Artists are not arguing against any part of what you just offered, they simply would like to make some money during the 3-month trial period from this too. What they are saying is "how about Apple pays the bill during the free trial Apple wants to offer?" That way the economics works well for everyone. In the Apple vs. Spotify threads, we tended to spin hard how Apple looks out for the artists as part of trying to make Spotify look like the villain in those threads. Here's the artists trying to help us see that maybe Apple is not doing all it can for the artists. Instead of hearing them, we're now spinning them as the villains.
The easy fix here is for Apple to pay the bill for the 3 months. If I want to throw a big party in my town and offer free lobster dinners for everyone who attends, I could try to get the fisherman to fish for free, the chefs to prepare it for free, the servers to serve it for free, etc. Or I could still offer a free lobster dinner by paying the "creators" myself and then getting to serve up my free lobster dinner. Everybody's happy.
In this situation, NOT everybody's happy. The most obvious party to just pay for those "lobsters" is the company likely to benefit most from this marketing promotion. Instead, that company is passing the bill to the (mostly) poor fisherman & chefs... under the premise that we'll get the partiers addicted to lobster and the fisherman & chefs can make more money later. It doesn't matter if one of the poorest fisherman (see the thread from a day or two ago) or the richest fisherman (Swift) sounds the alarm, they are all wrong for wanting to be paid because Apple is always right and should get whatever it wants in all things.
When Apple moves into the space that pays us our incomes and wants to do something that would press us to work for a few months for free, we should be so quick to support Apple's wants at our own expense, per some of these very same rationalizations.
Read my post again. You've simply repeated what I said.There's no money to be made by anyone during the 3 month free trial period. That's not a debate. read again.
Except, uber does worse things than that.Imagine if Uber decided they were going to let new customers have their first 3 rides free -- but that the drivers who picked up people in their "free trial" would also not get paid. And if the driver refused to pick up "free trial" riders, they wouldn't be allowed to be uber drivers.
But if you think about it... she wasn't getting anything from Apple Music subscriptions before it was a thing. In 3 months time, she will start getting money from Apple Music subscriptions.
How is it putting people out of jobs when they got 0 before and will get 0 for free months and then something?
People understand that streaming music services are temporary - if they stop paying, they stop being able to listen. Is this really going to hurt CD / iTunes sales? Because if people really support one particular artists they might not stump up the subscription fee just to listen to a handful of artists, and instead they will just buy like they always used to.
I basically don't agree that CD / iTunes sales would be impacted as much as the industry fears.
She's really starting to get under my skin.
You think Taylor is really "speaking up for the small artists"? who are you kidding.
It's all about buying herself a bigger mansion. Why did she pull out of spotify again?
And are overpaid many times more than they are worth. Today's pop artists become millionaires their first year in the business. It's all about the amount Twitter followers and not about their craft.
Wow. Math is a mystery to you, isn't it? Drivers have costs per ride, and they don't get paid in perpetuity for giving a ride. Now, if I could join Uber, get paid nothing for 3 months and then get paid a higher rate than Uber drivers are currently paid, and get that rate for the rest of my life, without needing to drive anymore... sign me up!Imagine if Uber decided they were going to let new customers have their first 3 rides free -- but that the drivers who picked up people in their "free trial" would also not get paid. And if the driver refused to pick up "free trial" riders, they wouldn't be allowed to be uber drivers.
Taylor Swift is a wolf in sheep's clothing. er or a nightmare dress like a daydream.
You think Taylor is really "speaking up for the small artists"? who are you kidding.
It's all about buying herself a bigger mansion. Why did she pull out of spotify again?
If it's not about herself, why did she refuse to include her latest album on apple music?Listen up. She's NOT talking about herself but rather supporting the Indie musicians who are getting a start. She saw through Apple's BS and is calling them out on it. The view of Apple making the world a better place is nothing but "emotional marketing" garbage.
It would be like Apple requiring you to work for them without a paycheck for three months on trial. Would that sound legit? Hell no. It's them that should be footing the bill. After all, it is their infrastructure they're putting the money down and they need to pay the artists, no matter what.
I suspect they gifted Pharrell Williams with a gold Apple Watch that's worth about $20K, since they're supposedly a 'loss leader' but can't afford to pay the artists on Apple Music during the 3 month trial, then there is absolutely something wrong with the picture here.
In mentioning 28% and 72% in my previous post, I was referring to the revenue to be generated after the trial period ends. I'm not sure why you got that so wrong.Read my post again. You've simply repeated what I said.
If it's not about herself, why did she refuse to include her latest album on apple music?
And after Apples woo all these millions of subscribers and get's their 28% share from it, who gets the remaining 72% of the millions or possibly billions generated from this? Listen to yourself for a second.
The truth is that artists needs this Apple music, they need to anything that would drive up music subscription. 3 month free trial is small price to pay if it can deliver the industry from the throes of the Ad supported streaming model. Linda Perry (music writer) only got paid $300 for a song that was played millions of times on Pandora. Ad support music streaming is artist worst nightmare.
YOU listen up sir. This Indie crap is getting ridiculous. So many people on here pretend to be so concerned about Indie artists that they don't even know in order to use it as an attack against Apple. Taylor Swift used that as leverage. Plain and simple. And regardless of all of that WE as Consumers will have to pay if Apple has to pay. But by all means, go ahead and support the "cause" because the cause will cause YOU to be the one required to pay upfront with no Trial.Listen up. She's NOT talking about herself but rather supporting the Indie musicians who are getting a start. She saw through Apple's BS and is calling them out on it. The view of Apple making the world a better place is nothing but "emotional marketing" garbage.
It would be like Apple requiring you to work for them without a paycheck for three months on trial. Would that sound legit? Hell no. It's them that should be footing the bill. After all, it is their infrastructure they're putting the money down and they need to pay the artists, no matter what.
I suspect they gifted Pharrell Williams with a gold Apple Watch that's worth about $20K, since they're supposedly a 'loss leader' but can't afford to pay the artists on Apple Music during the 3 month trial, then there is absolutely something wrong with the picture here.