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Tesla cars are cool, but I can't help but think a vehicle lugging huge heavy batteries is not very Tesla-like. Nicola would have beamed power to the car wirelessly for sure :D
 
If you are looking for a company to invest in, Tesla would be a very good pick. This is a serious car company - a world leader in a world where the U.S. does not lead in much any more. Buy some stock now is my advice. :cool:
 
If you are looking for a company to invest in, Tesla would be a very good pick. This is a serious car company - a world leader in a world where the U.S. does not lead in much any more. Buy some stock now is my advice. :cool:

Just know that so far it is a nervous stock like Apple in that they both attract shorts who sell whenever they feel faint or have an attack of the vapors.

Controversally, not sure there should be an option for investors to make money on failure or especially to create failure by investment schemes and manipulations. More helpful would be to invest in a company, or not. Make money if the company prospers, lose if it fails.
 
Tesla + Apple = iCar

to be followed by iCar Mini, iCar Air, and iCar Pro

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Please god, no.

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Serious Part - http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/11/10/tesla-accident-fire/3488405/. At least I haven't heard of iPhones catching on fire.

The problem with those stories is that Tesla sells many cars. And things DO go wrong with cars. But you or anyone else doesn't post about other cars that catch on fire more frequently? Are Tesla cars somehow supposed to be indestructible? Do you hold other manufacturers to the same standard? Were you surprised about a couple of McLaren F1's being totalled... ???

Its getting really annoying how the media is just TRYING to have Tesla fail. The cars are built like a tank and yet everyone downplays their GREAT quality.
 
Please god, no.

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The problem with those stories is that Tesla sells many cars. And things DO go wrong with cars. But you or anyone else doesn't post about other cars that catch on fire more frequently? Are Tesla cars somehow supposed to be indestructible? Do you hold other manufacturers to the same standard? Were you surprised about a couple of McLaren F1's being totalled... ???

Its getting really annoying how the media is just TRYING to have Tesla fail. The cars are built like a tank and yet everyone downplays their GREAT quality.

I remember back when all the news reports of accidents would emphasis the role of "foreign" cars, sports cars and the like. Now it is Tesla's turn. Recently a Tesla driver fell asleep and killed a bicyclist and every story threw in the name Tesla at every opportunity.

Actually, I think news people know that Teslas are interesting to people and throw in the name when they can to generate readership. I am a Tesla fan, but I would have used the fire stories as well. That is interesting to people.

Of course it caused simultaneous menstrual periods amongst anal-ists, but that is just the way they are.
 
Please god, no.

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The problem with those stories is that Tesla sells many cars. And things DO go wrong with cars. But you or anyone else doesn't post about other cars that catch on fire more frequently? Are Tesla cars somehow supposed to be indestructible? Do you hold other manufacturers to the same standard? Were you surprised about a couple of McLaren F1's being totalled... ???

Its getting really annoying how the media is just TRYING to have Tesla fail. The cars are built like a tank and yet everyone downplays their GREAT quality.

Kinda like after Steve Jobs' death, the media was trying soooooo hard to make Apple look like a washed-out failure? They so desperately wanted Apple to fail? Desperately wanted CEO Tim "He's No Steve Jobs" Cook to fail? Desperately wanted to short AAPL stock?

Here's some perspective.

Tesla and Apple do have some things in common as brand entities. They have both been regarded as cutting-edge "luxury brands" and over-hyped to a certain degree. Hence, the unwashed masses and the backstabbing media will set very high bars of standards for them. Should these companies make tiny little mistakes, they will be crucified publicly by the media and the hordes. Any backlash and criticism will be unforgiving. Any little mistakes made by these companies WILL BE OVERBLOWN as epic failures.

But in the end, you are right. Tesla makes enough cars that eventually some of them will perform imperfectly. Some things will go wrong. Just like Apple ships bazillions of iDevices every year, eventually some of them will come with defects here and there.
 
The problem with those stories is that Tesla sells many cars. And things DO go wrong with cars. But you or anyone else doesn't post about other cars that catch on fire more frequently? Are Tesla cars somehow supposed to be indestructible? Do you hold other manufacturers to the same standard? Were you surprised about a couple of McLaren F1's being totalled... ???

Its getting really annoying how the media is just TRYING to have Tesla fail. The cars are built like a tank and yet everyone downplays their GREAT quality.

Agreed. In the most recent fire incident, the car detected a problem and instructed the driver to pull over asap and that the car was shutting down. Driver was safely out of vehicle before fire started. Driver has nothing but praise for the Tesla and says he'd buy another one in a heartbeat. See.. http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/model-s-owner-tennessee

This is the kind of customer brand loyalty that Tesla is building through a superior customer experience. Not unlike our friends at Apple have managed to do.
 
Minor correction: Considering the pillaging of earth necessary to get rare earth metals for Tesla's batteries, it'll be at least 5 years for electric to truly be more efficient. I will take Cheap Hybrids for $24000, Alex.

