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Teachers reading texts on students' phones
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Uh... your tax dollars also go into roads, doesn't mean you can do whatever you want on the roads. Countries with public health care system can't do whatever they want in the hospitals just because their tax money went towards it. Your tax money goes into a lot of things, like defense, fire + police departments, social security etc. You don't actually own the army or any of those departments and get to set the rules for them.
Tax money is technically government's money, not yours anymore. Therefore they're the ones who owns the schools, and they get to set the rules.
Yes. Federal, state, county, and occasionally city, dollars go towards schools.
The most common form of school funding is property taxes, which is how the famous San Antonio School Board vs Rodriguez (1973) came to be decided (just some light reading for you there
). Not to take this off topic, but you did ask and so I thought a thorough response was in order.
In fact, any citizen within the jurisdiction of a given school board can help shape board policy. Normally, however, this means that you must be 18 years old first, as that's when you gain suffrage.
Parents (as voters and participants), in the US at least, have a great deal of power over school boards. If even a plurality of parents opposes a given board action, the likelihood of its success is low. If your parents would like you to have phones in school (but not on), the chances are that sooner rather than later the board will have to amend its policy.
That is outrageous.
Confiscating a phone is one thing but reading the texts is another.
For all they know, it could be a text from a relative saying that a relative has died, or so on. The school has no right to know that information.
Pretty messed up.
My School says you aren't allowed to have phones (and iPods, or MP3 players) on the site, but if you're caught with it, they just say "put it away". That's how it should be.
They back-up the whole "No cell phones on site" thing with "You can make a call from the general office" but sometimes you don't WANT to have a personal phone call within ears of teachers, or it might not be something urgent; just something like "Can you pick me up from school today rather than me catching the bus?", when you don't even know if the person you're talking to is going to pick up.
I believe Cell Phones should be allowed on school premises as long as they aren't used in lessons. And if they are, they should be taken to the front of the classroom and given back at the end of the lesson, if anything.
Some teachers are just horrible and twisted.
Confiscating a phone is one thing but reading the texts is another.
For all they know, it could be a text from a relative saying that a relative has died, or so on. The school has no right to know that information.
Pretty messed up.
My School says you aren't allowed to have phones (and iPods, or MP3 players) on the site, but if you're caught with it, they just say "put it away". That's how it should be.
They back-up the whole "No cell phones on site" thing with "You can make a call from the general office" but sometimes you don't WANT to have a personal phone call within ears of teachers, or it might not be something urgent; just something like "Can you pick me up from school today rather than me catching the bus?", when you don't even know if the person you're talking to is going to pick up.
I believe Cell Phones should be allowed on school premises as long as they aren't used in lessons. And if they are, they should be taken to the front of the classroom and given back at the end of the lesson, if anything.
Some teachers are just horrible and twisted.
I respect you opinion but your wrong. Maybe it is just your generation but I see no need to have a phone in any classroom... EVER.
So what if a relative dies, what are you going to do about it at that point?... bring them back to life? I'm not trying to make light of the situation but really. I did not get a cell phone until this past October and i managed to survive without carrying one around. My parents were always able to get a hold of me when need be by CALLING THE SCHOOL OFFICE. I got the message within 10 mins and there was no harm done.
I don't know but it seems to me that communication between parent and child may be falling apart a little bit. If i had ever tried to call my mom or dad in the middle of the day and ask them to pick me up from school instead of riding the bus home they would have flat said no, even if they were home and done with work for the day. Did i hate them for it at the time; maybe a little, but i got over it. And now that i look back at it they were right to say no. Had i asked in the morning before i left for school they might have said yes, but still they usually worked until after school had gotten out for the day, so I usually got home before them anyway.
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That is correct, unless you give them permission to or the cop thinks that something might be on there that is relevant.
But we are not talking about cops. When in high school or even college, you "sign your rights away" when you are there on the premises. The teachers, cops, and school staff have the right to do a search if they deem it necessary. My friend recently got his car towed here at OSU while it was on campus and they broke into it to get the pass that was invalid. They could have waited for him to show up and open the door for them but they broke in anyway.
