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Teardown of New 21.5-inch iMac Reveals Glued Down LCD and Dual Microphones
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You're missing the point. People won't care what Apple charges if the RAM is accessible. They can then make the choice to build to order, (and pay Apple prices if they choose), or upgrade when the necessity or fancy takes them.
A lot of manufacturers nowadays are making things proprietary in many industries and this is not consumer centric. We have bodies saying consumer is king and then manufacturers doing this.
I have no problem with that but I believe that governments should impose a levy on companies that make goods in this manner, and those that use non compostible/recycleabe/biodegradeable packaging etc etc.....Mind you the big companies will find a clever way around it.
There is no 3 TB option in the 21.5" iMac. It's only available in the 27" versions, which use 3.5" 7200 rpm hard drives.
Absolutely, it's amazing that a TWO years old computer is still adequate...
... after couple upgrades. ;-P Of course, we should get at least five years even without upgrading, but I did the same thing for my late 2009 mini - upgraded RAM from 2GB to 8GB and after the old hard disk died, replaced it with SSD. It's still a VERY capable machine. I'd love to upgrade to a new 27" iMac, but I just don't see any need. At some point I'll donate my mini and it'll probably be used for 6-8 more years. That's something I like about Apple computers - they have a long life - first, second and third hand.
Since when were Macs bought by people who like to upgrade their comps? Sure RAM and HDD upgrades are the most basic upgrades, but those are possible on most Macs including the new 27-inch iMac. Upgrading (significantly) is done by reselling your outdated model and replacing it with the most current one. At least that's what many people do.
THe Real World
Yes i am a sceptic
So if I put an extra stick of Ram and larger Hard Drive in the back, it is assembled in the US?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Its a start though: confused:
Yes i am a sceptic
So if I put an extra stick of Ram and larger Hard Drive in the back, it is assembled in the US?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Its a start though: confused:
I still don't see the point in the stupid new iMac. Big deal, it's thinner....because everyone NEEDED a thinner DESKTOP machine?!
It's got to the point where Apple are happy to cripple their products just to boast how thin they are....who the hell gives a rats ass if their desktop computer is an extra few mm thinner?!
It's got to the point where Apple are happy to cripple their products just to boast how thin they are....who the hell gives a rats ass if their desktop computer is an extra few mm thinner?!
This is one of the reasons I didn't get a Mini last month. Personally I wouldn't get the Cinema Display if I was getting a Mini, the whole point is to save a few dollars, so get another brand at a much cheaper price. I'd only get the Apple LCD if I had the money for a Mac Pro.
Good point. But I still think I'm gonna get a 27" iMac....cause even after 5 yrs of productive use...I'll be able to use it as a Cinema Display with future computers.
I placed my order Saturday, I'll be lucky to see it before the Christmas holidays.
27" i7, 680MX, Fusion, should be quite a step up from my current G5 Tower.
Agree entirely. I am starting to get a bit fed up with Apple recently. Can't help feel new models of their products and based more on aesthetics than practicality now.
I see future versions of Apple computers being completely dunked in glue after assembly and all wrapped up like a christmas gift with security tape labels that say "Breaking seal voids warranty".
Hard to believe this is the same company that used to brag about how easy it was to upgrade memory and hard drives on their Mac Pro (and even Imac) models. Now they dictate to us what we are supposed to want...not what we are asking for.
Hard to believe this is the same company that used to brag about how easy it was to upgrade memory and hard drives on their Mac Pro (and even Imac) models. Now they dictate to us what we are supposed to want...not what we are asking for.
Did you not read my post? I said 90% of customers would not need to upgrade their pc's, because by the time they actually need any extra speed for the small amount of stuff they do with it, the hardware would be close to failing anyway and they would need an entirely new computer. Literally the only people I can think of who upgraded their computers were one or two of my friends who were really computer savvy. Literally everyone else was content with leaving their pc as it was and just getting a new one 6 or 7 years later.
The cinema display is one of the worst possible values for your uses. Look at NEC instead. It's about the same price, and they're better.
That's because most Apple products aside from the Mac Pro are notebooks or all-in-ones so your upgrade options are limited.
As for the Mac Pro, Apple sells graphics card upgrades in their online store.
