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i am waiting for the new thunderbolt displays with this thinness...
any chance of 21.5" display?
i am waiting for the new thunderbolt displays with this thinness...
any chance of 21.5" display?
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Teardown of New 21.5-inch iMac Reveals Glued Down LCD and Dual Microphones
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Haha, because all the PC vendors are pushing all in ones... and thunderbolt...
I don't know why you think I'm upset. You talk like someone who only follows apple products.
If apple offered a midrange tower iMac sales would plummet.
Several repair videos showed the logic board being removed - the third image you posted showed the ram but I wonder how you release it with such little access?
I did in fact say, "almost" every decision Apple makes other companies follow suit and it is true. Also what's true is every PC company has an AIO that they are trying to push hard to grab iMac sales. Heck, Sony doesn't even make tower PC's anymore, all they have are AIO's and laptops.
So you're saying I'm wrong in regards to tablets going viral after the iPad's success? So are you saying I'm wrong that Ultrabooks went viral after the Macbook Air's success? So are saying that other companies didn't remove the floppy drive after the success of the first iMac not having one?
So are you saying that I'm wrong that PC companies aren't beginning to make laptops without optical drives?
would you pay for entire display assembly if you accidentally crack ur front screen glass?
not to mention other common failures in iMac (if you familiar with iMac, u understand what i mean)
I don't disagree essentially, but bear in mind that we are amidst a worldwide financial crises. Very few people even in the west, let alone the millions starving around the globe, can afford the prices apple charge for repairs and components. Besides something needing to be upgradable, it also has to be repairable.And while most people won't open up their imac I am sure most of us have a friend or a family member that's a handy person who'll tweak or do a little repair the cheap way for us when we need it.
Apple is sculpting a premium consumer market that supposedly likes thin and sealed products, with custom ports, and soldered memories (all premium from apple only of course), and custom ssds where industry standards would fit (case in point the ample room in the 13" rmbp where apple is sticking a flash module engolfed in rubber with tons of wasted space). There's planned obsolescence too, another major chapter too long to discuss here.
Their only motivation for that is more, and more, EASY profit, at HUGE margins, far, far wider than anyone in an industry with razor thin margins and a lot of very big players routinely going under, or being on the verge to do so, from sharp, to pioneer, to nokia, to blackberrry etc. etc. Now, there's nothing wrong with a company wanting more profits, but there's a fine line and a lot of question marks as to what extent they are taking advantage of their customers to get to them. I think they are, and I think they are shameless at doing so. And it's not only hardware, it's also for example how they went about colluding with book publishers to get to this market as well, causing an unprecedented increase in ebook prices for the average consumer. They have clout, they are hip, they are a status symbol in many parts of the world, and they have carved out a way of doing things. That doesn't mean their way of doing things won't backfire at some point.
The market of the premium consumer THEY are carving out, is in THEIR opinion not interested in upgrading, or rather in being denied the right to uprade or repair yourself, or have a friend do it, and do so cheaply, and to extend the life of your device thus. That's their opinion. Of course that's the way they can make the most money too. If I were Tim Cook I wouldn't be taking this route, I d be aware that I 've been overcharging for way too long, and that times and fashions change all the time, and I 'd offer my customers more choice, less lock in, more functionality, less pointless styling.
Then. Don't. Buy. It.
There is NO fine line, it's supply and demand. If enough people stopped buying their products because they are not repairable, they would change.
You are being denied nothing, they are not the only option, just apparently the one that you want but aren't happy with.
Then. Don't. Buy. It.
It is apparent that you are not the premium consumer THEY are carving out, as if they had the ability to force this market upon you, which is laughable.
I get that people are disappointed, but comments like yours just sound like more of the entitlement generation who feels they have been wronged because they didn't get what they wanted. It's sad really.
re: Mac Pro doesn't count?
I completely get your point, but I feel like I have to defend the Mac Pro a bit here too. I elected to buy not just 1, but 2 of them over the years, because they've been such good workhorse machines for me.
