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Talk and Surf on 4S?
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I would doubt it, as both Verizon and Sprint use CDMA, which doesn't support that. This article mentions the networks, their speeds and hypothesizes that Sprint and Verizon won't have talk and surf capability.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394164,00.asp#fbid=giJNwDKUvl6
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394164,00.asp#fbid=giJNwDKUvl6
Thanks. I didn't know what Sprint used for their cell service... Shame. I was actually looking forward to going to Sprint... I guess I'll have to figure out how much talking and surfing really matters to me vs. what carrier I'm on.
Sprint might support it. Its a common myth that CDMA doesn't support Talk and Surf. Thats just Verizon's network.
Both of you are wrong. If the handset manufacturer implements SVDO, the phone can do it (on both Sprint and Verizon).
That being said, there is no indication that Apple has implemented SVDO in the 4S so your answer is most likely no on both Sprint and Verizon.
I find I use it maybe 2x a month. Probably because i seem to be making fewer and fewer calls and mostly using data and text. Either way, not enough to make a carrier decision based on it.
Can you use WiFi to surf while talking on Sprint or Verizon?
Honestly, it pretty much irrelevant for my personal needs, but I rarely use my data because most of my web needs are while I'm at home where I can easily link to my own WiFi. It would be nice to be able to stream a movie to my tv via WiFi while talking to someone on speaker. Perhaps, I should head over to hackintosh.......
Honestly, it pretty much irrelevant for my personal needs, but I rarely use my data because most of my web needs are while I'm at home where I can easily link to my own WiFi. It would be nice to be able to stream a movie to my tv via WiFi while talking to someone on speaker. Perhaps, I should head over to hackintosh.......
I guess I don't understand where or why people need so much data then. Are you all trying to watch an entire season of a tv show whilst camping? I don't get it. Presumably, even if you're trying to watch movies at work, you could just tap into the onsite WiFi. What are people doing that requires so much data? Email doesn't take much...checking the reviews of a product at the grocery store don't use much, gps, etc. Why not just use WiFi and cuts costs and free up the lines? My needs may very well be totally different than those of most people, but when I'm at work my down time is so short that there's no time to watch anything more than 10 mins long at a time and they'd give me the password if I asked for it -- I do, primarily, outdoor sculpture and object age distressing on properties.
I, also, travel by car a lot and favor roads not on the map and can probably name and number on one hand the times I've been out of service with Sprint in the 13 years I've been using them; it's true, I'd rather have an adventure in these random places with people than watch tv shows on my phone, but really aside from some really isolated areas of Texas and, weirdly enough, very populated areas of MA, I've rarely been even in roaming. And most truckstops have free WiFi. So.....What is it that people are doing that prevents usage of WiFi for data so they don't have to run up these stupid data plan bills? Just curious, really.
I, also, travel by car a lot and favor roads not on the map and can probably name and number on one hand the times I've been out of service with Sprint in the 13 years I've been using them; it's true, I'd rather have an adventure in these random places with people than watch tv shows on my phone, but really aside from some really isolated areas of Texas and, weirdly enough, very populated areas of MA, I've rarely been even in roaming. And most truckstops have free WiFi. So.....What is it that people are doing that prevents usage of WiFi for data so they don't have to run up these stupid data plan bills? Just curious, really.
First of all, I'm not sure where that rant came from, this is a thread about using voice and data at the same time. Not about unlimited data plans.
Secondly, obviously people use their iPhones in different ways than you (including watching streaming video whilst camping), so what's your question?
Because everyone doesn't always have this always available, magical WiFi connection that you seem to.
You've said it, but why can't you seem to understand it.
Reading comprehension, much?
I'll tell the MENSA guys you say, "hi". Perhaps, your inability to cogitate simply stated questions explains your other inability to sensibly use data v. WiFi. Small heads are cute!
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No, I understand not having WiFi CONSTANTLY AVAILABLE. What I don't understand is the need to watch tv shows 24 hours a day. Or whatever it is you're doing with this data usage which no one has bothered to explain to me.
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You said. And you're probably not meant to.
But let's give one last try:
You use your phone for business, you're on a call and need to look up something from your corporate website to answer a customer's question. Talk and Surf made easy.
You're seriously in office situations OFTEN where your only web access is through your personal cell phone? I find this awfully difficult to believe and I'm a one man private contractor. If I'm in a situation where changes are requested while I'm on onsite, because I'm interested in doing the best job I'm capable of, I would never offer a client options based on what I could in find in a 3 minute Google search, ever.
EDIT: I see you refer to working for The Man. Which I guess means that you, personally, are not allowed in the office and so are working on a remote beach without WiFi and that you have no home internet service. Hope it's Eleuthera. And hope you're aged.
