and go to Los Angeles via Highway 1 South.

It will take forever if you take coastal route Highway 1 from San Francisco, but there's Half Moon Bay, the famous first California nude beach near Davenport and Neil Young's ranch as well as resting Elephant Seals, bizarre Santa Cruz and Pacific Street, and then you will see tiny towns like Carmel (only 1,900 residents year round and very charming), Carmel Highlands (perhaps hundreds living there at most, maybe and great view at Highlands Inn - Hyatt), Big Sur (Ventana, Big Sur Inn, Nepenthe), nearly empty but pristine Lucia, Gorda, Morro Bay (Morro Rock), Atascadero, Carpenteria, and the bigger cities of Santa Barbara, Oxnard, and Malibu. After that, there's Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, and then LA proper.

If you take one of the inland routes, going south first on 280/transitioning into 101, and you can see Silicon Valley (and visit Apple Inc in Cupertino), Gilroy (garlic capital of the world, but at least of the USA), Salinas (most famous city in Monterey County with John Steinbeck connections and great Steinbeck Museum), King City, Paso Robles (south county wine country), San Luis Obispo (a good overnight destination with historic mission and great shopping), Solvang (amazing, small European village), and then Santa Barbara, Hollywood, and then LA.

I live here so I have done both many times. Either way, you will see some of the great no-man's land between the anchor cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles.

From Los Angeles to San Diego, there are just too many sites to mention. This is the part of California which is most crowded and dense. You can easily spend a month in Los Angeles and not see everything. When I lived in England, most people would ask tons of questions about California and it was always about this stretch from Los Angeles to San Diego and the beach, volleyball, bikinis, surfing, celebrities, etc. But when you see the southland, you will see it's far more than what the media depicts it as.

Even though I am from that nowhere man's land between SF and LA, I still love southern California and all it has to offer. People like to knock Los Angeles but it's such a big and varied place that no matter what your interests are, there's something for you to see in that city. I also lived in London so Los Angeles is similar in that there's a lot of housing outside of the city as far as the eye can see, and in that anything you want, you can find. In the states, only New York has more people as far as a major city goes.
 
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Thanks for all the great suggestions 63dot. I was planning on spending one night in San Luis obispo to cut up my drive from SF to LA. I'll be sure to hit up as many of your suggested sights as time allows me.
 
Ignore the LA bashing.

I lived there for four years and moved away last June for a job, never thought I'd miss it this much. I grew up in CT/NY if that helps. LA is awesome. SF & SD are beautiful but LA is the place to be. Check out Venice beach for sure, Santa Monica, the usual Hollywood stuff, etc. Seriously if I were you I'd make the majority of my time in LA.

LOL, "majority of my time in LA"? Don't listen to this clown. Yeah, check out all that stuff, but unfortunately that'll take a day. Maybe two if you're really slow. Max.

Are you going to be spending anytime in San Diego? If so check out the following places:

Gas Lamp district. It is near the airport and convention center. There are lots of really good restuarants to go to and the place is alive almost any night.

Second this. Also check the waterfront. Really charming (a little fake and touristy, but it's better than the waste of time that is Fisherman's Wharf...)

Oh, and check out the SD zoo - it's fairly awesome. I abhor zoos, and even I admit the SD zoo is pretty cool - big open area for animals to roam around. You take a "safari" to see 'em.

And check out the old town, it's historic and not crowded at this time of the year, so you can take a look quick.

One more thing; once you get to San Diego, you can drop off your car and use the streetcars for a day - San Diego is astoundingly tiny, you can walk/use public transit to get to Gas Lamp, the zoo, the old town, and the airport. I'm assuming you're not public transportation-phobic, being from NYC and all.

Something else to think about, and this is just for the nostalgia.

Heading down to the Socal Basin on your way to San Diego, you'll be coming up on the end of Route 66. The bulk of it there is still as it was when it was in its heyday (IIRC, it ends at the intersection of the Alternate US 101), but you may have the time to drive part of it from there out to Pasadena or further out to the Inland Empire (Pomona, San Bernardino, etc.)