It seems that the younger kids that keep saying this is a violation of there privacy don't understand that they agree to these rules when they get to school and that it is in there handbook that the school staff has the right to do this stuff.
I think everyone -- including me -- tends to be a little startled upon hearing that a teacher has more authority over the matter than an officer of the law, but it retrospect, it's understandable. No one whined about privacy when the teacher snatched (and often read aloud) the *paper* note you passed a friend in class. With a cell, it's the same thing regardless of the medium used to pass the note.
That being said, I still don't think they have the right to dig into an electronic device purchased by you or your family (without your spoken/written permission), and frequently used (as the technology advances) to store very personal information. Not just phone numbers, ILuvUs and hate mail. It can present a serious danger to the carrier, and anyone stored/listed on it. It's not a simple piece of paper.
Now, that being said
, I don't think cell phones belong in the classroom, period. It's the only way to resolve this; unless they permit teachers to use cell scramblers in the classroom.just my $.02
Now, that being said
just my $.02
I agree with everything you said there. I had a teacher in high school that installed cell scramblers in his room. Then we had a girl ask the teacher why her phone would not work, needless to say she got in trouble for attempting to use her phone and it was taken for the rest of the day.
Teachers and school administrators operate in loco parentis, giving them expanded powers whereby courts have consistently ruled that the interest in maintaining the integrity of the educational process supersedes many Constitutional protections.
There is no clear legal answer to the specific question whether a teacher may read text messages off a cell phone. To the best of my limited knowledge the general policy has not been tested in court, and that would be the only way to establish something definitive.
Anyone taking the schools' side in such a case would obviously argue that there is a legitimate educational interest in determining whether another student was the correspondent, and thus responsible for the disruption, or whether the contents of the message itself serve to compromise the school's mandate.
Instances where schools have gotten into trouble for reading text messages have generally been cases where the educational impact very arguably did not justify the actions taken, such as confiscating cell phones to determine which students had attended an off-campus party. Challenging searches on such grounds, instead of challenging the general policy of reading text messages, seems to indicate a de facto acceptance that the usual latitude offered in the name of school discipline does not evaporate just because the notes being passed are digital instead of paper.
If you are a high school student, the upshot of all this is that the teacher cannot just take your phone away and start thumbing through its contents on a whim, but if you get caught texting in violation of school rules, don't go looking for any legal protection when the teacher reads what you were texting. Your screw-up in getting caught breaking school rules generally gives them the justification, and nobody is rushing into courtrooms to change that position on your behalf.
There is no clear legal answer to the specific question whether a teacher may read text messages off a cell phone. To the best of my limited knowledge the general policy has not been tested in court, and that would be the only way to establish something definitive.
Anyone taking the schools' side in such a case would obviously argue that there is a legitimate educational interest in determining whether another student was the correspondent, and thus responsible for the disruption, or whether the contents of the message itself serve to compromise the school's mandate.
Instances where schools have gotten into trouble for reading text messages have generally been cases where the educational impact very arguably did not justify the actions taken, such as confiscating cell phones to determine which students had attended an off-campus party. Challenging searches on such grounds, instead of challenging the general policy of reading text messages, seems to indicate a de facto acceptance that the usual latitude offered in the name of school discipline does not evaporate just because the notes being passed are digital instead of paper.
If you are a high school student, the upshot of all this is that the teacher cannot just take your phone away and start thumbing through its contents on a whim, but if you get caught texting in violation of school rules, don't go looking for any legal protection when the teacher reads what you were texting. Your screw-up in getting caught breaking school rules generally gives them the justification, and nobody is rushing into courtrooms to change that position on your behalf.
No. Not in the classroom. I agree there. The Classroom is for learning.
MP3 players on the other hand... well I feel they encourage individual learning, which helps stop some distractions (such as kids showing off to other kids, talking, etc.)
But phones, no. Not unless someone is using the MP3 player that is built into their phone.
