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Navy-Brat

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You've done so much Wicknix. Not just for creating two internet browsers for keeping our Intel OS X Snow Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion systems alive with Arctic Fox (32/64-bit), and New Moon (64-bit) when there were no other current browsers for these systems, but also for all of the PPC applications: Arctic Fox for PPC Linux, Arctic Fox for PPC OS X, FaceIt and Tweet It for PPC OS X, as well as how to play and download YouTube videos from Arctic Fox. As it is, I'm not aware of any currently-working FaceBook or Twitter clients for PPC OS X. nor many means to download YouTube videos for such systems as well. Thank you.
 
Yes, cheers. Cheers to a cold one! :D

While we're here, I'd like to personally thank @swamprock for taking the time to make his excellent step-by-step guide on installing Debian Sid, along with helping all manners of people along the way.

Not only that, he also made the Tiger Sierra theme. Thanks to you swampy, clamshells everywhere look modernized and reinvigorated. :apple:

We've got a lot of great folks around here. Statistically, this is not something many other threads and forums on the web can claim. :)
 
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Excellent work people. Gratitude all-round for a genuine community of contributors!

It’s this kind of die hard attitude that separate the free thinkers from the herd.

We’ll stick with this old Mac platform which works for us (and carries a sense of freedom and/or memories of a bygone era) for as long as we can, but I wonder where this forum will be 5 years from now...

:apple: (In a 6-colour bleed)
 
Hey thanks. You just made this beer drinking, metal head biker geek smile during an otherwise not so good week. :)

Cheers
Not the IPA or bitter cool stuff, but I'll definitely crack open one of my better vintages and raise an excellent glass of red Bordeaux and drink to your health this evening. Again, thanks for all your efforts!
All I wish is that I could pluck up the courage to install Debian Sid on one of my PPC's. Despite the apparently well written guide it looks particularly challenging, at least to me......
 
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All I wish is that I could pluck up the courage to install Debian Sid on one of my PPC's. Despite the apparently well written guide it looks particularly challenging, at least to me......

Suggestions? What's challenging about it?
 
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Yes, cheers. Cheers to a cold one! :D

While we're here, I'd like to personally thank @swamprock for taking the time to make his excellent step-by-step guide on installing Debian Sid, along with helping all manners of people along the way.

Not only that, he also made the Tiger Sierra theme. Thanks to you swampy, clamshells everywhere look modernized and reinvigorated. :apple:

We've got a lot of great folks around here. Statistically, this is not something many other threads and forums on the web can claim. :)

*Thumbs up*

Cheers to everyone keeping this platform alive. We've come along way in just a few years, and I think we've still got a few years left in these old machines before relegating them to truly-vintage status.

(Posting from my 1.0ghz TiBook running Debian sid)
 
Suggestions? What's challenging about it?
Well I guess it's in no way challenging to those of you geeks or others familiar with using Terminal. To those like myself who have a tendance to suffer from LCI-phobia, just looking at the guide motivates to stick with an early OS X and it's idiosyncrasies - however daft that may sound. And yes, I don't doubt that I'd be doing myself an injustice in not jumping-in and giving the guide some valuable learning time.
My very first question re-reading the Linux thread would be:
On a G4 1.25GHz Imac or PBook5,7 or PBook5,8 1,67GHz what are the advantages if any in using the latest Debian 10 (Sid) over Ubunto 16.04?
 
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My very first question re-reading the Linux thread would be:
On a G4 1.25GHz Imac or PBook5,7 or PBook5,8 1,67GHz what are the advantages if any in using the latest Debian 10 (Sid) over Ubunto 16.04?

Advantages off the top of my head...

-All system software and applications will be totally up-to-date. As far as up-to-dateness goes, you could call it the equivalent of OS X 10.15.
-Some bugs present in 16.04 will likely have been fixed in Sid as well.
-Being Debian, it may also be slightly less resource-intensive, though this is not entirely confirmed.
-And because 16.04 is the last Ubuntu LTS released for PowerPC, Sid will likely be the closest we're going to get to a new Ubuntu. Think of it as like the daily build (which makes sense, because Ubuntu is based off the Debian Unstable branch).

You don't need to do anything if you're not comfortable doing so. If OS X gives you the most ability out of your computer, then I'd advise you to stay on it, and if you really want to learn, I'd say to experiment with a virtual machine on another computer until you feel ready to go full install (which you can dual-boot with OS X, if interested).
 
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You don't need to do anything if you're not comfortable doing so. If OS X gives you the most ability out of your computer, then I'd advise you to stay on it...

That's exactly why I'm still on Mac OS, because there's lingering discomfort from my previous experiences with Linux. Probably not fair, I'm sure it's come a long way since I've tried it; and come to think of it, the only reason I ever even gave Mac OS a try was because of my frustrations with Windows 98 - Windows has certainly come a long way since then.

Eventually I’ll end up on Linux, I'm pretty sure of that. I don’t like where Microsoft and Apple have taken their operating systems, which leaves open-source or nothing. I’m excited to see what might come from the Fienix, Adelie, and Void distros for PPC, and I know everything in the x86/64 space keeps getting better.

So thanks for The Linux Thread, and keep up the good work.
 
Advantages off the top of my head...

-All system software and applications will be totally up-to-date. As far as up-to-dateness goes, you could call it the equivalent of OS X 10.15.
-Some bugs present in 16.04 will likely have been fixed in Sid as well.
-Being Debian, it may also be slightly less resource-intensive, though this is not entirely confirmed.
-And because 16.04 is the last Ubuntu LTS released for PowerPC, Sid will likely be the closest we're going to get to a new Ubuntu. Think of it as like the daily build (which makes sense, because Ubuntu is based off the Debian Unstable branch).

You don't need to do anything if you're not comfortable doing so. If OS X gives you the most ability out of your computer, then I'd advise you to stay on it, and if you really want to learn, I'd say to experiment with a virtual machine on another computer until you feel ready to go full install (which you can dual-boot with OS X, if interested).
Ok, thanks for your comments.
 
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