Your claim that they don't count because they're "insane overkill" and don't get updated often is pretty suspect, IMO. Did you ever consider that maybe they go so long between major upgrades because their buyers don't feel like they NEED a new system for that long?
That's certainly been the case for me. I bought a 2006 Mac Pro when they were brand new and it was so expensive I had to take out a small loan for the thing. But you know what? I used it constantly until earlier this year, when I turned around and resold it and STILL got more resale value out of it than the price Dell asks for a typical brand new desktop right now.
It's not "overkill" if you're buying for the long haul. It's assurance that you're investing in a system that's good enough so you won't have to go through backing up all your data on it, wiping the drive to prep it for resale, finding a buyer, buying a new Mac, and reloading/restoring all your stuff to it every 2 or 3 years!
I completely get your point, but I feel like I have to defend the Mac Pro a bit here too. I elected to buy not just 1, but 2 of them over the years, because they've been such good workhorse machines for me.
Your claim that they don't count because they're "insane overkill" and don't get updated often is pretty suspect, IMO. Did you ever consider that maybe they go so long between major upgrades because their buyers don't feel like they NEED a new system for that long?
That's certainly been the case for me. I bought a 2006 Mac Pro when they were brand new and it was so expensive I had to take out a small loan for the thing. But you know what? I used it constantly until earlier this year, when I turned around and resold it and STILL got more resale value out of it than the price Dell asks for a typical brand new desktop right now.
It's not "overkill" if you're buying for the long haul. It's assurance that you're investing in a system that's good enough so you won't have to go through backing up all your data on it, wiping the drive to prep it for resale, finding a buyer, buying a new Mac, and reloading/restoring all your stuff to it every 2 or 3 years!
Ahhh... more self-righteous and self-serving indignation from the iFixit folks.
Yeah, the OUTRAGE of people who don't approve of a desktop computer designed to be thrown away after 2.5 years.
How dare they think any consumer product should last longer than that!!!
I'm sure you look at us pathetic folks who still drive cars that are 4, 5, or even 8 years old as self-righteous and self serving as well.
I'm a little behind I guess but I didn't realize the optical drive was gone from the new iMac. I did just get a new Macbook Pro Retina at work and was thinking "at least I can still use my iMac at home to burn discs when needed."
The floppy was ready to die when Apple quit offering them. However, the DVD refuses to die mainly because of horrible digital content distribution.
We rent at Redbox all the time and I cannot really believe that it is happening. It is almost 2013 and the best and most economical way to watch the movie you want is to drive down to Walgreens and rent a friggin disc from a kiosk and then return it the next day.
Netflix streaming is economical but has poor offerings. iTunes has better offerings (although far from perfect) but a $5 digital rental is not a good deal in my mind.
The floppy was ready to die when Apple quit offering them. However, the DVD refuses to die mainly because of horrible digital content distribution.
We rent at Redbox all the time and I cannot really believe that it is happening. It is almost 2013 and the best and most economical way to watch the movie you want is to drive down to Walgreens and rent a friggin disc from a kiosk and then return it the next day.
Netflix streaming is economical but has poor offerings. iTunes has better offerings (although far from perfect) but a $5 digital rental is not a good deal in my mind.
Way to apologize for Apple. And there's a difference between iFixit having a stake in repairability, and for them to be not be trustworthy because of it. They have a rating system for repairability, and I don't see any bias in their rating. If a computer is hard to repair like the iMac, or therMBP, then they will get a low score. And that's the way it should be.
That would be something to ask the gentleman who wrote the post. I agree that it would look very difficult but without actually doing it myself, I will have to rely on what others report.
I have to ask because I ask every time--who gives a **** what iFixit thinks other than iFixit? Why is their opinion even relevant? Take the thing to an Apple store--problem solved.
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I pop open every one of my computers, iPhones, etc. The "repairability" score is a good indication of how long the process takes. The walkthroughs they do are what really matters.
Besides that, opening a device is opening a device. Some are easier than others. In a PC I'm more likely to slice open my hand, because they don't polish the steel edges. With a Mac, I'm more likely to lose a screw.
