TenFourFox is slooowwww want some cheese with that whine?

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I did all of the optimizations on my 867MHz 12" PowerBook and they've sped up TenFourFox considerably and have made browsing not so painfully slow. I appreciate eyoungren for his help and research, and for Cameron Kaiser for everything that he's done for us PowerPC lovers.

 

[Altemose]

I would agree with you if the site rendered incorrectly using Chrome on a Nexus 7.

Tablets sometimes load the desktop site.

 

[comda]

It Lagged like running minecraft on it and they Say you need a Modern machine to Run Minecraft... Pish posh

Are you using the original Video adapter thats on board to run tiger? i have that model but its only has 2mb VRAM. I want to get panther on it.

 

[eyoungren]

I'm just going to put this here since it's what I use at work…

Mac Pro 2.8Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
3GB Ram
1TB HD

TenFourFox Intel 17.

 

[redheeler]

I'm just going to put this here since it's what I use at work…

Mac Pro 2.8Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
3GB Ram
1TB HD

TenFourFox Intel 17.

There was an Intel version of TenFourFox? That I didn't know.

Anyway, here's the latest G3 build of TenFourFox running on my Quad-Core 27" 2010 iMac using Rosetta in Snow Leopard (which it dual-boots with Yosemite). Despite being supposedly intended for low-end G3 systems it is still much slower than actual Firefox due to the PowerPC emulation.

 

[eyoungren]

There was an Intel version of TenFourFox? That I didn't know.

Yep! At some point someone decided to port the code to Intel. Kaiser has stressed that he does NOT support this version at all and every time I mention that I'm probably the one Intel Mac in his server logs running 17 Intel I get asked why I'm using such an outdated browser and not Firefox itself.

The answer is because we are a newspaper and as such what we do is not something requiring security. We have a certain number of websites we visit and we aren't dealing with banking or anything like that. So, this suits me.

I also get to thumb my nose at Apple by saying "Hey! I'm running a PowerPC app on an Intel Mac with the latest version of OS X!"

If you want it, here's a link…
https://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/IntelBuild

Scroll down to Download and Installation.

 

[tevion5]

It Lagged like running minecraft on it and they Say you need a Modern machine to Run Minecraft... Pish posh

Less than 1FPS! Boy that must have been a real blast

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Are you using the original Video adapter thats on board to run tiger? i have that model but its only has 2mb VRAM. I want to get panther on it.

If you zoom in on the picture he provided, you can spot a Rage128 in the system profiler #vintagedetective

 

[Anonymous Freak]

It Lagged like running minecraft on it and they Say you need a Modern machine to Run Minecraft... Pish posh

How many mpf do you get? (Minutes per frame...)

 

[poiihy]

How many mpf do you get? (Minutes per frame...)

If you look in the screenshot it said 1fps so around that.

 

[LightBulbFun]

How many mpf do you get? (Minutes per frame...)

No kidding at some points it literally said 0FPS in the FPS counter LOL it lagged through every thing LOL even just panning around at the menu screen.

Im not sure if the Rage Pro works in tiger im fairly sure it dose since tiger has Rage Pro kexts and it worked in Panther IRC, But I dont have a DB15 Mointor or VGA adapter to test on board video.

 

[Cox Orange]

Well, I wish I could be as happy as you are all. But since 31.5.0 (maybe since 31.4.0 already) I can work for a while and then the RAM gets filled up more and more by TFFx (till 23MB is left and I have a 5GB memory file on HDD), the ibook G4 1,33GHz, 1,5GB RAM gets very hot and TFFx starts to beach ball more and more until I have to wait a minute, till it does for example type one letter of a text and then I wait 1 minute again, to see the next letter appear, all with beach balling in between.

I can however use other Apps. It is typical that I am again the only person who has that.
I have no-script and ad-block for a long time (also Foxy-Proxy) and I wish I had the time to read Erik's nice guide for optimisation, but I believe TFFx should be at least be usable without first applying tweaks (I don't mind it being a bit slow, if it was - but I mind, when it almost freezes).

What helps the situation is, shutting down TFFx (sometimes with opt+cmd+esc) and start it again.
I don't have this in Safari, FireFox or TFFx 24.7

Sigh. Guess, I have to live with it, since it seems to be only my problem.

PS: here is an error log attached https://www.dropbox.com/s/88m3rc6udg1d6cr/Analysis of „TenFourFox“.txt?dl=0

 

[eyoungren]

I'm on my phone at the moment so I will have to check the log later but what happens if you remove AdBlockPlus?

ABP has a big memory leak so I switched to BlueHell Firewall.

Also, you can avoid restarting. Go to about:memory and press the big button that says 'Minimize Memory Useage'.

 

[bunnspecial]

I teach on Wednesdays, and told my students at the beginning of the semester that I was going to use a different laptop every week. I've been able to keep it up, and think I have enough to last through the end of the semester.(or if not I'll haul my iMac G4 or my Cube in and set it up )

In any case, the Pismo came up for rotation today. It's primarily an OS 9 machine, but does have Tiger on it. Due to the encryption used on campus, I have to use a PCMCIA WiFi card and Tiger(that also means that I have to exclude iBook G3s from the rotation)

I'd really forgotten how painfully slow this computer is with TenFourFox. I'm really inclined to think that I may need to dig deeper, as it's actually slower than my Clamshell. It has a faster processor(500mhz vs. 366mhz), more RAM(1gb vs 576mb), faster ram(PC100 vs PC66) and better graphics. I may need to replace the hard drive(again) as something isn't right with it.

In any case, that computer really is painfully slow with TenFourFox, and really pretty much everything else . It regularly beachballs, and typing is laggy. I really don't have any complaints about TFF on my Clamshell, so I do think it's probably something system specific. In any case, I am at least going to take the time to optimize it, and hopefully things will pick up a little bit. I hate to spend as much as I spent on the computer on an SSD, but that may be in the future.

By the way, I got a lot of compliments today on the Pismo. It's still a head-turner, even at 15 years old. I wish Apple would make a black laptop again-the black Macbook is probably my all-time favorite Intel machine, and also always gets a lot of compliments when I'm using it in public.

 

[ziggy29]

Yes on the Pismo. I maxed the RAM and have a G4/550, and I can't part with it. Best engineering in a laptop pretty much ever. That it is still marginally useful 15 years later speaks volumes. I'm tempted to slap an SSD in it but I can't really justify the hundred bucks for it.

 

[Cox Orange]

I am using TFFx 24.7 now again and have no problems, my ibook does not heat up and make the fans blow all the time anymore and RAM doesn't get eaten up till there is nothing left.
As soon as I work with TFFx 31.5 again, I have all the slowyness, overheating and RAM problems again.

I mailed Cameron Kaiser my error log from activity monitor and he said he can't use that from activity monitor, because what stands in there can be misleading and I would have to install a developers version of TFFx and analyse it or something like that. He used the word shark tracing, I guess that is what is called finding the problem / analysing.