However, I agree that there should be limitations on these things. If a teacher is talking, you should take your headphones out... but if you're doing coursework or individual study (working through a text book, or whatever) then you should be allowed to listen to music on your iPod, or music device, to help you get on with the work. It works for some people; me included.
On the topic of phones, again, there isn't a reason why a child should be texting in lesson. It can wait until an appropriate break. Not actually during the lesson.
Well that would explain your bias opinion towards children not having them in school with them. You haven't been through school life with one, and so you do not see the benefits of having one in school with you. I take my cell phone to school with me every day and it can be very useful at times.
For example, if I have an extra-curricular activity after school that I cropped up at the last minute, or ran over the time that it was meant to be finishing at (it happens a lot, trust me), I can easily ring my parents right then and there and ask them if I can stay for another half hour, hour, two hours, etc. Or if my bus was late (which is also likely). Cell phones are very useful to help both parent and child know what's going on.
While that works, it can be embarrassing, or it can take the receptionists away from their work to go and find you in some far away building in the school to give you a message that may not be that important. Of course, it's important for you but compared to what the receptionist could have been doing in that time, it may not be.
Plus there's the embarrassment of having to go and get the message read to you, and then classmates asking why you had to go and see the person who was presenting you the message.
Cell phones cut out the middle man and are more discreet.
Surely it's increasing. If parents and children can contact each other almost whenever, wherever and arrange things, it must be getting better. It's now possible to contact a child wherever they are to tell them about anything that could have cropped up and spoilt any plans.
"Sorry son, I can't pick you up today because work called and I need to go in before you finish school. You'll have to catch the bus today."
While this is the case for some people, it varies depending on the parent.
I still think Cell Phones are an asset to Child+Parent communication in schools, and (unlike my school), you should be allowed to take them with you and use them outside of lessons. Inside of lessons they should be switched off or put on silent and left in a pocket. I often use my phone to see what time it is. I press one button and I get the time. This is handy when I'm in a room with no clock because sometimes I have to go to guitar lessons halfway through a lesson. I know you could say "Get a watch" but I feel restricted with things around my wrist. It's uncomfortable, and it's one more thing to remember.
At the end of the day, cell phones are generally an asset. It's only when they disrupt lessons that they are a problem, and even then a sensible teacher could just say "Put it away" and continue.
well, lots of opinions expressed here, and I'm sure it's all been said, but I thought I'd weigh in on the issue too. I'm no legal scholar, but I am a high school teacher, so here it goes:
Because schools and teachers have the responsibility of creating a safe, secure, and structured learning environment, the school has certain rights that accompany that responsibility. If the school has an established policy forbidding the use of cell phones on school grounds, then the teacher is justified in confiscating it AND in looking through the text messages for any potentially damaging or dangerous information. (how is this different than confiscating a notebook that students have been passing back and forth and looking at the notes they wrote each other in it?) ESPECIALLY if there is any suspicion of inappropriate message content.
I don't know about any other states, but my state has a mandated law for schools and teachers to protect students against "cyber-bullying" which includes any digital communication that occurs on or off campus. checking a confiscated cell phone's messages is one way for us to meet this mandated responsibility. (just as we can check through any email you access at school). When you are on school grounds, the rules are different. privacy is forfeit in lieu of the greater public safety.
Finally, as for parents contacting students via cell-phone, this is absolutely unnecessary. Parents do not need to be disrupting class for the mundane or even the exceptional. Call the office. Every classroom has a telephone capable of contacting the outside, or at least communicating with the office. messages can be transfered from the office to the room in a matter of seconds. (most schools allow the use of cell phones during after-school events, so if kids need to arrange a ride after ballgames, etc...)
that' just my 2 cents, as I understand the rules and my role as a teacher, guardian, mandated reporter, en loco parentis
Because schools and teachers have the responsibility of creating a safe, secure, and structured learning environment, the school has certain rights that accompany that responsibility. If the school has an established policy forbidding the use of cell phones on school grounds, then the teacher is justified in confiscating it AND in looking through the text messages for any potentially damaging or dangerous information. (how is this different than confiscating a notebook that students have been passing back and forth and looking at the notes they wrote each other in it?) ESPECIALLY if there is any suspicion of inappropriate message content.
