Texas wants to ban Vista

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  1. winterdude010 macrumors regular

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  2. GimmeSlack12 macrumors 603

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    Hasn't this horse already been beat to death enough. I mean, it's not thaaat bad.
     
  3. FX120 macrumors 65816

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    Wow.

    The new owners at work just built 20 new workstations, all running Vista x64, and the new owner is a big Mac nut who up untill now has only bought Apple computers, and even he has admitted that it isn't awful like everyone says it is.
     
  4. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    But bad enough to ban from government use in an entire state? ;)
     
  5. thomahawk macrumors 6502a

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    wtf.. windows vista isnt that bad. people who say its useless and full of junk, its not. its a great OS just has a things here and there but its not horrible
     
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    Now that's a ringing endorsement!
     
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    I tried it on a friend's laptop and just thought it felt too slow. Its just another PITA just like every version of Windows, nothing special. I think the biggest problem is the people who have been using XP for the last 8 years just don't want to give up what they're used to. I mean come on! Who doesn't want to run an OS from 2001 on a computer built in 2009?
     
  10. thomahawk macrumors 6502a

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    uhhh... *slowly raises hand* me?

    i gots windows xp 64-bit edition its much better. and vista 64bit is also a great OS. the place everybody has so much problems with vista is cuz they are all a 32-bit OS theres lots of problems with 32bit windows OS but 64 is super fly!
     
  11. localoid macrumors 68020

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    Speaking of our elected idiots in charge...

    In related news:

    West Virginia legislator wants to ban Barbie dolls

    Delegate Jeff Eldridge, a democrat from Lincoln County, believes such toys influence girls to place too much importance on their physical beauty, at the expense of their emotional and intellectual development.

    Standing ovation for Eldridge


    Will Macs be banned next (due to too much importance on their physical beauty at the expense of performance)?
     
  12. winninganthem macrumors 6502a

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    Eh, Macs rely on elegant software design for performance rather than beastly hardware.
     
  13. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    When you get a job, you will discover that Macs are banned or effectively so in many workplaces.
     
  14. clevin macrumors G3

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    right, not beastly hardware.... did you find any current mac sold by apple with less than 2GB memory?

    what a bunch of lies.
     
  15. tubbymac macrumors 65816

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    I don't hate Vista or anything but this is hilarious. I would actually love to see something like that implemented, just to know if it could work in practice.
     
  16. FF_productions macrumors 68030

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    Vista isn't that bad at all, been using it for over a year, that's so extreme and naive to say it's a bad OS. It started real bad, and coupled with some Mac ads, it gave Vista a horrible reputation when it really isn't the case.

    Hence why MS wants to push Windows 7 as quickly as possible and jab Apple right in the face.
     
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    The loss in productivity is probably equates to enough to bail out the country. :p
     
  19. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Nonsense. Vista had a bad conception. It had a bad gestation. It had a bad birth. It's having a bad life. It will have an ignoble death. Mac users still represent fewer than 10% of computer users. We had nothing to do with Vista's problems. Stop making excuses and accept the truth.
     
  20. Mattaut macrumors regular

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    People are saying it's not that bad and all this stuff, and maybe thats true, but shouldn't the newest version of any OS be ****ing amazing? Shouldn't it be drawing people in to buy it? Yeah it's not that bad, but when you are a major company like Windows you are expected to produce mind blowing products, not mediocre products. Especially since the latest Mac OS is a huge upgrade from the last one(nobody has said they would rather use Tiger than Leopard) and I'm pretty psyched for snow leopard too.

    Though banning the use of an OS is pretty ridiculous and a waste of time and money...
     
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    Err, not exactly. The major OSes have hit a certain maturity level, where each new version isn't really going to have amazing new features. Apple has even said Snow Leopard isn't going to have many shiny new features. It's a tweak of Leopard. As far as Tiger and Leopard, I use both on daily basis, and I really don't have a preference. I just don't think it is that big of a difference between the two.

    This Texas legislator is an idiot. How about leaving such decisions to people who actually know what they are doing, ok? What does he want to do, have the entire state continue to run XP forever? Yeah, let me know how that works for you when Microsoft drops support for it.

    One of the biggest problems with Vista is actually the bad rep it has gotten. Though poorly marketed, Microsoft's "Mojave" tests showed this. When people didn't know they were using Vista, they thought it was a great OS. When told it was Vista, they were surprised, because they had pre-formed opinions about Vista. The problem started early in its development, with the constant delays. Then MS promised great changes, including an entirely new file system, most of which ended up getting scrapped just go get the thing out the door.
     
  22. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Keep making excuses. Microsoft's last true retail success in operating systems was Windows 95. Windows 98 was a genuine improvement, but it was not the retail success that Win 95 was. We all know that the follow-up Windows Me was an unmitigated disaster. In this sense, the disaster that is Vista is not new.

    The larger issue is that for more than a decade now, Microsoft has over-promised and under-produced in the OS market. Go back to Windows 95. Microsoft called it Windows without DOS. The facts were the exact opposite. Windows 95 was based on MS-DOS and required it to operate. As I said above, Windows 98 was a genuine improvement in Microsoft's DOS-based OS. With Windows Me, Microsoft discovered that you can't push a rope.

    Windows 2000 promised to replace the DOS-based and NT-based branches of Windows with a single unified branch. Didn't happen. Windows XP was what Windows 2000 was supposed to be. However, it was susceptible to the most dangerous computer malware in history. Without question, Win XP has improved since its introduction. However, it is amusing that so many Windows users now hang onto XP when presented with the prospect of Vista.

    Now we hear that Windows 7 will be The Promised Land and Windows users can put the Vista nightmare behind them. We have heard it all before. It wasn't true then. It isn't true now.
     
  23. steve2112 macrumors 68040

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    Look, I'm no MS apologist. I work with it every day, and I'm painfully aware of the problems. There is a reason why 2 of my 3 personally owned machines run OSX. I completely agree that MS has repeatedly over promised things. My point is that Vista is not nearly as bad as the public perception. Heck, Vista is actually much more secure than XP, if for no other reason that you can actually do stuff in it without being an administrator. That fact alone is a huge improvement over XP. (End users turning off UAC and running as admin is a different issue). Notice that until the Conficker worm, Vista had not been subject to the huge self installing/propagating worms that XP was. Another point on the Me vs. Vista thing is that ME really was a disaster, whereas Vista is perceived to be a disaster.

    The problem is that Microsoft had backed themselves into a corner. They really need to do what Apple did with OSX: Completely scrap the old OS, and start over. They tried doing that in the early stages of Longhorn/Vista, and it failed because of backward compatibility. Microsoft's enterprise customers won't put up with something that breaks compatibility, even if it is much better in other respects. MS could build something much more stable and secure, but they won't because they would tick off too many customers. Thus, they have to make sure that their OS still works with ancient versions of Office, custom DOS based apps, and other apps that haven't been updated since the NT days, simply because their customers refuse to upgrade.

    Is Windows 7 the promised land? Probably not, but is is an improvement over XP and Vista. If they can actually get it to market without adding on a bunch of useless bloat, it may actually be pretty good. The question is if it is too little, too late.
     
  24. Dmac77 macrumors 68020

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    Wow, government is doing something that makes sense! That's a shocker.

    Don
     
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    And after have enough spare money to buy a clue you could learn that I own my own company.

    And someday perhaps you'll be able to know the difference between company policy and the law.

    Who knows? Maybe someday you'll actually be able to debate without resorting to childish insults.
     

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