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Tether to iPhone using NetShare App?

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KCWolfPck

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So, is there any speculation about how data will be received? Obviously WiFi will be one way. I don't want to pay AT&T for data for another device.

Any idea if it will be possible to set the network settings in order to tether to the iPhone using the NetShare application similar to how I tether my MacBook?

Thanks.
 
Wait, you can tether you iPhone to your Laptop with an App, without having to pay AT&T more money? Please inform me, because that is something I could use!
 
Now that the iPad has been announced, I'm bumping this thread. Anyone have any clue if the NetShare app will work with this assuming this has the same network settings as the iPhone/iPod Touch? Apparently the device needs to support SOCKS proxy or something. Any ideas?
 
Chances are no...... If the iPad has same network settings structure as iPhone and we can assume it does (operating system same) then you will not have access to those extra settings.
 
So is the iPad going to require some sort of jailbreaking in order to get at more open features such as network sharing?
 
No, if the iphone is jailbroken it may be possible to do it. Either way one of the devices will be jailbreak'd...
 
NetShare

I don't think it will work because it utilizes a SOCKS proxy and you will not be able to make the settings on an iPad that you can on your MacBook/Pro. Not sure how you could setup and designate the IP address settings, etc. so that the iPhone can share them. Hopefully, someone smarter than I will figure it out as I would love to be wrong on this one!! (I have the app, too).
 
I've been reading about MyWi, but you have to jailbreak your phone. It converts your iPhone into a router. The iPad picks up the connection as a regular Wifi connection. I've not tried it (no iPad obviously) but I am going to give it a go. The MyWi software is $10.
 
MyWi works great and will save you a bundle if you already have an iPhone. Think about it $130 instant saving on not buying the 3G model followed by $30 a month every month after.. That'll quickly add up.
 
yaroldb said:
I've been reading about MyWi, but you have to jailbreak your phone. It converts your iPhone into a router. The iPad picks up the connection as a regular Wifi connection. I've not tried it (no iPad obviously) but I am going to give it a go. The MyWi software is $10.
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This is correct, and it works. The downside is the battery drain is huge. Even plugged into a charger your battery level will drop, but for an hour or so it's a great option. This is a Cydia app so you do in fact have to jailbreak your iPhone, which with the latest blackrain hack it takes about 5m and very, very simple to do.

The iPhone forums here on MR have plenty of threads on how to do it.
 
MacRumorUser said:
Chances are no...... If the iPad has same network settings structure as iPhone and we can assume it does (operating system same) then you will not have access to those extra settings.
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I'm confused by this comment. I'm one of the people lucky enough to have bought NetShare in the short window it was available.

Since NetShare ports the data from the 3G/EDGE connection to the wi-fi there's no reason to think it would be any different from the iPhone in the way it works. The iPhone OS never locked out the ability to use NetShare after it was pulled then it should still work as it always has.

You set up NetShare and then connect your computer to the iPad via a SOCKS5 proxy. I'll be sure to try it when I get my 3G but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
 
avaloncourt said:
I'm confused by this comment. I'm one of the people lucky enough to have bought NetShare in the short window it was available.

Since NetShare ports the data from the 3G/EDGE connection to the wi-fi there's no reason to think it would be any different from the iPhone in the way it works. The iPhone OS never locked out the ability to use NetShare after it was pulled then it should still work as it always has.

You set up NetShare and then connect your computer to the iPad via a SOCKS5 proxy. I'll be sure to try it when I get my 3G but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
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Yes, I think NetShare may work to tether to a pc on the iPad 3G, but the OP was asking whether NetShare on the iPhone could tether the iPad from an iPhone (hence only buying the wifi iPad), which it won't.
 
Sorry, I misread that originally as doing the iPhone tether.

The short answer is yes. Back when the iPad models were announced I searched around and found the answer. You have to be able to get the iPad to connect to a SOCKS5 proxy. It can be done but not directly. There are explanations online about how to connect the iPhone to a SOCKS proxy. The same instruction set applies here. You have to create a configuration file to trigger the mode from the iPad. It is capable of SOCKS.

It's not for the faint of heart but it is possible. Once you have the configuration set up it will work easily after that. It's just getting to that point that will be taxing.

I originally considered doing this until it was released that only the 3G model had GPS. That was a must have in my case.
 
avaloncourt said:
Sorry, I misread that originally as doing the iPhone tether.

The short answer is yes. Back when the iPad models were announced I searched around and found the answer. You have to be able to get the iPad to connect to a SOCKS5 proxy. It can be done but not directly. There are explanations online about how to connect the iPhone to a SOCKS proxy. The same instruction set applies here. You have to create a configuration file to trigger the mode from the iPad. It is capable of SOCKS.