I don't know about any other states, but my state has a mandated law for schools and teachers to protect students against "cyber-bullying" which includes any digital communication that occurs on or off campus. checking a confiscated cell phone's messages is one way for us to meet this mandated responsibility. (just as we can check through any email you access at school). When you are on school grounds, the rules are different. privacy is forfeit in lieu of the greater public safety.
Finally, as for parents contacting students via cell-phone, this is absolutely unnecessary. Parents do not need to be disrupting class for the mundane or even the exceptional. Call the office. Every classroom has a telephone capable of contacting the outside, or at least communicating with the office. messages can be transfered from the office to the room in a matter of seconds. (most schools allow the use of cell phones during after-school events, so if kids need to arrange a ride after ballgames, etc...)
that' just my 2 cents, as I understand the rules and my role as a teacher, guardian, mandated reporter, en loco parentis
I don't get the phone thing. I work for a school district, and I am constantly catching kids walking around the halls on their phones. This seems to be especially so when they are supposed to be in class. As for an emergency, if a person is getting a call in class, even if its an emergency it would 1. Violate the "phone off" rule, and 2. disrupt everybody around the person. And if it is an emergency, then the kid has to go to the office anyway, so (s)he can leave.
If this is the case why can't mom call the office, they send someone down to get the kid, and when mom arrives, let her tell the child in a private office?
Scenario 1. Little Johnny is in class with his phone on, "just in case". It rings, disrupting class. Johnny answers. Teacher protests. Johnny says, "It's my mom, and it's an emergency!" Teacher says, " Fine! In the hall!" Before he gets to the door, he finds out his dog Bif died, strangling on a biscuit. Little Johnny screams, "NOOOOOOOO!" and bursts into tears, further disrupting the education of his peers. He then walks up to the office (without a pass, because he wandered off in a grief-driven daze). He arrives at the office blubbering and totally inconsolable. The secretaries are concerned and worried about him, but he is so upset he can't tell them what is wrong. Is he hurt? Sick? They call the nurse over. She can't find anything wrong. They set him the nurses office where is it private, and the nurse can keep an eye on him. While one secretary looks up what class Johnny is supposed to be in (so the teacher can be notified where the Johnny wandered off to), another is calling his mother to come and pick him up, because he is totally distraught, and they are unable to calm him down.
After finally getting in touch with mom, (she wasn't at home), and repeated calls to her cell (to be called only in an emergency), the secretary finally got through to mom, who was at the local Starbucks, where she wasn't getting a signal.
Mom explains that their dog died, and was going to pick her son so they can go get it cremated, right after she stopped and got a latte for her son, because she knew he was close to the dog, thought it would help him feel better.
Scenario 2. Secretary goes to class, tells Johnny he needs to go to the office. Johnny quietly gathers his belongings, and follows her out. The secretary explains to him that his mother is on the way to the school and needs to see him. Johnny is worried. A short time later, his Mom shows up with a latte. The secretary offers them a private room where they can talk. Mom explains that Bif, the dog has died, choking on a biscuit. They share a tear together, the walk out, letting the secretary know he will be gone for the rest of the day, due to a personal crisis. The secretary let Mom know that attendance etc, will be taken care of for the day. Johnny gratefully thanks them and tells them goodbye, as he leaves to take Bif on one last ride to the vets.
The End
Ok, I'm done I don't feel like writing any more. I'm sure you get how I feel about phones in school.
If this is the case why can't mom call the office, they send someone down to get the kid, and when mom arrives, let her tell the child in a private office?
