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stanw

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I'm an Android user and would like to get the new 5.5 inch iPhone, though I need to be able to use my unlimited data with Verizon to tether to my laptop.

1. Will there be a JB for the new iPhone. I read somewhere that Apple did something to prevent the new iPhones from being JB?

2. How does tethering work on a JB iPhone with the current version of iOS? Are you able to completely tether your data to any device?

3. Is there anything that Apple or Verizon can do to prevent you from tethering after JB an iPhone? I know it breaks their TOS and they can technically do something, though is there any stronger likilehood of them doing so vs. tethering with an Android? In other words, is there anything built into iOS that will enable them to catch you or stop you more easily?

Thanks!
 

Applejuiced

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Apr 16, 2008
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At the iPhone hacks section.
1. Most likely there will be a JB down the road. It could take many months though so without the JB you cannot tether for free.
2. Tethering works fine on JB devices with unlimited data. You can enable the stock personal hotspot or use various other programs to tether via wifi, usb or bluetooth.
3. Starting October 1st Verizon will start throttling their unlimited data users.
Once you reach 4.7GB then you are slowed down for up to 2 billing cycles.
Besides that dont know if they will take any other measures like going after unofficial tethering and kicking people off unlimited data for bypassing their TOS.
We will have to wait and see.
 

stanw

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I was told by a VZW store manager that you only get throttled when you are in the location of a cell tower that is being heavily used (like during a football game) and after you are no longer in that area, you are no longer throttled. He didn’t say anything about “2 billing cycles” beyond that.

1. Are you sure about the 2 billing cycle penalty?
2. Does Verizon have a way of knowing if you JB and are tethering?
3. Have people in the past received warnings by VZW when they JB and tether or do they just get cut off or are you not sure?

Thanks.
 

Applejuiced

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Apr 16, 2008
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At the iPhone hacks section.
I was told by a VZW store manager that you only get throttled when you are in the location of a cell tower that is being heavily used (like during a football game) and after you are no longer in that area, you are no longer throttled. He didn’t say anything about “2 billing cycles” beyond that.

1. Are you sure about the 2 billing cycle penalty?
2. Does Verizon have a way of knowing if you JB and are tethering?
3. Have people in the past received warnings by VZW when they JB and tether or do they just get cut off or are you not sure?

Thanks.

We wont know how they will do till its done to many many people.
They say they will throttle users only on busy towers but how are we to really know if a tower is busy or not or if most of their towers are considered busy by their standards and you end up throttled everywhere. Verizon is very sneaky and just cares about making more profits while shafting its customers so Im not surprised by their moves.
I read about the 2 billing cycle throttle period online and the 4.7GB cap so again we wont be 100% till they start doing it massively and get results and feedback from many users.

2. Im not sure if they can tell you're JB but many carriers can look in your data packets and tell if you're using the data on the phone or if you tethering unofficial to other devices. AT&T and Tmobile have been able to tell for years and there's nothing that you can do to hide it.

3. As far as I know I never heard of anyone getting messages or getting cut off from verizon about unofficial tethering and many have been tethering huge amounts of data like 60-70GB or more per month. Some using the phone as their sole internet connection without paying for home internet.
So again we will have to wait and see how it plays out within 3-4 weeks and people start going over their 4.7GB amount of data.
 

HankHowdy

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Dec 2, 2012
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We wont know how they will do till its done to many many people.
They say they will throttle users only on busy towers but how are we to really know if a tower is busy or not or if most of their towers are considered busy by their standards and you end up throttled everywhere. Verizon is very sneaky and just cares about making more profits while shafting its customers so Im not surprised by their moves.
I read about the 2 billing cycle throttle period online and the 4.7GB cap so again we wont be 100% till they start doing it massively and get results and feedback from many users.

2. Im not sure if they can tell you're JB but many carriers can look in your data packets and tell if you're using the data on the phone or if you tethering unofficial to other devices. AT&T and Tmobile have been able to tell for years and there's nothing that you can do to hide it.

3. As far as I know I never heard of anyone getting messages or getting cut off from verizon about unofficial tethering and many have been tethering huge amounts of data like 60-70GB or more per month. Some using the phone as their sole internet connection without paying for home internet.
So again we will have to wait and see how it plays out within 3-4 weeks and people start going over their 4.7GB amount of data.


After talking to a couple of verizon techs they said the top 5 % is not 4.7gigs or more.

I have Verizon UD and use 20-30 gigs a month and they have all told me that I'm no where near the top 5%

Boy I hope I'm not.

I used to use the Tweak TetherMe for tethering, but now use a hacked carrier bundle that has it built in. It also increases XLTE speed threshold.


In my experience Verizon could car less if you tether with your UD plan. I have never be called out on it.

I plan on never to lose it until they make it unbearable. Only time will tell.

I purchased my 5S at full price to keep it and plan on buying the 6S as well.
 

Applejuiced

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Apr 16, 2008
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At the iPhone hacks section.
After talking to a couple of verizon techs they said the top 5 % is not 4.7gigs or more.

I have Verizon UD and use 20-30 gigs a month and they have all told me that I'm no where near the top 5%

Boy I hope I'm not.

I used to use the Tweak TetherMe for tethering, but now use a hacked carrier bundle that has it built in. It also increases XLTE speed threshold.


In my experience Verizon could car less if you tether with your UD plan. I have never be called out on it.

I plan on never to lose it until they make it unbearable. Only time will tell.

I purchased my 5S at full price to keep it and plan on buying the 6S as well.

Lol:D
Ok, believe what you want then. 4.7GB is posted by verizon themselves as being the top 5%.
Here's the info posted on verizons website if you still buy the bs those verizon techs told you.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure.html
You use an average of 20-30GB of data and they told you you're nowhere near the 5%? :D Let me laugh again.

Here's plenty more info:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...cy-lte-customers-unlimited-data-pl/2014-07-25
http://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-4g-lte-users-to-be-subject-to-network-optimization-report-says/
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/24/verizon-network-optimization-throttling-unlimited-lte/
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/technology/is-unlimited-data-really-unlimited.html/?a=viewall
 

HankHowdy

macrumors 68040
Dec 2, 2012
3,501
392
Victorville CA
Lol:D

Ok, believe what you want then. 4.7GB is posted by verizon themselves as being the top 5%.

Here's the info posted on verizons website if you still buy the bs those verizon techs told you.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure.html

You use an average of 20-30GB of data and they told you you're nowhere near the 5%? :D Let me laugh again.



Here's plenty more info:

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...cy-lte-customers-unlimited-data-pl/2014-07-25

http://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-4g-lte-users-to-be-subject-to-network-optimization-report-says/

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/24/verizon-network-optimization-throttling-unlimited-lte/

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/technology/is-unlimited-data-really-unlimited.html/?a=viewall


Wow, you don't have to mean about it.
 

alkalifly

macrumors regular
Apr 13, 2004
183
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I purchased my 5S at full price to keep it and plan on buying the 6S as well.

Just out of curiosity, how much money are you actually saving in the end? If you are buying a phone at full price every two years, that's gotta be somewhere around $200/year compared to buying on contract. How much more would a 30GB plan cost after a year than your current unlimited plan does?
 
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