So does this mean only the 2.66ghz and 2.93ghz mac pro has 1333mhz fsb? Not for the 2.26ghz right?
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The 2009 (Gainestown) Mac Pro: Everything We Know
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What are the clock speed improvements with the Turbo Boost. I know that the 2.93 GHz will reach 3.33 GHz but what about the others?
Does anyone know yet if there is a second socket in the motherboard in the single CPU MP? And -- even if there is, considering the design, would it even be possible to use it in the future...?
No there isn't. Unfortunatly! And this is why I can't see recommending that box. It also can not be upgraded past 8gb RAM which might be OK or even "good" today but will suck hard in a year or two.
Seriously that box is worth about $1k (starting) which would still be over priced enough for Apple. IMO Apple should not call it a MP at all. <shrug>
Turbo Boost only increases the the system speed by 133MHz. It's quite disappointing, I've used it.
It's just DDR3, G stands for Graphics(card). The 2.66GHz and higher chips should use DDR3-1333, but it is ultimately determined by the EFI settings. Since Apple is only shipping it with 1066, then they will probably have it set to the lower speed, no matter how fast of RAM you put in it.
Something to consider...
... The miniDisplayPort on the GT 120 is compliant with HDCP (High Definition Content Protection - DRM). Meaning, if your monitor has a DisplayPort connection, you could simply install a Blu-ray drive in the Mac Pro and you can watch Blu-ray movies.
Most HDTV's don't double as computer monitors very well, but some computer monitors can double as a great HDTV.
If that same monitor has an HDCP compliant DVI connection, you could connect a Cable TV (or Sat) HD set-top-box to it using an HDMI-DVI adapter.
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP: (USD$519.00)
24-Inch WUXGA 1920 x 1200 Display – View approximately 30%1 more on-screen content compared to Dell 20-inch monitor.
6 Millisecond Response Time (typical) – Reduces ghosting and imaging associated with movement for fluid motion.
3000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio – Get dark blacks, sharp images, crisp text, brilliant color saturation and greater life-like detail.
110%2 Color Gamut (CIE 1976) - With Dell TrueColor Technology, you’ll see more color than average monitor of 72% color gamut
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Full HD 1080p – Supports higher definition than HD television and a wide array of HD connection options like HDMI, Display Port, DVI-D with HDCP and HDMI 2.1 Audio Out.
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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/GGCH20LMPLS/ (blu-ray drive)
... The miniDisplayPort on the GT 120 is compliant with HDCP (High Definition Content Protection - DRM). Meaning, if your monitor has a DisplayPort connection, you could simply install a Blu-ray drive in the Mac Pro and you can watch Blu-ray movies.
Most HDTV's don't double as computer monitors very well, but some computer monitors can double as a great HDTV.
If that same monitor has an HDCP compliant DVI connection, you could connect a Cable TV (or Sat) HD set-top-box to it using an HDMI-DVI adapter.
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP: (USD$519.00)
24-Inch WUXGA 1920 x 1200 Display – View approximately 30%1 more on-screen content compared to Dell 20-inch monitor.
6 Millisecond Response Time (typical) – Reduces ghosting and imaging associated with movement for fluid motion.
3000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio – Get dark blacks, sharp images, crisp text, brilliant color saturation and greater life-like detail.
110%2 Color Gamut (CIE 1976) - With Dell TrueColor Technology, you’ll see more color than average monitor of 72% color gamut
.
Full HD 1080p – Supports higher definition than HD television and a wide array of HD connection options like HDMI, Display Port, DVI-D with HDCP and HDMI 2.1 Audio Out.
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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/GGCH20LMPLS/ (blu-ray drive)
They just passed on one of the largest price increases in the history of the MacPro/PowerMac/Quadra line, I don't think passing or even eating the insignificant cost of the wifi card would be an issue. Like others have said, its a security issue.
The quad core tray only has one socket. In theoretical world where you could get the 8-core tray and the heat sinks (the quad core also uses a different heat sink) all depends on whether the quad core uses the x58SP or x58DP. If it uses the X58SP, you would never be able to upgrade because it has only one quickpath link (in addition to being even more of a rip-off). Multi-processing requires to quickpath links.
They don't have a front side bus at all, quickpath replaced it and it has an on-die integrated memory controller instead of it being located on the north bridge. The integrated memory controller in those models can use 1333mhz memory.
there is NO FSB anymore.. its gone! dont worry about that anymore. QPI replaced it.
we now measure everything by the GTps (giga something) of the QPI. see the image above ^^ for the QPI speeds.
why isnt apple ofereing the top 3.2ghz nehalem?? price??
The 8-core Mac Pros use Xeon 5500 series CPUs which Intel isn't publicly releasing until the end of this month. Apple got a head start again with Intel. The 3.2's probably weren't in high enough supply yet for Apple to offer them. They will probably start offering them in a few months if not sooner. A Pair of 3.2GHz CPUs will cost $3,200 ironically enough. Based on my calculations of what Apple is charging on upgrades from the 2.26GHz, unless you use a discount store, the upgrade from the 2.26 to 3.2GHz will be about $3190 at current Intel prices.
If I had the money:
$7,149.00 ($5613.00 with ADC discount)
Specifications
Two 3.20GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
12GB (6x2GB)
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
One 18x SuperDrive
Apple Mighty Mouse
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad (English) and User's Guide
AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi Card with 802.11n
I thought it moved in steps of 133 MHz. ie it would increase by 133 MHz, check if it's still within it's tolerance/operational limits, and then increase again. That would be awful disappointing (and kind of useless) if it only can increase by 133 once.
aahh well that makes sense then.. do you think it will be that cheap? or are you quoting the quad core, not the dual-quad?
i am just imagining a 8-core @ 3.2GHz.. *drool*. quite an upgrade from my CD MBP haha.
i thought that the 2.93GHz stepped up to 3.2GHz max when needed??
not sure about the lower processors, i know that somebody did post the answer in a thread on MR somewhere...goodluck finding it baha
Um... No.
There are a few pieces needed to watch Blu-ray movies on a computer:
- Blu-ray drive
- Blu-ray playback software
That's the minimum. The Mac is sorely lacking in Blu-ray playback software.
HDCP isn't even a requirement. It's only needed for a digital connection. My analog VGA-connected monitor at home lets me play Blu-ray movies just fine. If I switch to my non-HDCP DVI connection, it fails; but VGA is fine.
The addition of HDCP means that Apple could add Blu-ray, but without playback software, it just won't work.
Oddly, OS X Leopard's standard "DVD Player" software will play unencrypted (MPEG-2 or H.264) HD DVDs just fine, but not Blu-ray; not even unencrypted Blu-ray.
It does. Turbo Boost adds 2x 133MHz to the clock when it engages.
Works across the board (all parts that have this feature). Some, such as the not yet released L (Low power) models, won't IIRC, as they operate at too low a voltage for it to work.
It's always seemed about licensing/control to me, even though Apple is on the board for Blu Ray. (The only thing left that makes sense to me anyway).
It's possible, with the recent announcement of lower licensing costs, that Apple will finally write the software and enable Blu Ray for Mac. As you pointed out, they have everything else necessary from a technical POV.
Been awhile since I've posted here, but been keeping an eye on this thread in anticipation of this release..
Any speculation on a "Late 2009" Mac Pro release date, specs..
Apple never updates in a timeframe of less than a year. There will be nothing more done until next year.
It's customary on MR to close threads when they hit 2000 posts or higher for server reasons. Feel free to continue where this one left off. After all, we now know more about the new Mac Pros than we did in January.
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