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Terabyte Hard Drive Useful?

Size-wise, this thing has the capability for nice data marts and data warehouses. I guess transferring between a couple of machines would be its limit. Its speed and reliability would not be good enough for an external storage device on a production database server.
 
wordmunger said:
Never say never. I can still remember my first hard drive--20 Megs (yes, I'm that old). I never thought I'd be able to fill that, and now 40 Gigs seems pretty tight--2000 times larger!
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ergh how old are you? you're making me feel old because I remember my friends 90 Mhz 486 with a whopping 500 MB HD...i don't remember the specs of my Mac L2 or whatever it was called (GS?), but the HD was only 70 MB, and I believe the ram was measured in Kb 😱 .

Claris Works rules.
 
I would buy 10 of them and download the internet so I could browse it offline....

On a serious unrelated note... are there any estimates at the size of the internet if you were to download it all, or how fast it's growing?
 
adamberti said:
I would buy 10 of them and download the internet so I could browse it offline....

On a serious unrelated note... are there any estimates at the size of the internet if you were to download it all, or how fast it's growing?
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Really big, and too fast. It's so big that you could never hope to store all of it even on a warehouse full of drives, and even if you had internet piped into your machine at a rate faster than any storage device could possibly record, you would fall behind immediately.
 
eyelikeart said:
I'm with u there. I'm preparing to get a set of 250's...one for backup & the other to double backup. 😀
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I've got a WD 8mb/250GB drive already, I'd love to pickup a second one along with a FW800 Raid enclosure...
 
howard said:
your gig per mp3 debate makes me wonder how many terabytes the itms is... say it gets up to 1,000,000 songs, which i bet it will in less than a year... thats like 10 terabytes...give or take.

how many xserves would that be?
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It's only 3 xServe RAID's. Not a large amount of storage compared to a lot of data centres, many of which have Peta bytes (1000 TB) of data.
 
briankonar said:
ergh how old are you? you're making me feel old because I remember my friends 90 Mhz 486 with a whopping 500 MB HD...i don't remember the specs of my Mac L2 or whatever it was called (GS?), but the HD was only 70 MB, and I believe the ram was measured in Kb 😱 .

Claris Works rules.
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Well, there are lots of people older than me. But not only can I remember my first hard drive, I can also remember getting my first *floppy* drive, to replace the tape recorder I had been using for my Commodore 64. Yep, 64K. I was a pretty important dude back then with 64K *and* a floppy drive!

But pretty soon we'll have people here telling us about punch cards and computers as big as closets with 512 bytes of memory, and walking to school barefoot in the snow (uphill both ways!). There's always someone older.
 
hmm... my first computer was IBM AT, i think? i don't even know how big the HD was... i do remember DOS taking rather long time to boot up. i could turn it on, go downstairs to grab some snack, then come back just in time to see the command prompt...

i do remember that my second computer in college was a Gateway with 100 MHz CPU and 100 MB HD. and i remember thinking how would i ever fill that much space up!

now i have two 40 GB HDs and i "only" have 20 GB or so free.
 
jxyama said:
hmm... my first computer was IBM AT, i think? i don't even know how big the HD was... i do remember DOS taking rather long time to boot up. i could turn it on, go downstairs to grab some snack, then come back just in time to see the command prompt...

i do remember that my second computer in college was a Gateway with 100 MHz CPU and 100 MB HD. and i remember thinking how would i ever fill that much space up!

now i have two 40 GB HDs and i "only" have 20 GB or so free.
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But, applications grew quickly to fill the drive capacity. There seems to be slowing down of the size of applications and the number that people actually "need". Sure, someone will always want to have eleventyfive programs on his/her computer, but the market doesn't seem to need a terabyte right now. Most people will not come close to the capacity of a 60GB drive.
 
The internet is not as 'big' as one can think it is...

First, Google has a cache of a lot of the pages. I dont know how big it is but my guess is that its not THAT big... Now add the files... Last time I checked, there was about 10TB on the eDonkey network. Now multiply this by let say 10 (?) and you are still under a petabyte... And if you zip it all, you would probably gain a few TB...

I cant check these number right now (at work) but I am prety sure the whole internet is bellow a TB. Of course this number doesn tinclude corporate network. And if you remove the porn, you can probably divide it by a factor of 2-3...
 
