tech help needed

loneshark

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Apr 20, 2007
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sup guys, listen I have a cousin who owns a macbook, she let some guy use her laptop to get her online.

she has several routers available to choose from, but, some ask for a password they must be WEP enabled, and some say defaults like linkysys and netgear, and even one thats called default.

well he was succesful in getting into one of the routers, and he must have either known the password or use an app to generate one. most likely since he was on a unknown station, he managed to guess a password.

so now, she was online talking to me, and then next moment she lost all signal.

she says she was on a linksys router, but now when she tries to get on to the linksys router she gets an error.

"there was an error joining the network linksys"

after some research Ive done, i see that linksys default routers use the following default passwords: http://www.cirt.net/cgi-bin/passwd.pl?method=showven&ven=Linksys

1. can anyone confirm this?

2. how did this guy get her laptop on internet thru this linksys router?

3. he ended up downloading Azerus and getting her some .iso files for music

4. what else could he have downloaded for malicious intent ?
-keyloggers ? any names (apps) i should have her look for so she can delete them ?

5. thanks !!!!!!!!

aim me : loneshark2000

icq : 491218166
 

pianoman

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i'll say three things about this. first, the default passwords for most routers i've worked with are "admin".

second, inasmuch as my first point might have contradicted this, i cannot justly aid the illegal sharing of Internet access via routers. people use passwords for a reason and obviously whatever method got your cousin onto the Internet in the first place was un-kosher in that she was soon kicked off and unallowed to return.

third, instead of people telling you names of apps that could have been downloaded, i suggest looking in the Applications folder for anything that wasn't installed with OS X or that wasn't intentionally downloaded by your cousin.
 

vanmacguy

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Aug 13, 2007
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Not where you live.
He probably got her connected via a router that was not secure.

But if he was downloading applications for file sharing and then music he probably used a fair amount of bandwidth and the owner of the router would have then noticed and may have implemented some security such as MAC filtering. MAC filtering is when the router will only allow computes to connect if it has been setup with the MAC address of that computer.

the message she's getting is saying that she's not allowed to connect. It's not that there is a 'problem' just that she's not allowed.

And don't steal music, it's not cool.
 

loneshark

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Apr 20, 2007
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i'll say three things about this. first, the default passwords for most routers i've worked with are "admin".

second, inasmuch as my first point might have contradicted this, i cannot justly aid the illegal sharing of Internet access via routers. people use passwords for a reason and obviously whatever method got your cousin onto the Internet in the first place was un-kosher in that she was soon kicked off and unallowed to return.

third, instead of people telling you names of apps that could have been downloaded, i suggest looking in the Applications folder for anything that wasn't installed with OS X or that wasn't intentionally downloaded by your cousin.
yes I agree, but:
1. she is an unsavvy mac user, and i know passwords like vinson and admin for computers that used unix OS and the link was there in my post just to state the obvious

2. I agree, she should be getting her own internet, legally sharing or using someone elses internet is like sharing a registered gun.

3. she doesnt not know what was there originally and what is new, the only reason she knows she has Azerus is because its on the dock. so this guy clicked on "keep in dock"

4. what apps could he have used to get her info, like keyloggers, I have installed keyloggers on my friends PC so they could keep tabs on their little kiddies on the computer.


He probably got her connected via a router that was not secure.


the message she's getting is saying that she's not allowed to connect. It's not that there is a 'problem' just that she's not allowed.
yes I agree, but this person who owns the linksys router didnt even bother to change the name of the router, so the password was probably admin, but changed when the owner realized that his computer was running so slow due to her running a torrent app.

But if he was downloading applications for file sharing and then music he probably used a fair amount of bandwidth and the owner of the router would have then noticed and may have implemented some security such as MAC filtering. MAC filtering is when the router will only allow computes to connect if it has been setup with the MAC address of that computer.
yes Im familiar with MAC addressing, but my cousin isnt, and to work over the phone to help her, as she lives in another state, is a pain in the ass to explain to her.

And don't steal music, it's not cool.
I dont even want to get into this ethical debate ! grr LOL


thanks for the help tho
 

elcid

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Ok, passwords are different then WEP passwords. They are not the same. The default password to access the routers settings for linksys is a blank username and admin password.

This is not what you need to sign on the router to get past security. WEP is a 128 bit hex, you dont "guess" it without a brute force tool. And whats the story about her not having her own internet? The worst thing a person can do for identity theft is to connect to an unsecure network and start doing confidential information. Might as well stand out in the street and give away your bank pin and account number.


To be honest, back up the machine and recreate everything. You are worried about too much. If your cousin complains tell her not to ever let anyone touch her computer again that she cant 100% trust.
 

pianoman

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Ok, passwords are different then WEP passwords. They are not the same. The default password to access the routers settings for linksys is a blank username and admin password.

This is not what you need to sign on the router to get past security.
this is true and i'm surprised at myself for not saying it earlier since i set up a new router only a few months ago with a WEP password.
 

loneshark

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Apr 20, 2007
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florida
Ok, passwords are different then WEP passwords. They are not the same. The default password to access the routers settings for linksys is a blank username and admin password.

This is not what you need to sign on the router to get past security. WEP is a 128 bit hex, you dont "guess" it without a brute force tool. And whats the story about her not having her own internet? The worst thing a person can do for identity theft is to connect to an unsecure network and start doing confidential information. Might as well stand out in the street and give away your bank pin and account number.


To be honest, back up the machine and recreate everything. You are worried about too much. If your cousin complains tell her not to ever let anyone touch her computer again that she cant 100% trust.
this is true and i'm surprised at myself for not saying it earlier since i set up a new router only a few months ago with a WEP password.
exactley, i agree totally, also if the person who owns the connection is doing anything ilegal, she could also be implicated !

I have told her to get her own connection.