But at least you can see not only the classic cars, but part of the route that everyone used to take to get out west, before there was an Interstate.

BL.

Second this - and if you do this, make damn sure to stop at Foothill BBQ in Upland. Best. BBQ ribs. Ever. Hands ****ing down.

Didn't find SF all that great, to be honest. Maybe I spent too much time with hipsters trying to be ironic drinking PBR though in the Richmond district though.

That's like staying confined in the upper east side of Manhattan and saying Manhattan isn't all that great. Your loss, man.

Some of those places are within Los Angeles County not Los Angeles City. LOL.. I am heck you might as well include Lancaster and Palmdale for that matter! LOL.... But I agree there are some places that you probably don't want to go to....

Umm, but that's the thing - if you concentrate on the City of Los Angeles, you're left with basically nothing. As craptastic and sterile as LA is, it's only redeeming qualities lies in Los Angeles County, not the City itself.

Okay, enough bashing aside. Since you have 7 days to get from SF to SD, and that's about a 700 mile trip, here's what I'd recommend:

Day 1: Stay in SF the first day, visit Fisherman's Wharf and take a day trip (go with a tour company that picks you up, and shuttles you and returns you) into Napa Valley for wine testing.

I can't second this. Fisherman's Wharf is a tourist trap like no other. Walk past it to get an idea, then get the hell out.

I'll go contrary to the other guy above and say; use the majority of your stay in SF. It has the most to offer in all of the cities in California (disclaimer: not fact; opinion). Save your money by holding off renting the car when you arrive at SF - take BART into the city, and use public transportation to go anywhere you'd want to go within the city. You'll thank me - just like NYC, parking is hell + expensive, driving the streets is hell, and it's generally not worth it.

Things you should check out:

Powell/Union Square for shopping

Chinatown (make sure you walk up and down Grant AND Stockton. Grant is the touristy street while on Stockton you get the real thing).

The Embarcedero. Definitely go into the Ferry Building, it's awesome. If you are in town on a Saturday, go there in the morning and check out the farmers' market. Drink some Blue Bottle coffee, eat some lamb hotdogs, and have a good time.

If you don't mind kinda rough neighborhoods, check out the Tenderloin, on and around Laguna. Only go during the daytime though. There, try out some Vietnamese and Thai food. Definitely try a Banh Mi and Vietnamese iced coffee. FTW all around.

Check out Washington Square. Awesome Little Italy up there, still thriving unlike the (tragically) shriveled one in Manhattan. If you're up to eat at a restaurant and like garlic, eat at the Stinking Rose. Thank me later.

And make damn sure you check out the Castro. It's just a couple of blocks, but it's an awesome couple of blocks. Grab a coffee at the Castro Coffee Company and take a stroll up and down the street before hopping back on the subway to continue your tour :)

If you like Dim Sum; Yank Sing on Spear St (at the Embarcedero) is a must-go. But if you want to save some money, check out Dol Ho off Stockton. Not pretty to look at, but full of locals, good dim sum, and the prices are unbelievable.

If you like Guinness, that's the *only* reason you'd bother to go west into the Richmond. There's a bar there named Star and Pough, that serves the best Guinness I've ever tasted outside of Ireland. I'm not exaggerating. It's *that* ****ing good.

There's so much more; awesome restaurants, places to see (yes I'm a foodie :D), too many to list here, but I think I got some of the better/easier to access places.

*EDIT* Oh yeah, and if you got the time, check out Rainbow Grocery. It's the hippest supermarket you'll ever see.

Once you're ready to see the Twin Peaks, Golden Gate Bridge, Muir Woods, etc (yes they are must-go's), grab the rented car and get at it. While all of those places are technically accessible with public transportation, it's more of a hassle (buses!) and if you're going to rent a car anyway, might as well use it. Plenty of parking at those places, too, especially during a non-touristy season like March.

Couldn't agree more. Stay out of Mexico right now if you can. Just go down to SD and have a good time. No need to go to Mexico.

This. Don't be a fool, stay safe. Mexico ain't Canada.
 
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