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Fred Zed

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I’ve gone through around 4 tempered screen glass protectors from 4 different brands recently on my iPhone 13PM. They all fail and lift from the top right hand side of the screen - same area. I’m wondering perhaps maybe the glass is warped or not flat there anymore ? The first tempered screen protector lasted 6 months. All others after last no more than a week before lifting from that area. I’m using the same cases that I did before. Thanks.
 

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I’ve gone through around 4 tempered screen glass protectors from 4 different brands recently on my iPhone 13PM. They all fail and lift from the top right hand side of the screen - same area. I’m wondering perhaps maybe the glass is warped or not flat there anymore ? The first tempered screen protector lasted 6 months. All others after last no more than a week before lifting from that area. I’m using the same cases that I did before. Thanks.
It is because the adhesive under the glass doesn't stick properly or the brand has not produced them properly! Anyway, this is the problem with tempered glasses, I always use a film protector from Gadgetshieldz which sticks well and can self-heal the scratches that occur on it. A liquid is used to install the protector so it sticks well and no bubbles will occur! I use a case that covers the edges of the screen so my phone is fully protected from damage!
 

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I’ve gone through around 4 tempered screen glass protectors from 4 different brands recently on my iPhone 13PM. They all fail and lift from the top right hand side of the screen - same area. I’m wondering perhaps maybe the glass is warped or not flat there anymore ? The first tempered screen protector lasted 6 months. All others after last no more than a week before lifting from that area. I’m using the same cases that I did before. Thanks.
After 4 different brands doing the same thing, it almost HAS to be a problem with the surface of the phone.
Did you check for advice on the screen protector manufacturers for a method of checking the flatness of the glass screen of the phone?
I warped a corner of one screen protector by trying to peel it off to attempt realignment but that was clearly my error.
 

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It is because the adhesive under the glass doesn't stick properly or the brand has not produced them properly! Anyway, this is the problem with tempered glasses, I always use a film protector from Gadgetshieldz which sticks well and can self-heal the scratches that occur on it. A liquid is used to install the protector so it sticks well and no bubbles will occur! I use a case that covers the edges of the screen so my phone is fully protected from damage!
4 different brands not "produced properly"? 🙄

"this is the problem with tempered glasses"? 🤔
With the millions of such screen protectors in use, this is a common problem?
 

arkitect

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I’ve gone through around 4 tempered screen glass protectors from 4 different brands recently on my iPhone 13PM. They all fail and lift from the top right hand side of the screen - same area. I’m wondering perhaps maybe the glass is warped or not flat there anymore ? The first tempered screen protector lasted 6 months. All others after last no more than a week before lifting from that area. I’m using the same cases that I did before. Thanks.
That certainly would indicate an individual issue with your iPhone rather than faulty manufacturing of the protectors. Perhaps your iPhone might do with being checked by Apple?
Or perhaps the way you use the iPhone. Repetitive actions in the same area?

Out of interest, what 4 brands did you use?

I use the Spigen Easy Fit Tempered glass ones and I've not yet (touch wood!) had one misbehave.
I only change them if there are some really nasty scratches.
 
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shinigamii

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4 different brands not "produced properly"? 🙄

"this is the problem with tempered glasses"? 🤔
With the millions of such screen protectors in use, this is a common problem?
Yes, this could be a problem with tempered glass also a good quality glass given with a tray to install will perfectly stick well but it'll cost so much! That's why I use this film protector with a case which is more than enough...
 

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If multiple protectors have failed in the same area, that suggests that the phone's screen isn't perfectly flat, and may be distorted in that corner. Think back to the days of the 6-series and the "halos" around the perimeter of the screens due to the disparity between the curvature of the screen's edges, and the flat protector glass resulting in separation.

Otherwise, it might be something in the way the phone is held, or carried that is causing lifting?

They're not cheap, and it may be kind of silly to spend that much money on a protector, but a last resort would be to try one that uses a UV-cured liquid adhesive, like the Whitestone Dome.

Its liquid adhesive will do a better job of conforming to and filling uneven gaps than a static adhesive layer of a normal protector, and for something with extreme screen curvatures, like Samsung's phones, they were the better option.

I've installed a few, and the process isn't for the faint of heart, or ham-fisted, but really kind of neat.
 
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I’ve gone through around 4 tempered screen glass protectors from 4 different brands recently on my iPhone 13PM. They all fail and lift from the top right hand side of the screen - same area. I’m wondering perhaps maybe the glass is warped or not flat there anymore ? The first tempered screen protector lasted 6 months. All others after last no more than a week before lifting from that area. I’m using the same cases that I did before. Thanks.