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Unlimited data is worth it for the peace of mind of not having to care about what you do with your phone. Who cares how much you use? Eventually smartphones are going to be able to do a lot more and once you've already agreed to only using so much data the telco's have you by the you know what.
Imagine if back in the dial-up days you were given a limit of 10gb a month. Sure, you probably weren't using that much, so you agreed to it. I mean, it's not like there was streaming ability back then the way there is now. Well, the internet really changed since then and now imagine you're paying tiered pricing of $50 for 50gb a month, and getting charged $5 for each gb you go over. Now it's close to the end of your billing cycle and you can't even read this post while listening to HD Pandora because you're worried about using too much data and going over your limit. That's how mobile broadband is going to be in the future. Just cause you don't use more than 2gb now doesn't mean you won't later and when later comes, wouldn't you rather not have to watch what you have to do with your own phone?
The only reason there is tiered pricing on mobile broadband is because the wireless companies saw the broadband companies never put limits on what they offered in order to maximize profits and we the people ended up getting used to unlimited internet so now they can never take it away. The wireless companies are never going to let us get used to unlimited data because then we would throw a fit when they took it away. Right now when they take it away, most people are fine with it because they don't think they'll ever have to worry about how much data they use. They're wrong. Eventually they will.
There's gonna come a time when you can watch, listen, read, hear, see, talk, communicate, everything in existence and you can do it wherever you want and when that time comes it's not going to be fun having to monitor how much data you are using so you don't go over your monthly tiered data plan agreement.
Imagine if back in the dial-up days you were given a limit of 10gb a month. Sure, you probably weren't using that much, so you agreed to it. I mean, it's not like there was streaming ability back then the way there is now. Well, the internet really changed since then and now imagine you're paying tiered pricing of $50 for 50gb a month, and getting charged $5 for each gb you go over. Now it's close to the end of your billing cycle and you can't even read this post while listening to HD Pandora because you're worried about using too much data and going over your limit. That's how mobile broadband is going to be in the future. Just cause you don't use more than 2gb now doesn't mean you won't later and when later comes, wouldn't you rather not have to watch what you have to do with your own phone?
The only reason there is tiered pricing on mobile broadband is because the wireless companies saw the broadband companies never put limits on what they offered in order to maximize profits and we the people ended up getting used to unlimited internet so now they can never take it away. The wireless companies are never going to let us get used to unlimited data because then we would throw a fit when they took it away. Right now when they take it away, most people are fine with it because they don't think they'll ever have to worry about how much data they use. They're wrong. Eventually they will.
There's gonna come a time when you can watch, listen, read, hear, see, talk, communicate, everything in existence and you can do it wherever you want and when that time comes it's not going to be fun having to monitor how much data you are using so you don't go over your monthly tiered data plan agreement.
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And I guess you will ALWAYS use very little of it. I mean, in 10 years when you can watch, listen and read anything whenever and wherever you want, you will still use very little of it. In the future you're probably going to be using the same amount of data that you are now. There is never a time in history where you will use more than 2gb a month. If you do, you can just pay more.
That was wildly elucidating in so far as answering my question as to what the people who feel the need for 24/7 data usage are using it for. Thanks so much for all the relevant information. Kudos to you!!! YOU!!!
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Very strange that high data users are so damned defensive about their usage! You're attacking me because I asked what you're using it for! Hmm...Really, porn 24/7? Is that what you're telling me by not telling me anything?
for you...some of us can get laid in person and, because we're not filled with shame, answer questions in a direct manner. Good luck, guys....[/COLOR]Very strange that high data users are so damned defensive about their usage! You're attacking me because I asked what you're using it for! Hmm...Really, porn 24/7? Is that what you're telling me by not telling me anything?
Don't be an idiot. What someone chooses to do with their unlimited data plan is none of your business. Assuming all they do is look at porn speaks to your maturity level.
Maybe some people don't even use more than a tiered plan, but they want to keep unlimited because they know eventually smartphones are going to take up a lot more data because they will be doing a lot more than they are now and it will all involve communication, downloading, streaming and a lot more data and they don't ever want to have to worry about how much they're using or have to calculate how much they plan to use every month for 2 years and get on a specific plan for that exact amount because there isn't unlimited anymore.
Your immediate problem is highlighted in red above in your edit. You don't. A possible example. You made assumptions it applied to me. You mentioned above something about reading comprehension. Maybe you should edit that post.
Your other issues are all highlighted in red above your edit. When you resolve those "I" isms maybe you will see, but it is unlikely.
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Sprint. That explains it. Get out of your parent's basement and get off your Xbox. You will see wifi is not available everywhere. The world is bigger than your private home network. There is also that problem with the "I"s.
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