Telegram CEO Says Apple Has Been 'Preventing' iOS App Updates Since Russia's Ban in April

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In April, the Russian government banned secure messaging app Telegram and this month asked Apple to remove it from the iOS App Store completely in the country, citing the potential for terrorist communication via the app since Telegram refused to allow Russia to read user messages. As this unfolds, Telegram CEO Pavel Durov posted an update for users early this morning in an effort to explain why some features "don't work correctly under iOS 11.4" (via ArsTechnica).

According to Durov, Apple has been "preventing" the Telegram iOS app from updating on a global scale, dating back to when Russia banned the app in April. Durov says that his company chose to do the "only possible thing" and refused to provide Russia with decryption keys to access user messages, "preserving the right of our users privacy in a troubled country."


He continued by stating, "Unfortunately, Apple didn't side with us." The CEO says Apple's restricting of Telegram dates back to mid-April and while Russia represents a small subset of its user base (7 percent), Apple's actions affect all Telegram users around the world. Because of this, the launch of iOS 11.4 on Tuesday has broken some Telegram features like stickers, and caused the company to miss its deadline for compliance with the GDPR for users in the European Union.
Apple has been preventing Telegram from updating its iOS apps globally ever since the Russian authorities ordered Apple to remove Telegram from the App Store. Russia banned Telegram on its territory in April because we refused to provide decryption keys for all our users' communications to Russia's security agencies. We believe we did the only possible thing, preserving the right of our users to privacy in a troubled country.

Unfortunately, Apple didn't side with us. While Russia makes up only 7% of Telegram's userbase, Apple is restricting updates for all Telegram users around the world since mid-April. As a result, we've also been unable to fully comply with GDPR for our EU-users by the deadline of May 25, 2018. We are continuing our efforts to resolve the situation and will keep you updated.
By missing the deadline, Telegram users in Europe won't have the same level of security and privacy in comparison to compliant apps, and a lack of updates could put the platform at a higher risk of vulnerability. Apple has yet to comment on the issue or explain its stance, but Durov hopes to "resolve the situation" soon as the company continues its efforts to get the iOS app up to date for all users.

This is far from the first time Telegram has been in hot water with both Apple and Russia. Earlier in February, Apple pulled Telegram from the App Store due to reports of "inappropriate content" being hosted on the messaging service, but it made a return a few hours after disappearing, once Telegram put additional protections in place.

For Russia, the government previously threatened a ban on Telegram last summer after repeated efforts to obtain more information about the company were ignored. While seemingly innocuous, Russia's request for a "form with information" on Telegram would effectively add the company to the state regulators' registry, further requiring Telegram to retain users' chats and to share encryption keys with Russian authorities if asked. Similar requests date back to 2014.

As of writing, Telegram Messenger for iOS was last updated on March 24, 2018.

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tzm41

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This makes relatively little sense though... Why would Apple do that? They could allow it to be updated elsewhere and comply with Russia to remove it from Russian App Store.
 

WaruiKoohii

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I'd been wondering why the Telegram app had been stagnating so badly and was so broken with 11.4. I was blaming Telegram, but I guess it's more appropriate to blame Apple.

Hopefully now that this is starting to make waves online, Apple will allow an update through.

I've been an iPhone user since 2008 but Apple's behavior lately with the app store is really making me consider switching to Android.
 

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This is the kind of stuff that makes me lose trust in a platform. Why is Apple trying to undermine Telegram? Nobody even seems to have an answer as to the reasons.

Knowing that any time my favorite app might be nuked because Apple has some issue with it makes me feel less trusting in the company. They should be open about why Telegram isn't being updated, and work with the developers to get the app approved.

Even if you don't use Telegram, pay attention, because your favorite app or platform might be next. At least with Android you can side-load, so they are less affected. I don't want to run Android though. My investment is in iOS and MacOS.

EDIT: If Durov is lying about the reasons Apple is holding back the app, then all bets are off. I suppose all we can do is speculate; hopefully this mess will be resolved soon. Either way, legitimate side-loading would be a great thing for iOS.
 
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WaruiKoohii

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Even if you don't use Telegram, pay attention, because your favorite app or platform might be next. At least with Android you can side-load, so they are less affected. I don't want to run Android though. My investment is in iOS and MacOS.
I'm fairly invested in the iOS platform as well, but if this is how Apple is going to run the app store then it's irresponsible for me to continue investing in the ecosystem.