Yep, there's still a bit of bulk in the middle, but like I say, the stand and the width are the biggest factors on the size so it doesn't really matter how thin the machine is in reality; it doesn't even really matter how heavy the machine is as if you're frequently picking up and carrying around an iMac then something's not right
I know that a big hook on Apple machines is style and simplicity, but there's a point at which you're slimming something down for no real benefit. Even given the size though I still can't believe it would have been beyond Apple's capabilities to find a different way of magnetising the display and fitting an openable hatch for the RAM.
It's not just about the users; the easier a machine is to open up the easier (and faster) it is to repair if something goes wrong, and the greener the machine is as it becomes easier to recycle. If you have to have specialised equipment for heating glue then that's an unnecessary complication that adds time and cost. I can understand compromise on laptops as weight and size are important factors for them, but on a desktop? There's no excuse as I doubt anyone can honestly say that the new iMacs would have made them projectile vomit in disgust if they'd been an extra mm thick.
There's a difference between chopping and changing everything and being able to access to simple and commonly upgraded components like RAM. A little door or angled slot big enough to get at the RAM means that when the Applecare runs out and the machine is starting to feel more sluggish, a user can still go out, buy some RAM, pop it in their machine and continue getting the most out of it. Simplicity is only so much of a comfort when it isn't actually hindering the experience instead of benefiting it.
And like I say; I don't expect an end user to want to lift their screen out (except to get at the RAM, thanks to the lack of that door), but the benefits to the end user are faster and easier repairs if they're needed (even if it's not them doing it) and the knowledge that their power efficient machine is also easily recyclable. And I'm pretty sure there are a whole load of apple engineers who are already dreading their first failed iMac now that disassembly is more difficult than ever.
Nice. I hope you get it in time for Christmas! I'm gonna order mine soon. Still deciding over the exact configuration. But I can't wait. Enjoy!
How does this advice help people that want to use OS X?
I can't believe all of the complaining about the complainers in this thread. If you don't want to read the complaints, then switch to another thread. It's your time, so go browse some other topic instead of complaining that you are being forced to read complaints.
1993, Apple Colour Classic... Upgradeable RAM via an easily removed logic board, and had a PDS slot.
1997, Apple PowerMac 5500... Upgradeable RAM via a similar slot mounted logic board. Also had a PCI slot.
Note as well in the pic above, Apple's first LCD all-in-one - the TAM - which had a removable back cover, giving access to upgrade the RAM, HDD, CommII and PCI slots...
Just because it's an all in one design does NOT mean it needs to lack upgradeability...
Because it's ridiculously thin, is why there is no upgradeability... I don't care about the lost optical drive... but not giving user upgradeable RAM or HDD options on a desktop machine is an insult to any Mac user with a modicum of knowledge...
I don't know where the silly notion of "All In One" meaning "no serviceability" came from.
www.hp.com/canada/campaigns/workstations/z1_features.html
HP seems to have no problems designing very serviceable AIOs.
Anyway, serviceability is not about user upgrades, as others are quick to say "no one upgrades their own computers", it's also about actual service, repairs and replacement of parts. If the computer is harder to get in or requires special tools, than that limits your repair options to the vendor itself, instead of maybe using that indie you've always been using and that's much cheaper and closer to your home than Apple could be.
A lot of folks are missing the big picture here, almost in a rabid bid to defend Apple's bottom line rather than their own consumer rights. We're becoming more and more a throwaway society.
IF you have any ideas, suggestions, complaints, tell Apple directly.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
It's the way you can submit what you want and maybe they'll do it.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
It's the way you can submit what you want and maybe they'll do it.
Switch from OS X then. Apple has shown what direction they are going in and, if it is not the direction that you want to go, move on to something else. If Apple is causing you that much angst that you are always complaining about them, maybe you should move away from OS X to another platform. Computers are just a tool.
As far as the thread and article, most people are reading it because they are considering a new iMac and were interested in the tear down. Like me, I'm sure they were surprised by all the useless complaining. If you really want to do something about it, let your wallet do your talking and don't purchase from Apple. Also, be sure to let Apple know in an email (not as an anonymous poster in a forum).