Scenario 1. Little Johnny is in class with his phone on, "just in case". It rings, disrupting class. Johnny answers. Teacher protests. Johnny says, "It's my mom, and it's an emergency!" Teacher says, " Fine! In the hall!" Before he gets to the door, he finds out his dog Bif died, strangling on a biscuit. Little Johnny screams, "NOOOOOOOO!" and bursts into tears, further disrupting the education of his peers. He then walks up to the office (without a pass, because he wandered off in a grief-driven daze). He arrives at the office blubbering and totally inconsolable. The secretaries are concerned and worried about him, but he is so upset he can't tell them what is wrong. Is he hurt? Sick? They call the nurse over. She can't find anything wrong. They set him the nurses office where is it private, and the nurse can keep an eye on him. While one secretary looks up what class Johnny is supposed to be in (so the teacher can be notified where the Johnny wandered off to), another is calling his mother to come and pick him up, because he is totally distraught, and they are unable to calm him down.
After finally getting in touch with mom, (she wasn't at home), and repeated calls to her cell (to be called only in an emergency), the secretary finally got through to mom, who was at the local Starbucks, where she wasn't getting a signal.
Mom explains that their dog died, and was going to pick her son so they can go get it cremated, right after she stopped and got a latte for her son, because she knew he was close to the dog, thought it would help him feel better.
Scenario 2. Secretary goes to class, tells Johnny he needs to go to the office. Johnny quietly gathers his belongings, and follows her out. The secretary explains to him that his mother is on the way to the school and needs to see him. Johnny is worried. A short time later, his Mom shows up with a latte. The secretary offers them a private room where they can talk. Mom explains that Bif, the dog has died, choking on a biscuit. They share a tear together, the walk out, letting the secretary know he will be gone for the rest of the day, due to a personal crisis. The secretary let Mom know that attendance etc, will be taken care of for the day. Johnny gratefully thanks them and tells them goodbye, as he leaves to take Bif on one last ride to the vets.
The End
Ok, I'm done
I don't feel like writing any more. I'm sure you get how I feel about phones in school.
I will forfit to your reasoning here. I do find that listening to music to drown out background noise does help me. For some it is more of a distraction then the actaul noise in the classroom but to each his own.
Totally agree with this
I suppose my opinion may be a little bias but what it really comes right down to is does the student really NEED the phone while on school is in session? As far as i am concerned there is no need for a student to have there phone on them while school is in session. My opinion on this matter is no and no one will ever convince me otherwise
If your embarrassed because this happens then you have bigger problems. Again, in school i was never the kind of kid that gave a rats as what other thought about me. As for the receptionist argument, that barely floats. There whole existence and purpose for being is for moments like that. I'm not trying to insult any receptionists out there, but that has to be one of the things they expect to do when they take the job, they answer phones for gods sake.
Increasing sure, but I am talking about face to face talking. My family almost always sat down and ate dinner together and talk about our day. Then we usually figured out what each person had going on for the next day and planned from there. A little planning ahead goes a long way. I understand that there are instances were cell phones definitely come in handy. And your example is again one that could have been given to the office to be passed along. I know i have gotten that type of call before and i never needed a cell phone for it.
The bolded stuff is wrong in my opinion. Again, i feel that child+parent communication should go through the office (as that is what it is there for) when a child is on school grounds and school is in session.
Totally agree with everything you said. I have two friends that are currently getting there masters for teaching and both of there schools allow for them to take phones away if they find them out in the classroom.
That sucks. I'd like to see them try to break into my car without breaking any glass. I bet they couldn't do it. In all honestly though, as long as you are on school property they can search you, your backpack, your locker, your car, and probably your phone.
Who ever asked the tax question, Fed. Gov gives public schools money unless the school refuses to accept the Fed. Gov mandates. For example, Chesire (CT) (Public) High School refuses No Child Left Behind therefore they do not get federal money. Apparently they didn't get much from the feds.
This is my advice. Don't let teachers see your cell phones and you'll be fine. Don't have them interrupt classes frequently and then teachers will shrug it off if it does happen. Cell phones really have nothing to do with the educational process. They are great for quick communication though. The school decides what's allowed and what's not. You just have to follow the rules.
If a teacher confiscates your cell phone TAKE OUT THE BATTERY
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Yesterday I was on my cell phone 20 minutes before school started because I had to tell my mom something. A teacher was walking down the hall way and demanded I give her my cell phone.