The previous poster had a good point. Which would be better for the planet**?
For everybody to drive a hybrid at 1/3 the price of a Tesla
putting $20k more into a solar panel roof system
putting more money into energy efficient home lighting/heating system
getting a Macbook air, iPad, and iPhone
and putting more money in savings

Or,
For everybody to get a Tesla while
charging from a coal-power plant-fueled home outlet
and having no money for solar panels or energy efficient home lighting/heating system
having to get a Dell Chromebook and Windows Phone
and having no savings left...

The environmental value proposition for Tesla is really quite bad. I'd rather have really awesome VPs stay at Apple or work for another company that will positively change the world.
** Assuming the world could afford that stuff and I personally cannot

Awesome, I'm helping out with the environment with my MBA apparently. :confused:
 
Minor correction: Considering the pillaging of earth necessary to get rare earth metals for Tesla's batteries, it'll be at least 5 years for electric to truly be more efficient. I will take Cheap Hybrids for $24000, Alex.

The previous poster had a good point. Which would be better for the planet**?
For everybody to drive a hybrid at 1/3 the price of a Tesla
putting $20k more into a solar panel roof system
putting more money into energy efficient home lighting/heating system
getting a Macbook air, iPad, and iPhone
and putting more money in savings

Or,
For everybody to get a Tesla while
charging from a coal-power plant-fueled home outlet
and having no money for solar panels or energy efficient home lighting/heating system
having to get a Dell Chromebook and Windows Phone
and having no savings left...

The environmental value proposition for Tesla is really quite bad. I'd rather have really awesome VPs stay at Apple or work for another company that will positively change the world.
** Assuming the world could afford that stuff and I personally cannot


Or just buy a diesel which are much more fuel efficient than hybrids.
 
The new Tesla will 0,01 mm thinner and 0,1 gram lighter and it will be the best Tesla ever made

~ Sounds familiar :)
 
All the other fuel solutions are just interim solutions to electric. Still, makers of gas and diesel equipment aren't giving up and will push their technologies to compete for years to come. That is ok. It is beneficial for all of us and makes electric car manufacturers have to work harder too.

In the end this competition will result in really great electrical vehicles and certainly we couldn't switch over to electric right away anyway as there just isn't the electrical infrastructure to support hundreds of millions of electrical vehicles around the world right now.
 
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If you are looking for a company to invest in, Tesla would be a very good pick. This is a serious car company - a world leader in a world where the U.S. does not lead in much any more. Buy some stock now is my advice. :cool:

Backed by a never ending stream of O-Cash thanks to your neighborly taxpayer Tesla is here to stay.
 
I remember back when all the news reports of accidents would emphasis the role of "foreign" cars, sports cars and the like. Now it is Tesla's turn. Recently a Tesla driver fell asleep and killed a bicyclist and every story threw in the name Tesla at every opportunity.

Actually, I think news people know that Teslas are interesting to people and throw in the name when they can to generate readership. I am a Tesla fan, but I would have used the fire stories as well. That is interesting to people.

Of course it caused simultaneous menstrual periods amongst anal-ists, but that is just the way they are.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/tesla-model-s-fire-nhtsa-investigation/

Tesla's doing a fantastic job....
 
Backed by a never ending stream of O-Cash thanks to your neighborly taxpayer Tesla is here to stay.
Seriously, you could at least read the thread before spewing idiocy.

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Joke Part - Now the Tesla will say low battery and power off at 50% charge, just like my iPhone.

Serious Part - http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/11/10/tesla-accident-fire/3488405/. At least I haven't heard of iPhones catching on fire.

First of all, there's been plenty of stupid press about iPhones catching on fire. So, apparently you weren't around for that.

Second, why don't you add up how many deaths there have been from Tesla cars on fire, then add up how many from gasoline cars. Make a percentage, and decide which is safer.

Third, if you actually care about all this and aren't just spewing stupidity, look up Tesla's battery tech and compare it to other lithium battery tech, in all current phones, laptops, etc. See which one YOU think is safer, since your opinion is so important.
 
Here's a comment that rings true.

" A California-based solar company backed by several Obama supporters has been receiving millions in federal tax credits while losing $322 million since 2008, raising concerns about the company “becoming the next Solyndra.”

Among SolarCity Corp.’s biggest investors is Elon Musk -- the high-profile donor and fundraiser who co-founded PayPal and whose companies SpaceX and electric-car company Tesla Motors have received at least $846 million in loans and startup money from the Obama administration."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...credits-linked-to-obama-donors-could-be-next/

And

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78241260/
 
Here's a comment that rings true.

" A California-based solar company backed by several Obama supporters has been receiving millions in federal tax credits while losing $322 million since 2008, raising concerns about the company “becoming the next Solyndra.”

Among SolarCity Corp.’s biggest investors is Elon Musk -- the high-profile donor and fundraiser who co-founded PayPal and whose companies SpaceX and electric-car company Tesla Motors have received at least $846 million in loans and startup money from the Obama administration."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...credits-linked-to-obama-donors-could-be-next/

And

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78241260/

I am not particularly sure how I feel about Elon Musk, but he does kind of rub me the wrong way. I think Tesla will actually be important in the mid 2020s when they sell electric cars at a manageable price point. Then we can seriously talk about a "MacTesla". Until then, Teslas are not practical.
 
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