Tell me what this means please (ram)

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by BenFL, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. BenFL macrumors member

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    I'm thinking I need to upgrade to 8gigs. What do you think? This is with just safari, itunes and mail open.
     

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  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    It wouldn't hurt to double up on the ram and also know iTunes and Safari aren't exactly memory coddlers.
     
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  4. BenFL thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks for the quick response. What exactly are page ins/page outs?

    This is how it normally is (Parallels is now running with the pages i use loaded)

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  5. mulo macrumors 68020

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    wouldn't be a dumb idea.
    I currently have mail safari itunes adium and preview open, i'm using 7.6gigs ram :) (lot of windows)
    of course a lot of it is inactive, which is great, apps that I have opened before open blazing fast.
     
  6. aimbdd macrumors 6502a

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    How did you possibly manage that?!? I only get 4gb with all that open
     
  7. alust2013 macrumors 601

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    That's impressive.

    Anyhow, OP, you should definitely go 8GB if that's going to be normal usage.
     
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    hahaa this is just from 12 hours uptime :D
    i'm thinking most of it is safari cache, I visit like, IDK ~500 webpages a day. is that too much? don't know but its a lot!

    edit:
    HAHAHAAHAH Safari dumped its cache, I now have 4.8GB free RAM :D
    I actually loled.

    edit2:
    interestingly enough this happened the second I hit the 12 hours uptime mark. I'm thinking thats a routine os x has. or maybe it was periodic daily, dont know, but curious enough.
     
  9. BenFL thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks, I will probably go ahead and order from OWC but with prices dropping ~$5 a week i may wait until after Christmas.
    What exactly is a page in/out? and is 2 million and 70k normal/ok?
     
  10. croooow macrumors 65816

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    This may be a dumb question, it that from a utility that comes with OS X or is that something you loaded on your MBP? I am using a Windows Machine now so I can't check for myself. But I am buying a Mac soon so I would like to use utility this when I get one.

    Thanks
     
  11. aimbdd macrumors 6502a

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    Hah nope. Its called istat pro
     
  12. croooow macrumors 65816

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    Thank you, that will be something I download soon after opening my MBP!
     
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    good luck! very useful utility.
     
  14. tjb1 macrumors 68000

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    Arent page ins the hdd or os storing information on the os instead of hdd?
     
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    As using a search engine does not seem to be an option:

    from Does my mac need more memory? found via "page in page out mac"

    Also of interest: Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor
     
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  17. spinnerlys Guest

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    That is contradictory, as you can see, they come, en masse. With spell checking disabled.
    Somehow they must have found this place, probably through a search engine, so why not use it a bit more?

    Anyway, good day to you.
     
  18. BenFL thread starter macrumors member

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    If everyone just searched everything everytime, you wouldnt have a precious forum to come to, as it needs the page hits for ad revenue otherwise, you would be stuck somewhere else. If its that big of a deal, instead of hitting reply, just get out of the thread? :confused:
     
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    Does that mean, that in order to support a message board you asked a question on, you rather wait for others to answer for a whole day, and even ask twice, instead of doing your own research?

    If that is really the case, then hats off (no sarcastic or ironic meaning intended). :)

    If it would be me, I wouldn't wait for a whole day, if I could find the answer myself.
    But maybe I'm too inexperienced in proper message board communication behaviour, thus I sometimes (nowadays less) fall back onto sarcasm.

    Anyway, I hope you got your answer.


    Btw, just out of genuine curiosity, would you have reacted the same way, if I would have just posted the links and quotes and left out the "As using a search engine does not seem to be an option:" part?
     
  20. TopHatPlus macrumors 6502

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    haha i love a good debate about this =D haha, wheres the guy that posts up like 15 links to past arguments now? haha

    page ins= the number of pages precessed by your ram

    page outs = the number of pages processed by your hard drive because your ram was full and unable to process any more with out dying.

    do you need more ran? its iffy, you do have a few page outs but its nothing compared to your page ins

    example

    i ran aperture 3 on my 2010 mbp 2.66 ghz i7 with 4 GB ddr3 1066 mhz ram for about 1 hours i had

    page ins = 150 000+
    page outs= 380 000+
    so as you can see as soon as i opened the program i maxed my ram and had a very slow pictured editing experience.

    example 2
    starcraft and or mincraft not after a fresh boot.

    page ins = 200 000+
    page outs 150 000+
    so after using my computer for several hours and then starting up star craft or mine craft with about 2 GB of ram free it was maxxed and my games got laggy.

    so more ram for me would be a must but i have heard of a mac pro towoer getting a whopping 8 page outs after an entire day of working with a mere 16 GB of ram >_< haha

    right now i have

    page ins = 47 000+
    page outs 0

    haha i hoped that helped a bit =D
     

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