They can happily outut 10bit colour to an external display.
But this has nothing to do with video standards obviously. 4K HDR etc on consumer video devices is the Wild West at this point.
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Tell my Why you guys bought a device with no HDR support ?
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They can happily outut 10bit colour to an external display.
But this has nothing to do with video standards obviously. 4K HDR etc on consumer video devices is the Wild West at this point.
Another question – what's wrong with just taking a solid high-contrast OLED TV (HDR is about real display contrast, isn't it?) with 10-bit input to prevent banding and plugging it into a rMBP?
What advantage does HDR10 or Dolby Vision bring compared to that setup?
From what I understood the aforementioned standards:
1) Define a new gamma curve
2) Define hardware requirements (10-bit for color gradation and new gamut)
3) Make sure that video taken with compliance to the standard look exactly the same on a compliant screen (consistent brightness, no colorshift or gamma shift)
But still, does it matter?
What advantage does HDR10 or Dolby Vision bring compared to that setup?
From what I understood the aforementioned standards:
1) Define a new gamma curve
2) Define hardware requirements (10-bit for color gradation and new gamut)
3) Make sure that video taken with compliance to the standard look exactly the same on a compliant screen (consistent brightness, no colorshift or gamma shift)
But still, does it matter?
This thread is written to stir anamosity. The title makes it clear OP has no intention to express concerns to the community, but wants to prop up their sekf entitlement, feel validated, and belittle people who are happy with the machines as is.
I think this whole thread should be locked.
I think this whole thread should be locked.
How hard is it to be able to want to watch a 4K movie in HDR off of your New almost $3,000 Laptop is that to much to ask ? For a consumer ? And they you have others going off the rails saying don't all professionals use TVs as monitors ?
Way to over complicate the issue.
What we have learned so far.
#1. The new late 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pro is seriously neutered in that it can not Display HDR when connected to a 4K HDR capable TV. Period.
#2. The very nice display it has even for "Pro use" is only 8-bit and therefore has those limitations as nice as it maybe.
#3. The only way is to buy a $999 LG 5K Ultrafine 27" display which is 10-bit after you already bought a $3,000 Laptop. Which for all its niceness does not Support either HDR protocol or even give you the ability to enable it as a choice. Kinda funny when a LG OLED 55" cost $1,500 or a Samsung KS8000 is only $899 and at 55" inches. And are 10-bit displays themselves.
Remeber guys this was only about watching a 4K movies and for all its costs. The new MBP fails miserably.
Way to over complicate the issue.
What we have learned so far.
#1. The new late 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pro is seriously neutered in that it can not Display HDR when connected to a 4K HDR capable TV. Period.
#2. The very nice display it has even for "Pro use" is only 8-bit and therefore has those limitations as nice as it maybe.
#3. The only way is to buy a $999 LG 5K Ultrafine 27" display which is 10-bit after you already bought a $3,000 Laptop. Which for all its niceness does not Support either HDR protocol or even give you the ability to enable it as a choice. Kinda funny when a LG OLED 55" cost $1,500 or a Samsung KS8000 is only $899 and at 55" inches. And are 10-bit displays themselves.
Remeber guys this was only about watching a 4K movies and for all its costs. The new MBP fails miserably.
There are serious differences between a TV and a computer monitor, if you don't understand why TV's are significantly cheaper then there's no point in explaining it. Your grammar is also making it very difficult to understand what on earth you are talking about. I appreciate you are a consumer, but it makes no sense that you would buy any computer in order to watch movies on your TV.
HDR is clearly exceptionally important to you. Go get yourself an Xbox and an HDR TV, you will have a much more enjoyable experience.
HDR is clearly exceptionally important to you. Go get yourself an Xbox and an HDR TV, you will have a much more enjoyable experience.
How is it overpriced if you are willing to pay for it? Doesn't that suggest that the MacBook Pro is in fact more valuable than simply the individual hardware components it's composed of?
None of the things you mentioned are standardized, so it's weird to claim "industry standards."
Sooo.... the OP wants to watch 4K HDR movies. I think this is what the thread is about?
The only way to do that currently is with a 4K bluray player connected to a 4K HDR enabled tv.
I don't think this is what the MacBook Pro is for.
Buy a bluray player.
The only way to do that currently is with a 4K bluray player connected to a 4K HDR enabled tv.
I don't think this is what the MacBook Pro is for.
Buy a bluray player.
My NEC PA271W hooked up over a DisplayPort connection reported 10-bit color fine (460 was outputting to it via Monoprice USB-C to DP cable).
If the new MBP doesn't satisfy your needs, buy a computer that does. I don't understand why this is so complicated?
If the new MBP doesn't satisfy your needs, buy a computer that does. I don't understand why this is so complicated? Is it really worth a thread? Is it the end of the world?
If the new MBP doesn't satisfy your needs, buy a computer that does. I don't understand why this is so complicated? Is it really worth a thread? Is it the end of the world?
Yeah, I agree. This thread is kinda dumb. Unsubscribed from this nonsense.
Actually it's posts like this that are useless, in my opinion.
I come to the discussion forum to hear people's opinions/concerns/complaints. Some of its good and some of its bad, but it's interesting hearing people's opinions, even if they're misinformed.
Telling them to get another computer and not starting the discussion to begin with, is missing the whole point of the forum section.
Yep... next thread will be... are you upset that Apple/macOS does not support Netflix 4k decoding H.265 10Bit Play Ready 3.0 like Windows with the Edge Browser?
No, I'm still looking forward to my MacBook Pro 15!
It's a bit sad that Netflix 4K is going this way, but it's not Apple fault.
99.9% of all current computers won't be able to watch Netflix 4K.
Not even the newest Microsoft's Surface fleet supports it.
Aren't opinions great.
In my opinion, your post is useless as well.
OP clearly has an issue with the new MBP, what is the problem with me advising him to find a computer that fits his needs? Really, how many additional choices are they? If something doesn't fit your need you deal with, or you get something different, clearly he doesn't want to deal with it so....