I have an 8 Plus that I will be holding onto for a while longer, but when it comes time to buy a new phone I'll have to see if Apple has stopped acting like this.
 
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This is the kind of stuff that makes me lose trust in a platform. Why is Apple trying to undermine Telegram? Nobody even seems to have an answer as to the reasons.

Knowing that any time my favorite app might be nuked because Apple has some issue with it makes me feel less trusting in the company. They should be open about why Telegram isn't being updated, and work with the developers to get the app approved.

Even if you don't use Telegram, pay attention, because your favorite app or platform might be next. At least with Android you can side-load, so they are less affected. I don't want to run Android though. My investment is in iOS and MacOS.
Well said. This doesn’t make Apple look good at all, and it’s scary.
 

Futurix

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I don't believe Durov. Apple is not the kind of company to bend over for Russians.
Most likely the app was rejected for some violation of store guidelines and the request from Russia is just a coincidence. And now Durov is trying to force Apple to give Telegram a free pass by accusing them of censorship.
 

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I don't believe Durov. Apple is not the kind of company to bend over for Russians.
Most likely the app was rejected for some violation of store guidelines and the request from Russia is just a coincidence. And now Durov is trying to force Apple to give Telegram a free pass by accusing them of censorship.
How does this make sense? Telegram has been in the app store with no issues for quite some time. Now, all of a sudden, they are violating some app store guidelines... guidelines they've been following all along? I have no idea where the blame lies. Could be Telegram. Could be Apple. <insert>whynotbothlittlegirl.gif

Apple is the kind of company that will bend over for any country they deem important enough to "bend the knee" (can't wait for 2019). They even have kneepads for their relationship with China. :D They are no different than any other company.
 

WaruiKoohii

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Are developers allowed to use enterprise certs for beta testing? This is the first time I hear of any dev doing that and it just "feels" like something Apple wouldn't allow.

Unless things have changed in the past few years.
I'm not really sure what Apple's policies are on this, but I've installed apps like this before. It's for sure a more convenient way to sideload apps than XCode.
 

now i see it

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Unless iMessage is blocked in Russia, why would anyone need to use Telegram?... unless iMessage really isn't unbreakably encrypted as Apple claims it to be.
 

WaruiKoohii

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Unless iMessage is blocked in Russia, why would anyone need to use Telegram?... unless iMessage really isn't unbreakably encrypted as Apple claims it to be.
More features plus you can also talk to Android users and people on Windows and Linux PCs.

I love Telegram and use it to talk to people even though they have iMessage. It's just so much nicer.
 

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Apple has been creating a lot of negative press with App developers (Steam and now Telegram). As an app developer, why should I continue putting my trust in Apple and not just focus solely on Android? If enough developers do this, you'll have an app less platform. How well did that work out for Windows Phone?
 

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I'm sorry that Telegram lost their presence in Russia. I do stand by their firm action by refusing the decryption key though. Their users have the right to their privacy. Unfortunately it's not up to Apple to side with Telegram. If they want to do business in Russia, they have to comply with the government's order, as mush as they have to comply with US government's orders when it comes to governing the United States. I don't think we should blame Apple for the app removal or rejection to updates. But I do agree that they should allow updates/app globally and remove only in Russia.
 

farewelwilliams

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This is the kind of stuff that makes me lose trust in a platform. Why is Apple trying to undermine Telegram? Nobody even seems to have an answer as to the reasons.

Knowing that any time my favorite app might be nuked because Apple has some issue with it makes me feel less trusting in the company. They should be open about why Telegram isn't being updated, and work with the developers to get the app approved.

Even if you don't use Telegram, pay attention, because your favorite app or platform might be next. At least with Android you can side-load, so they are less affected. I don't want to run Android though. My investment is in iOS and MacOS.

EDIT: If Durov is lying about the reasons Apple is holding back the app, then all bets are off. I suppose all we can do is speculate; hopefully this mess will be resolved soon. Either way, legitimate side-loading would be a great thing for iOS.
im sure if Telegram unchecked Russia from the app store, they can continue updating. blame russia, not apple.
 
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I don't believe Durov. Apple is not the kind of company to bend over for Russians.
Most likely the app was rejected for some violation of store guidelines and the request from Russia is just a coincidence. And now Durov is trying to force Apple to give Telegram a free pass by accusing them of censorship.
sure :). the only important thing for Apple is $ :). have you heard about Apple in China? Apple is just talking bullsh*t about freedom of speech etc., but they are able to forget everything they say for the sake of $ and possibility of losing a market.
 
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