I said "Are we not allowed to use cell phones before school?" and she said "no!". One of the secretaries walked out of the office, saw the conversation and took the side of the teacher. I then posed the questions "...But we are allowed to use them after school? How many kids do you see walking around on their cell phone the minute school ends, and I am here 20 minutes before school, when no one is here, and I can't use it?" They didn't think of that. Meanwhile my mother is still on the phone, I hand the phone to the teacher and my mom b****ed at her and the teacher then gave me my phone back. I never had the teacher but my mom doesn't like her because she dresses like a... whore. Yell at me for talking on my cell phone before school? Look at your inappropriate (probably dress code breaking) attire!
I'm don't study law or intend to at all, but from what I know from intro courses in U.S. law, the school definitely has the right to confiscate the phone if it breaks a rule or policy. In the first case posted by OP, the student was in the cafeteria when the teacher took the phone, the teacher then proceeded to read her text messages. Everyone's arguments have much substance but they pertain to in class situations. According to the law, a teacher can only read through your messages if they believe it to contain probable cause to danger or anything serious to that extent. If you're just sitting in the cafeteria texting a friend, I don't believe a teacher can just take your phone and start skimming through your messages unless you're suspicious or a known trouble-maker.
Classic Usa
classic americanism!
1. if the teacher hasnt got enough respect from the kids to not use there foney during lessons then they shouldn't be teaching!
2. sometimes I maby late for a lesson and I normaly send the teacher or my friends a quick text to let them no so the teacher can start,
3. the technicians are only contactable by fone, if we need them its how we have to contact them,
4. I'm classed as a senior student, we help kids younger than us that are having issues, the school calls us direct if were needid,
5.I'm quite regularly using my iPhone in our lessons due to the web, and the fact its not controlled like our school system, we need to access stuff that quite rightly shouldn't be able for younger kids, for instance in media we need to watch youtube clips etc,
6. there good for communication , i can find were my friends are visa versa,
and there is absolutly no right or justification for a teacher to go thru a fone, do they open our post, read our emails tapp our calls?? NO!! AMERICA stop treating your people like theyre the bad ones!!!
classic americanism!
1. if the teacher hasnt got enough respect from the kids to not use there foney during lessons then they shouldn't be teaching!
2. sometimes I maby late for a lesson and I normaly send the teacher or my friends a quick text to let them no so the teacher can start,
3. the technicians are only contactable by fone, if we need them its how we have to contact them,
4. I'm classed as a senior student, we help kids younger than us that are having issues, the school calls us direct if were needid,
5.I'm quite regularly using my iPhone in our lessons due to the web, and the fact its not controlled like our school system, we need to access stuff that quite rightly shouldn't be able for younger kids, for instance in media we need to watch youtube clips etc,
6. there good for communication , i can find were my friends are visa versa,
and there is absolutly no right or justification for a teacher to go thru a fone, do they open our post, read our emails tapp our calls?? NO!! AMERICA stop treating your people like theyre the bad ones!!!
I think you should have put the phone away and studied a little more in school. I'm just saying...
In High School I personally didn't have a cell phone that I took every day, from time to time if I was doing something after school I would carry a phone with me but never did I text or bring it out during the day and it stayed on vibrate. I didn't have text messages on that phone either since my parents didn't pay for the service, so I never had to deal with this kind of situation and I don't recall teachers ever reading the text messages of students phones as generally when students were caught texting in class the teacher asked the student to put the phone away. Phones technically were not allowed to be used during lunch at my school but students did and never really got into trouble. Now in college I don't really see many problems expect for a phone going off sometime during a lecture and a student leaving the class to answer the phone. Texting happens sometimes under the tables and would only be a problem during a test so the instructors rarely say anything.
Now as for the the privacy issue. I am sure they (teachers/administrators) can and will get away with reading texts in grade school classrooms; however, obviously it shouldn't be done. The best advice is to keep the phone up unless you are prepared to attempt to the fight the system (and probably lose). Believe me, in High School I was a rebel myself and I don't believe I won a single fight with school administrators. Schools will get away with anything under the cause that they are helping keep things in line for the other students. What that meant at my school was to conform to the standards and shut up and don't disagree when the biology teacher preaches or when there is religious propaganda in the classrooms (this was a public school). I am sure if I did text and one of my texts mentioned atheism I would have been kicked out.