Maybe Apple would consider this a defect, especially if there is no physical damage to the phone from drops or abuse.
Does the phone have a any signs of damage from drops or physical abuse?
Apple should have some kind of guideline for checking the front glass for flatness.
If you were to have them install one of their own protectors and it lifts and separates, that along with your documentation might convince them to repair your phone.
What a hassle though! :rolleyes:
 
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Fred Zed

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Maybe Apple would consider this a defect, especially if there is no physical damage to the phone from drops or abuse.
Does the phone have a any signs of damage from drops or physical abuse?
Apple should have some kind of guideline for checking the front glass for flatness.
If you were to have them install one of their own protectors and it lifts and separates, that along with your documentation might convince them to repair your phone.
What a hassle though! :rolleyes:
Some solid points mentioned. Thanks. No, there’s no physical damage or scuffs or marks whatsoever on the device. I’m leaning towards the fact that perhaps the iPhone glass itself is not completely flat in those areas that are effected. Like I said earlier. I’ve tried multiple different brands and the results after a week are the same. Even cleaned that area well with alcohol to make no oil or grease is under that region. First screen protector lasted 6 months without issue.
 

Fred Zed

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If multiple protectors have failed in the same area, that suggests that the phone's screen isn't perfectly flat, and may be distorted in that corner. Think back to the days of the 6-series and the "halos" around the perimeter of the screens due to the disparity between the curvature of the screen's edges, and the flat protector glass resulting in separation.

Otherwise, it might be something in the way the phone is held, or carried that is causing lifting?

They're not cheap, and it may be kind of silly to spend that much money on a protector, but a last resort would be to try one that uses a UV-cured liquid adhesive, like the Whitestone Dome.

Its liquid adhesive will do a better job of conforming to and filling uneven gaps than a static adhesive layer of a normal protector, and for something with extreme screen curvatures, like Samsung's phones, they were the better option.

I've installed a few, and the process isn't for the faint of heart, or ham-fisted, but really kind of neat.
I’m going to remove the current one and inspect the glass of the iPhone with a light and magnification to determine if the glass is delaminating on those areas. Thanks.
 

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Have you tried laying the phone face down on a flat surface screen side down without a screen protector on? Maybe the chassis itself is bent causing weird shaping of the glass.
 
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Fred Zed

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Have you tried laying the phone face down on a flat surface screen side down without a screen protector on? Maybe the chassis itself is bent causing weird shaping of the glass.
Good point. I’ll try that on a glass surface when I remove the current screen screen protector.
 

Fred Zed

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I just removed the current protector. Under heavy light and magnification and level test I couldn’t see or notice any issues with the iPhone frame or glass.

I’m leaning into thinking that perhaps it’s the adhesive especially because it is the same area and side where the original adhesive pull tab is located which seems to fail in that region.
 

Splitrail

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I just removed the current protector. Under heavy light and magnification and level test I couldn’t see or notice any issues with the iPhone frame or glass.

I’m leaning into thinking that perhaps it’s the adhesive especially because it is the same area and side where the original adhesive pull tab is located which seems to fail in that region.
Four different brands of protector with bad adhesive in the same area? :confused:
 
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arkitect

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I just removed the current protector. Under heavy light and magnification and level test I couldn’t see or notice any issues with the iPhone frame or glass.

I’m leaning into thinking that perhaps it’s the adhesive especially because it is the same area and side where the original adhesive pull tab is located which seems to fail in that region.
I'm still thinking it is not the screen protectors (as you've said yourself four 4 different brands) all failing in the same area?

This sounds like;
a.) A flaw in your iPhone's surface — so get it checked out by Apple;
b.) Personal usage habits. The way you handle the phone… how you pull it out of your pockets etc. Maybe even the case you are using.

I'd bet it is not the screen protectors failing from a manufacturing flaw. If they had all been from the same manufacturer then sure, maybe. Perhaps.

But Four manufacturers' products all failing at the same are?
 

Fred Zed

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I'm still thinking it is not the screen protectors (as you've said yourself four 4 different brands) all failing in the same area?

This sounds like;
a.) A flaw in your iPhone's surface — so get it checked out by Apple;
b.) Personal usage habits. The way you handle the phone… how you pull it out of your pockets etc. Maybe even the case you are using.

I'd bet it is not the screen protectors failing from a manufacturing flaw. If they had all been from the same manufacturer then sure, maybe. Perhaps.

But Four manufacturers' products all failing at the same are?
Indeed. Yes, this is the fifth one now. I’ll know after a week of this fails again or not.
 
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