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Then use your absolutely safe WhatsApp operated by Meta
It is absolutely safe. Meta cannot read your messages unlike the Russian guy who owns telegram. It’s laughable that this app is even legal given the Russian ownership.

I am by no means a meta fan and I hate some of their practices but WhatsApp has end to end encryption (as does iMessage, signal and most others now). How can people use telegram without end to end encryption is beyond me.
 
Never used Discord, either.

I'm not complaining, just don't get it. I just iMessage/text the people I know
So just keep doing that, what do need explained exactly? TG is the best messaging app out there several reasons. If you iMessage+text and none of your friends use TG, I doubt you need convincing.
 
Telegram is REALLY UNSAFE as it is one of the few messaging apps that doesn’t offer end to end encryption. People trash WhatsApp but it is infinitely safer than telegram. If you want god knows who to read all your chats and see images and videos you share then use telegram lol
This is untrue. You just create a "secret chat" instead of a standard chat and it's E2E encrypted.


Developer docs: https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end
 
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Discord is aimed at all sorts of groups, but used by gamers mainly in my experience. When I meet someone in an online game, I feel much better sharing a Discord username or server with them, rather than my phone number.

Not enough people seem to care about this. Phone numbers can’t be masked, you can only realistically have 2, and changing your phone number is painful, expensive, and problematic due to 2FA. Giving your phone number to randoms is a terrible idea. Yet all the big messaging apps - WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, force you to reveal your phone number.

These apps don’t operate on the mobile network so could use literally any identifier they want. Instead, they pick the worst identifier imaginable.

I wonder if anyone working on these products ever stops to question why exactly they even use phone numbers in the first place.
 
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Easy - other people have friends that have it. Other people can find utility in something that you personally do not.

Personally, I prefer it over something like Discord. Infinitely better UX than that garbage heap.
And most people forget that Telegram is one of few app that uses lot of fast and lightweight native programming language instead of superheavy bloat languages like Electron, Nodejs etc browser wrapped things that wants to be an app. I avoid everything that is heavy bloat app or use only some if really needed. I have tree icons bottom of home screen 1: Call icon, 2: Telegram(Swiftgram mod) and 3: Messages. I hate bloatware with passion.
 
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It's mindblowing that people trust Telegram is a safe messaging service when there's plenty of factors that that tell you not to trust it.

Marginally safter than SMS.

Of course, the guys selling you their privacy software will tell you that other services aren't private enough and you should buy their stuff!
 
Lmaooo the other features they introduced are more NFT garbage 💀

Also classic Telegram acting like they’re being singled out by Apple when they literally warned every developer the review team was gonna be slower during the holidays

Maybe they should check their emails, idk
 
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Telegram is REALLY UNSAFE as it is one of the few messaging apps that doesn’t offer end to end encryption. People trash WhatsApp but it is infinitely safer than telegram. If you want god knows who to read all your chats and see images and videos you share then use telegram lo
You can use secret chats if you want end-to-end encryption. If you want more convenience, you use standard chats, which are still encrypted but can be decrypted by telegram. You have all the options and your comment is a lie.
 
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No electronic communication is truly safe. If you want to stay private, talk in person.

If you want private, make sure you check the person with whom you are talking for wires. That's only half facetious. There are microphones all over the place these days on cell phones, computers, surveillance cameras, etc. It is pretty hard to be truly safe unless you've swept everything for bugs.
 
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Marginally safter than SMS.

Of course, the guys selling you their privacy software will tell you that other services aren't private enough and you should buy their stuff!
To their credit, Proton doesn't have a chat/messenger app, so they have no horse in that race. Tho' I found it odd they didn't recommend other apps explicitly like Signal.
 
To their credit, Proton doesn't have a chat/messenger app, so they have no horse in that race. Tho' I found it odd they didn't recommend other apps explicitly like Signal.

They don't have their own messenger yet! ...people aren't using protonmail as IM, are they?
 
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