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National Insurance is exactly that, an insurance policy... As I stated before nothing is free.

Whatever you say I'd still rather have relatively low cost insurance paid to the government - a government who doesn't refuse customers, and doesn't make the whole process of getting better aggravated by worries over how much this is costing.

The BBC iplayer is a joke for the following reason l ;

Does anybody actually watch TV on their computer ?

Yeh I do thanks for asking. As a student it makes much more sense to have Eye Tv on the computer than having a completely separate box taking up space in my room.

Having said that iPlayer is fairly bad - because as with most Windows software its badly designed. For example you have to browse the shows in internet explorer (Safari didn't work for me). But the BBC on iTunes will of course charge money for their shows - as they do for DVDs. The license fee only covers actual TV and Radio stuff - and a little online content.
 
Yeh I do thanks for asking. As a student it makes much more sense to have Eye Tv on the computer than having a completely separate box taking up space in my room.
Yep, when I lived in Oxford I used to use a DTT tuner on my iBook with EyeTV because I lived in a shared house and the TV wasn't always on the channel I wanted to watch :)

Having said that iPlayer is fairly bad - because as with most Windows software its badly designed.

I agree with you about iPlayer, but think it's a bit harsh on all the hardworking and probably underpaid (many students) programmers out there to say that most of their software is badly designed!
 
I Watch TV 100% Of The Time At My Computers' Command Center

The BBC iplayer is a joke for the following reason l ;

Does anybody actually watch TV on their computer ?

Apart from the fact that 70% of PC's are 'junk tech' in call centres I would be surprised if anyone is actually going to sit and watch hours of TV a their computer screen least of all BBC licence payers on PC's...

I mean really watch TV - not surfing clips, news items or the odd 30 min mpeg you have 'acquirred' once or twice a week...

This is the whole point of Apple TV isn't it - to get digital media content into your living room where you can sit and watch it from the couch comfortably with your friends and family on the big screen.

All this crap about TV is dead is just bollox. The content delivery options may be changing but the 'sitting down in comfort' and watching the content will NEVER change...People aren't going to sit around the computer screen to watch TV.

So as far as I can tell Apple are the only players around that actually have a genuinely effortless and refined web to living room solution going on right now.


So why BBC doesn't partner up with Apple and offer a genuine 'catchup' viewing system via the Apple TV - with perhaps a dedicated menu like they have for Youtube is frankly stupid and in all probably only blocked by the microsoft gimp...

This is why I say the BBC iplayer is part criminal and part ill-conceived.

Apple TV integration would have been seriously sweet...
I watch TV on my computers 100% of the time. I have a 40" Samsung 1920 x 1080 HDTV as my primary monitor on my Mac Pro and a 24" Dell 1920 x 1200 as my secondary. With two EyeTV tuners on two Quad Core Macs, over the air TV comes right into my Mac Pro & Quad G5 and on to the big screens I am watching from the comfort of my computers' command center where I am operating 4 computers at once over the span of 7 screens including a 30" screen attached to the Quad G5.

Your notion of only sitting in a living room to watch television applies to most people's lifestyles, but not to all. I'm a HDTV on Computers FREAK Baby! :eek: ;)

I've got it set up so there is really no difference between watching HDTV and computing. It's a seamless transition between the two activities that I am often doing at the same time.
 
I got rid of my old small 14" TV in my room and watch TV off my Mac now.

The recording feature is the best - fact that I can set my Mac to wake up at a certain time, record the TV show then go back to sleep is just awesome.
 
I watch TV on my computers 100% of the time. I have a 40" Samsung 1920 x 1080 HDTV as my primary monitor on my Mac Pro and a 24" Dell 1920 x 1200 as my secondary. With two EyeTV tuners on two Quad Core Macs, over the air TV comes right into my Mac Pro & Quad G5 and on to the big screens I am watching from the comfort of my computers' command center where I am operating 4 computers at once over the span of 7 screens including a 30" screen attached to the Quad G5.

Your notion of only sitting in a living room to watch television applies to most people's lifestyles, but not to all. I'm a HDTV on Computers FREAK Baby! :eek: ;)

!!

What TV do you watch that needs that kind of commitment to equipment?

Almost everything on TV is rubbish. Most films aren't much better.


As for AppleTV. Not a bad idea but iTunes should rip DVDs and the bought content off iTMS should have 1080p resolution (1080i at least).
 
As for AppleTV. Not a bad idea but iTunes should rip DVDs and the bought content off iTMS should have 1080p resolution (1080i at least).