I just found this article:
Here
Its two years old and says that at the time, the web was about 19TB 'on the surface' and the deep web was around 7500TB. The deep web include all the data in database. So I guess I was wrong but at the same time I would like to see confirmation of these numbers, and of course more recent ones which would include P2P network.

Anyone cares to search? I have googled away but couldnt find anything recent. They only give number of user and number of web pages/ sites...
 
Mantat said:
I just found this article:
Here
Its two years old and says that at the time, the web was about 19TB 'on the surface' and the deep web was around 7500TB. The deep web include all the data in database. So I guess I was wrong but at the same time I would like to see confirmation of these numbers, and of course more recent ones which would include P2P network.

Anyone cares to search? I have googled away but couldnt find anything recent. They only give number of user and number of web pages/ sites...
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Good work! I searched for about 15 minutes but couldn't find anything better than that. I think you can bet it has at least doubled since then.
 
Fundamental truths...

One of the fundamental truths of business management is that the scope of any project will expand to fill the time available to complete it.

One of the fundamental truths of Microsoft operating systems is that they will expand in size to fill the amount of hard drive space available to contain them. I hear the next release of Windows will require a minumum of 975-gigs of free hard drive space for a basic installation. And their daily "security updates" will be about 10-gigs each. 😀

Remember those old Commodore PET cassette tape drives? How the computer could pause/unpause them all by itself? Now that was some wild modern technology, wasn't it?
 
wordmunger said:
Good work! I searched for about 15 minutes but couldn't find anything better than that. I think you can bet it has at least doubled since then.
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Counting the P2P networkis i'd say times ten at least... Just connect with a random P2P app and see the status bar. Without a doubt in no time it will say 950GB or something
 
iRobert said:
Counting the P2P networkis i'd say times ten at least... Just connect with a random P2P app and see the status bar. Without a doubt in no time it will say 950GB or something
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950GB still fit on a single 1TB drive... ;-)

Also, a lot of the content on the P2P network is overlaping. If 10 users share the lattest version of open office, it will count as 10x the size of the file. So you have to take the data with care. Sure there is a lot of files, but not as much as they want you to believe. Dont forget that their main 'selling' pitch is the size of their network, so they will do as much as they can to make it soun big.

I still havent found the info. I think I am going to see a professor at the university this diner and suggest him to have a master student do a thesis on that.
 
stoid said:
5GB = 1,000 songs
50GB = 10,000 songs
500GB = 100,000 songs
1,000GB = 200,000 songs

Looks like we're both wrong. 😱

Also, I think that the 40GB - 10,000 songs is based on aac encoding. In your first post you specifically said mp3s, so you would have to go with the 5GB -1,000 mp3 reference. 😉
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I need to concur with Stoid. The iPod Mini (4GB) holds 1000 songs which projects out to 250000 mp3s.

However, I must add, that anyone who has 250000 mp3s should start their own online music store and compete with Apple, Sony, Napster, Microsoft, etc. (after negotiating all of the legal deals with labels, artists, etc. of course). 😀
 
jxyama said:
i think it's a bit too much data in one physical place...
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heh. . . i remeber when i first saw a computer with a 1GB HD thinking that was rediculously large and there is no need for it ever. . . give it some time, we will eventually see 1TB spinning silenetly on a 1" drive in our powerbook G7s. and we will all be complaining for more space b/c the pictures on our 5 GIGApixel cameras are taking up tooo much space.
 
wPod said:
heh. . . i remeber when i first saw a computer with a 1GB HD thinking that was rediculously large and there is no need for it ever. . . give it some time, we will eventually see 1TB spinning silenetly on a 1" drive in our powerbook G7s. and we will all be complaining for more space b/c the pictures on our 5 GIGApixel cameras are taking up tooo much space.
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SATISFACTION ... kinda like tomorrow ... a plateau that can never be reached.
 
what do you need a terebyte for? raw video editing and soudtracking.... 😀

a G5 and a few of those and i'd never leave my house ever again. 😉


peace.
 
wordmunger said:
Never say never. I can still remember my first hard drive--20 Megs (yes, I'm that old). I never thought I'd be able to fill that, and now 40 Gigs seems pretty tight--2000 times larger!
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20Mb wow but I remember the 5.1/2 inc full hight 10Mb arriving at the workshop🙂

The power supply was bigger than the terrabyte drive!

Viv
 
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