Come on people, disassembly isn't rocket science. Be careful, go slowly, and have a good process for keeping track of what part goes where during reassembly. Oh, and keep kids/cats out of the room.
Not really, I am not that into these types of websites to be honest, I like more tech news and less gadgety news, I might go for the uk site the register for example, but engadget has some respectability at least, gizmodo too, not too bad... the verge is simply unbearable in the way they suck up to apple, and the fanboism that ensues, I for once can't stomach it...
Gizmodo? Oy! I just lost ALL respect for you.
it's fantastic thing, Steve Jobs now tossing and turning in his grave in shame.
That goes hand & hand with Apples target market. The USA leads when it comes to tolerant consumers living in a throwaway society. The concept of "maintenance & repair" has no appeal to the average consumer.
Rather than do the math, manage their finances & be fiscally sound. It's much more fashionable to buy, buy, buy. Amassing debt, keeping the credit card companies fat, and having expensive possessions they only think they own.
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No worries. The consummate narcissist, he knew no shame.
Gizmodo? Oy! I just lost ALL respect for you.
They serve some great pints of lager at Redwood City bars, that's all.
i wouldn't mind not having user serviceable access to memory and hard drives if the machine cost 400 bucks and it got tossed after three years if need necessitated.
but for machines costing over 1200, over 2K?? f.u. mang, it should be upgradable
but for machines costing over 1200, over 2K?? f.u. mang, it should be upgradable
Ugh I rather go into wal-mart on black friday than go into an Apple store any day of the year. Horrible experience. I can't see what is so fascinating about the same stuff sitting on shelves for years and years. Same style iphone, everyone has seen an ipad by now. Reminds me of the walking dead in a sense. Eyes look the same LOL
A Sony store makes more sense to be crowded since they have so much different gear.
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What's sad is that people can put up with being charged an extra +$450 for the benefit of apple sticking a $60 (retail) component in a socket and apple has the audacity to force upon unknowing customers hard drive speeds circa 2003 in 2013 instead of sticking a $30 32gb flash module there for the os and apps to run at proper speeds.
The "then don't buy it" argument doesn't hold ground, I am into their ecosystem deep I need to buy a mac, I'll HAVE to buy it, and they will get their 400% margin off of me, or I ll have to go with the mini that in their infinite wisdom no longer has a discrete gpu (what the hell did they do THAT for), so I am getting effed either way.
Thanks apple.
Why not put Apple in control over your total life, as well? Let Apple decide if you deserve a meal today, by buying an AppleFoodCare. I mean, if you let Apple decide it, they will make sure your meal is up to standard, before approving it, right? Must only be good for you?
But I also bet NORMAL people have enough self control not to throw things such as trash cans at their TVs. A company can't build in tolerance points for drunk/angry-because-football-team-lost nights....
Apples own external Disc Drive that is portable (ANY iMac is NOT) is plentiful at Best Buy. $69.
I have a Mac Pro, a brand new Mac Mini -- iPhones, iPads, Apple TV - I myself haven't used the built in disc drive on my Pro literally in months. This a TREND in technology, clearly not Apples doing. Geez. God the childish complaints. I bet these same people populated the anti Blu ray forums and even the pro Blu ray people that still can't accept it itself was just a bridge format and it too is going to fade fast.
Some perspective -- these forums are for a small demographic of core customers that sometimes let their passions get the best of them. While I certainly am a core customer and very passionate about Apples ecosystem, I have no desire whatsoever to open up an iMac and cry hurt cuz of its production. I guess I'm so smart that if I'm so concerned about a computers RAM etc, I'd just make sure I ordered the make and model that fit my needs, PERIOD. I mean, it's not like Apple itself offers only one config, c'mon. Same stupid reason you'd *think* that the built in speakers should be THX quality -- bahaaaahahahahahahha.
Reality Check -- Apple TV streams all your audio from your iMac to your home theater system, why on earth would anyone expect dynamic sound out of a monitor? Personally OR professionally.?...!!!!
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