Now as for the the privacy issue. I am sure they (teachers/administrators) can and will get away with reading texts in grade school classrooms; however, obviously it shouldn't be done. The best advice is to keep the phone up unless you are prepared to attempt to the fight the system (and probably lose). Believe me, in High School I was a rebel myself and I don't believe I won a single fight with school administrators. Schools will get away with anything under the cause that they are helping keep things in line for the other students. What that meant at my school was to conform to the standards and shut up and don't disagree when the biology teacher preaches or when there is religious propaganda in the classrooms (this was a public school). I am sure if I did text and one of my texts mentioned atheism I would have been kicked out.
I dont See How They Could Keep Your phone....i mean wouldnt be that considered Theft.
Ohh wow. Thats Funny
I garentee they have things...software that can break into your phone...password or not.....Appl Software is a little harder to get into tho soo..
Ohh wow. Thats Funny
I garentee they have things...software that can break into your phone...password or not.....Appl Software is a little harder to get into tho soo..
having just watched some Board of Education meetings on this subject on the TV, school districts have the right to ban certain things from school property.
Traditionally, anything that was electronic was frowned upon. (obviously this included walk-mans and CD players). There really was never a ban on these items because it was pretty simple...put them away and thats that. It would be quite hard to sneak in some CD player listening during class (they also didnt have cordless headphones and such mind you).
Then the choclate bar shaped phones began around 2001-2002. Texting was rare and minutes were expensive so kids had the phones but they actually didnt really use them much during school. More so for calling for rides after school.
Within the last 5-7 years, the use of phones and texting, and internet surfing has exploded and then add to it all sorts of ipods etc...it got out of hand and kids were using them during class, in the hallways, etc.
Hence why schools are now leaning towards banning "any electronic device".
I laugh when they say this because that technically means NO LAPTOPS. I guess they still want high schoolers to use paper and pens.
school districts have a right to confiscate the phone and some districts go so far as to keep phones for a week or more after the fact. most districts use the policy if we see it at all...its ours...doesnt matter if its on or off. Most schools do allow them on property though, just put in a locker or left in bookbag.
most policies do not specify if teachers can go through the phones and I doubt any policies would ever include that into the wording.
from a legal standpoint...it would be tough to get anywhere because you violated a code by using the phone. Sort of like complaining that someone messed with your drugs and now you are stuck out of luck and upset. Too bad
Traditionally, anything that was electronic was frowned upon. (obviously this included walk-mans and CD players). There really was never a ban on these items because it was pretty simple...put them away and thats that. It would be quite hard to sneak in some CD player listening during class (they also didnt have cordless headphones and such mind you).
Then the choclate bar shaped phones began around 2001-2002. Texting was rare and minutes were expensive so kids had the phones but they actually didnt really use them much during school. More so for calling for rides after school.
Within the last 5-7 years, the use of phones and texting, and internet surfing has exploded and then add to it all sorts of ipods etc...it got out of hand and kids were using them during class, in the hallways, etc.
Hence why schools are now leaning towards banning "any electronic device".
I laugh when they say this because that technically means NO LAPTOPS. I guess they still want high schoolers to use paper and pens.
school districts have a right to confiscate the phone and some districts go so far as to keep phones for a week or more after the fact. most districts use the policy if we see it at all...its ours...doesnt matter if its on or off. Most schools do allow them on property though, just put in a locker or left in bookbag.
most policies do not specify if teachers can go through the phones and I doubt any policies would ever include that into the wording.
from a legal standpoint...it would be tough to get anywhere because you violated a code by using the phone. Sort of like complaining that someone messed with your drugs and now you are stuck out of luck and upset. Too bad
I dont See How They Could Keep Your phone....i mean wouldnt be that considered Theft.
New account, revieving a thread 2 years old.
If people would take a look above this post you would see the date is May 13, 2008
damned if you search and post in an existing thread and damned if you start a new one