It's not for the faint of heart but it is possible. Once you have the configuration set up it will work easily after that. It's just getting to that point that will be taxing.

I originally considered doing this until it was released that only the 3G model had GPS. That was a must have in my case.
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I'm not sure if I follow you here. Are you saying that it is possible to tether the iPad from an iPhone/iPad3G running NetShare?
 
I was under the impression that NetShare needs you to create a network on the device you want to share to. That will be impossible on the iPad.

However, using MyWi you should be good.
 
Hands Sandon said:
I'm not sure if I follow you here. Are you saying that it is possible to tether the iPad from an iPhone/iPad3G running NetShare?
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Yes, as I said, if you Google connecting to a SOCKS proxy with the iPhone you'll come up with the instructions but as I said it's not a direct or simple process. Since the iPhone can do it the iPad can do it as well. There is a procedure you have to follow to make it happen. The average person won't even attempt it because it's not pushing a button to make it happen but it is possible. The instructions are readily available online if someone wants to do it.
 
melman101 said:
I was under the impression that NetShare needs you to create a network on the device you want to share to. That will be impossible on the iPad.

However, using MyWi you should be good.
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NetShare just presents itself as a wi-fi network that needs to be connected by a SOCKS connection. There's nothing special about it. You define in NetShare what the IP address and net mask are. That's all manual. Then you define on the connecting device its IP and where it's connecting. It's just like manually connecting by defining an IP address to any access point with the exception of requiring a SOCKS layer in the connection. The instructions are available online for connecting an iPhone to a SOCKS connection.

The problem exists that it is not a push-button solution and hardly anyone got to buy NetShare before it was pulled so the interest in this will be low since it won't apply to most everyone.
 
avaloncourt said:
NetShare just presents itself as a wi-fi network that needs to be connected by a SOCKS connection. There's nothing special about it. You define in NetShare what the IP address and net mask are. That's all manual. Then you define on the connecting device its IP and where it's connecting. It's just like manually connecting by defining an IP address to any access point with the exception of requiring a SOCKS layer in the connection. The instructions are available online for connecting an iPhone to a SOCKS connection.
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I hope you are correct though I've been using Netshare from day one and I do not see how you will be able to make the settings you need on the iPad that you can make on a MacBook/Pro. You will need to setup up the network on the iPad first so the iPhone (running Netshare) can find it, and connect to it. On a MacBook/Pro, you can input all these settings in System Prefs/Network & create a network so the iPhone can then find it when you fire up Netshare.
 
I got past the issue creating the ad-hoc network by using a mbpro to create the network. Check this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9599452

Obviously it's less than ideal to need a mbpro or other device to first create the ad-hoc network, but i did get them all connected to the same wifi network.

Setting the proxy settings in the ipad config does not seem to work though. I will see if I can find the instructions referred to in this thread.

-Josh
 
jeeosh said:
I got past the issue creating the ad-hoc network by using a mbpro to create the network. Check this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9599452

Obviously it's less than ideal to need a mbpro or other device to first create the ad-hoc network, but i did get them all connected to the same wifi network.

Setting the proxy settings in the ipad config does not seem to work though. I will see if I can find the instructions referred to in this thread.

-Josh
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Josh, that's cool but impractical like you say. I wonder if at some point when the iPad can be jailbroken, if it will be possible to tether it to a un-broken iPhone? It seems if you could create the network at the iPad end, then the Netshare app on the iPhone could complete the link as it does now with a MacBook, etc.
 
The first thing I'm trying tomorrow is NetShare. Oh, August 1st 2008 was a special night indeed. I got it at the first offering, so I guess I have the collectors edition or something.
 
As I said in my comment that you can not do it. But was seemingly shot down by folks not understanding my comment.

The iPhone and iPad provide the user only very basic control over their network settings. That is you can not go in and set up things like socks proxies etc on either device. You need this facility at least on the iPad in order for netshare to work. You also need to be able to create a network, and likewise you can not do this.

Therefore even though you setup Netshare on your iPhone, you can not create the network for the iPhone to join as you would do on the Mac.

Even if you create a network on say a Mac, setup socks proxy and start the netshare app on your iPhone, then let the iPad join the same network your Mac created, it does not work. If you load safari it can not do anything because you can't change it's settings to a socks proxy on the iPad.

So no it does not work.

Oh and yes I have the netshare application, and yes I have a 64gb iPad.
 
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