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hmm. i guess i'll pick one of these up someday. maybe the extra antenna will improve performance all around?

Isn't this how Air Drop works. The first antenna simply connects the computers and then using the second antenna an ad-hoc network is created. This could help with AirPlay especially when HD video is being streamed over wifi.
 
The people that were holding out for a fullhd atv should get this one. But people who already have one are not going to be pushed to swap theirs.

This isn't really a significant upgrade like the the new iPad. And I can't believe it still doesn't have gigabit ethernet! Must be expensive:eek:

I upgraded one of my ATV 2's because I have a lot of blu ray rips that I really wanted to convert for use with the Apple TV. I've been using a WDTV Live to stream them to my TV and it's a piece of garbage that only works 50% of the time. I agree that for a lot of people, the upgrade to 1080P isn't that big a deal, for me it is though. I'll eventually upgrade my second ATV 2 as well, but the TV that's hooked up to isn't particularly great, so I don't think I'd notice the quality difference all that much anyway.

As for the gigabit ethernet...that would be a largely useless feature on the ATV. You don't transfer files to it for storage. It has 8GB of flash memory on board to cache content as it streams, so there's no need for super fast access during playback. No one has an internet connection that is remotely fast enough to take advantage of gigabit ethernet. And lastly, most people don't have their routers near where their ATV(s) are used, and wouldn't want to run long cables all over the house to attach them.
 
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I saw a menu tab that said Games during the presentation, what does that mean?
 
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Mak47 said:
ghostlines said:
The people that were holding out for a fullhd atv should get this one. But people who already have one are not going to be pushed to swap theirs.

This isn't really a significant upgrade like the the new iPad. And I can't believe it still doesn't have gigabit ethernet! Must be expensive:eek:

I upgraded one of my ATV 2's because I have a lot of blu ray rips that I really wanted to convert for use with the Apple TV. I've been using a WDTV Live to stream them to my TV and it's a piece of garbage that only works 50% of the time. I agree that for a lot of people, the upgrade to 1080P isn't that big a deal, for me it is though. I'll eventually upgrade my second ATV 2 as well, but the TV that's hooked up to isn't particularly great, so I don't think I'd notice the quality difference all that much anyway.

As for the gigabit ethernet...that would be a largely useless feature on the ATV. You don't transfer files to it for storage. It has 8GB of flash memory on board to cache content as it streams, so there's no need for super fast access during playback. No one has an internet connection that is remotely fast enough to take advantage of gigabit ethernet. And lastly, most people don't have their routers near where their ATV(s) are used, and wouldn't want to run long cables all over the house to attach them.

You obviously don't have gigabit Ethernet wired through your home...it is the greatest convenience ever not always having to rely on a wifi signal. It's speeds are almost always faster, many times significantly.
 
I bought one this afternoon, and it is worth noting that this generation DOES support 5GHz 802.11n. (The 2nd gen supported N, but only 2.4GHz.)

2nd gen supported 5ghz as well (mines running on this now!).
 
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You obviously don't have gigabit Ethernet wired through your home...it is the greatest convenience ever not always having to rely on a wifi signal. It's speeds are almost always faster, many times significantly.

Thumbs up for GigE. Wireless is great and all, but I'll take the reliability, minimal lag, and pure blazing speed of a gigE hardwire any day.
 
The extra RAM (256MB -> 512MB) is probably used for buffering 1080p content while streaming. Flash has finite write cycles so it is not ideal for buffering content that won't be used again. Full movie rentals will need to be stored on the flash.
 
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The extra RAM (256MB -> 512MB) is used for buffering 1080p content. Flash has finite write cycles so not ideal for buffering content.


The flash is used for buffering the content, how else would my Apple TV2 with 256mb of RAM buffer an entire 3Gb movie?

You'd have to watch a lot of movies before you wore out the flash.

With logic like that, i might avoid your apps :confused:
 
I should have clarified that I was talking about the streaming scenario. If bandwidth was enough for streaming then buffering in RAM would be better than flash. Flash is obviously needed for full movie rental storage and you are right that it will take a lot of movies to wear out the flash. The device would probably be obsolete before the flash wore out under normal usage.

BTW, my apps are awesome ;)

The flash is used for buffering the content, how else would my Apple TV2 with 256mb of RAM buffer an entire 3Gb movie?

You'd have to watch a lot of movies before you wore out the flash.

With logic like that, i might avoid your apps :confused:
 
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My brother is about to get an iPad 3 so I'm thinking of giving him my ATV2 and buying the new one so that I can stream HD and in readiness for AirPlay from my MBA. I know it's not much of an upgrade but the apparent extra hardware for AirPlay seems worthwhile.

It does seem that the software update has fixed the issue with Netflix streaming that I (and many others it seems) have been having.
 
And I can't believe it still doesn't have gigabit ethernet! Must be expensive:eek:

Ha! This is a streaming device.
- Is there ANY content on your network you want to share through it that requires more than 100mb/s bandwith? Or even a fraction?
- Same goes for streaming internet video, is your internet pipe 100mb/s? If not, why the heck does it need gigabit? And what content, again, would require it?
 
With 2gb RAM and over-clocked A6 Quad chip that ATV could be quite good gaming platform also. More powerful than Nintendo Wii thats for sure.
 
Given that the Apple TV is a streaming-only device, on-board storage is only required to support the operating system and buffering of streaming content.

The flash memory is also used to store user photos if your photo library is selected as a screensaver. This continues to work even if the library is unavailable on the network.
 
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