Texts are defaulting to imessage

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  1. elf69 macrumors 68000

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    So I usually text my fiancee from work during day.

    Yesterday just had no signal so decided I would use my macbook to imessage her iphone SE.

    All good.

    Now this morning I got to work and tried to text her on my iphone 6s plus.
    but I am not able to, it defaults to imessage.

    In message settings it is set to send via sms if imessage not available.

    I have turned off imessage and sent.

    It worked until I used my macbook.
    Has this messed something up?

    I know I can turn it on and off in settings but as it was working before I used the macbook then should work again?

    Or by using macbook has apple now linked her number with imessage as apposed to sms?
     
  2. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    As soon as you send your message, you can hold the blue bubble and an option for 'Send as SMS' should appear :)

    I appreciate it's not a permanent fix but should hopefully help if it's defaulting to iMessage when you have no Wi-Fi/3G.
     
  3. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I did that but getting no replies.

    not sure if she got them as she normally replies instantly when I get to work.

    She likes to know I got in safely.

    I turned off imessage and sent another but again no reply.
     
  4. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    :) :)

    Do you have Wi-Fi at your work? Does she have 'read' messages enabled on her iMessage, so you can see if she's picking them up?
     
  5. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I do have wifi, but I know today she is out with appointments and collections as she carer for her father.

    Will try anyway as on imessage she does have "read" turned on.
     
  6. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Does she not babe iMessage? How were you able to message her from your computer?
     
  7. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I can imessage her iphone from my mac.
    imessage between apple device are free and do not need a carrier.

    but if imessage is on in the phone, even if "sms when imessage is not available" is turned on we cannot send txt if offline.

    we have to disable imessage.

    But we used to be able to.

    I wonder if sending message from my macbook has upset a setting?
     
  8. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    What do you mean by sending messages when offline? Why not simply use iMessage on the phone?
     
  9. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    im trying to txt my fiancee. and if imessage is turned on I cannot.

    she is not always in so no wifi.

    BEFORE i messages her phone from my mac it worked fine.
    since i used the mac now we have to turn off imassage.
    there is a setting which says "if imessage not available send as text" but if on still unable to text.

    so our fix is turn off imessage but now our grandniece cannot message us from her ipod.

    It used to work ok.
     
  10. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Are you saying she can't get iMessages if she isn't on WiFi? Just trying to understand why not use iMessage all the time.
     
  11. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    if on wifi imessage works. cannot imessage all the time as she not always home and not all my contacts have iphone.

    I used to be able to use message on phone it would auto text or imessage depending on if on wifi or not.
    now it only imessage unless i turn off imessage.

    I think it has to do with using my macbook to imessage my fiancee.
     
  12. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Well, for those that aren't using an iPhone it would automatically default to using regular text messaging and not even try iMessages. For those that support iMessages it would try iMessage first and then send as a regular text message if the iMessage isn't delivered for a period of time (usually somewhere in the range of 5 minutes or so).

    That said, you don't have to be on WiFi for iMessage to work, regular cellular/mobile data from the carrier will work for it as well--does that somehow not work for you or her for some reason?
     
  13. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    no data on our plans to speak of so we don't use it.
    not tried on 3g/4g due to this.

    It does not retry as text if imessage fails.
    Sent an imessage to my fiancee this morning at 8:58am she still not got it.
    another at 9:05am again not received, sent on my iphone but never received.
     
  14. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    So you completely don't have data (as in it's disabled) through the carrier, or you just don't have much of it?
     
  15. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    dont have much of it.
    imessage works on wifi no problems.

    but imessage is default when trying to text so we have had to disable it to text.
    really annoying but livable.

    just our grandniece cannot imessage us now as we have to turn it off.

    worked for first few days of phone with imessage on, but since i used mac to imessage her now will not auto swap between text and imessage
     
  16. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    It should still work fine even if you don't have much data since iMessage doesn't take much data (short of sending a bunch of photos or videos or something like that). So if you have data (even if it's not much) and iMessage enabled that's why it tries to use it because from Apple's perspective you have what's needed to use iMessage.
     
  17. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    data and wifi is off.

    now imessage should send a text if no internet.

    It does not.

    that's the problem, I cannot send imessage or text if offline and imessage turned on in messages.

    our fix it turn off imessage now can send texts again.
     
  18. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    last night my fiancee has facetime on as she was talking to grandniece.

    then after she called me on her iphone and my phone rang so did facetime on my imac.

    Is that normal?
     
  19. elf69 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Strangely this morning my fiancee cannot text, call or imessage from her iphone SE.

    If she puts a three sim in she can text and call but no imessage.

    She been on phone to EE and our local apple store.
    She waiting call back from EE and our apple store lost about imessage.
    Our local store is a certified re-seller and not a full apple store.

    Today we have been communicating via skype as she cannot text me.
     
  20. addamas macrumors 6502

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    I also have this problem... Mostly it's related to fast answer from top notification.
    When my fiancée is no longer connected to Internet after a while we type using SMS. Messaging app is correctly sending SMS only after I force it to do it but this shortcut is sending iMessage at first every damn time... She don't have mobile data or wifi on for sure...
    Where can we report it ? It's like shortcut and messaging app are not using the same trigger to send iMessage or SMS to the contact.
    What is more iMessages are draining battery more than expected
     

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