1080p resolution for a download?! Are you insane?! The file size would be massive - not adaquet for home use.

720p is brilliant - and standing back to the proper viewing distance you can barely, if at all see much of a difference in 1080 and 720.

1080p also puts more strain on the GPU and most low end TV's that feature 1080p can't even display it smoothly. It panics when there is too much happening on the screen.
 
1080p resolution for a download?! Are you insane?! The file size would be massive - not adaquet for home use.

720p is brilliant - and standing back to the proper viewing distance you can barely, if at all see much of a difference in 1080 and 720.

1080p also puts more strain on the GPU and most low end TV's that feature 1080p can't even display it smoothly. It panics when there is too much happening on the screen.

I'm not insane. However, my point is that the pricing needs to reflect what quality you're actually getting from Apple. At the moment the whole thing just isn't going to work for most people. Remember the success of the iPod and the use of iTunes was mainly due to people ripping CDs (you can choose the quality) and still most people's ipods are full of non-iTMS content. This effect is magnified with visual content as there is the barrier of actually getting the content to people's TV.
 
I'm not insane. However, my point is that the pricing needs to reflect what quality you're actually getting from Apple. At the moment the whole thing just isn't going to work for most people. Remember the success of the iPod and the use of iTunes was mainly due to people ripping CDs (you can choose the quality) and still most people's ipods are full of non-iTMS content. This effect is magnified with visual content as there is the barrier of actually getting the content to people's TV.

I've never bought a single piece through the iTunes store and probably never will.

My local record shop (screw the big companies like Virgin) often has deals and good offers on music, albums half price and latest tunes etc. Much more value for money.

I don't really agree with paying such a high price for music either...as a musican myself I play my guitar in my band because I love it and love the buzz it gives me, not because I only aim to make huge mounts of cash.

Fair enough you'll need to make money to keep going as a musician, but the record companies are really bringing in corruption and taking away the musical love and talent.

Look at half the pish that appears in the charts, makes me really wonder how hard it is to get signed. I'm sure if I stuck a cat in a bin and banged the side and recorded it I could get a record out.

New era to that old phrase, "the best things in life are free."
 
Does apple just remove the $ sign and replace it with a £.

They do the same in Ireland, I think, only the dollar gets replaced by a euro sign. But...we still don't have tv programmes on the Ireland iTunes Store, even
though this has appeared. www.apple.com/ie/ It's an Irish Apple page, no doubt.
 
1080p resolution for a download?! Are you insane?! The file size would be massive - not adaquet for home use.

Haha, you know - that was my exact reaction a few years ago to downloading 4Mb MP3 files over a 56k modem... but people did it anyway.
 
They do the same in Ireland, I think, only the dollar gets replaced by a euro sign. But...we still don't have tv programmes on the Ireland iTunes Store, even
though this has appeared.

Barely any countries have TV programmes on the iTunes Store. Apple is a company that is focussed on products for the US market. All that other countries can hope for is a 'trickle down' effect...
 
Haha, you know - that was my exact reaction a few years ago to downloading 4Mb MP3 files over a 56k modem... but people did it anyway.

Hard drives don't have the capacity to store a growing collection of 1080p films and shows.

Eventually we'll get huge capacity hard drives at a fair price, but considering Apple TV's max HD option is only 160GB, storing a collection of 1080p films on that - maybe 8-12 if you are lucky.
 
Hard drives don't have the capacity to store a growing collection of 1080p films and shows.

Eventually we'll get huge capacity hard drives at a fair price, but considering Apple TV's max HD option is only 160GB, storing a collection of 1080p films on that - maybe 8-12 if you are lucky.

Let the software drive the hardware. It always has, always will.
 
But in this case (both mechanical on a large scale, and flash on the small scale) the hardware is falling quite a lot behind demand.

Someone came into my office the other day and said they'd seen that one of the memory manufacturers had just finished testing a TERABYTE flash drive.

Keep the faith, brother, keep the faith.
 
If i bought any tv shows it would be U.K ones. I've seen all US shows over and over again, I watched a clip about why apple has these sorts of prices and i remember steve jobs saying that it is all the tax and licenses they have to have compared to US it's very cheap there but here its very expensive for traders, another thing is i read that the BBC is going to compete with itunes so i don't think they will ever put bbc shows on the store now! :(

None of them are thinking fairly at what their customers might want which is for evey show that the BBC has to offer should be available to itunes customer! :) and another thing is for me, why do apple take sooo long to get things on the itunes store? and to release their products over here? that is what really bugs me!
 
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