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Huge opportunity lost for Liverpool. Benteke continues to struggle. Terrible, terrible offside call to rule out a perfectly good Liverpool goal but Klopp's men just weren't good enough today. I was genuinely hoping for a big blowout, maybe Liverpool underestimated their opponents today.

It's easy to forget that Newcastle actually have a decent squad - Mike Ashley has been so destructive to any sense of team spirit because it's obvious that he has no sporting ambitions. Credit to Newcastle for going out and fighting. McLaren's real problem is how to get the team to do that week in and week out.

MLS Cup final in less than two hours...I'm feeling the anticipation/anxiety already.
The thing with Liverpool is they have the same problem year-in year-out, they seem to have turned the corner, beat the best sides then lose to the worst, so inconsistent, they haven't had a decent striker since they let Suarez the biter go. Sturridge is great but like Michael Owen, his injuries will be the end of him.

All hail the best boss in the EPL, Pochettino he has turned my team around in the season and a half he has been around, forget Mourinho who is a whining little bi**h who has come undone this year and no matter what anyone says his players don't want him there.
 
Big Champions league night for Man Utd given that PSV are most likely to win against CSKA. A draw won't be enough to stay in the CL.
 
That second Wolfsburg goal against United...ridiculous.

EDIT: This is becoming comical.

EDIT2: United knocked out.

Arsenal will likely be next

Meanwhile...

"Liverpool striker Daniel Sturridge will be out for several weeks after suffering a hamstring injury during Sunday's defeat at Newcastle.

"He felt a problem after coming on as a second-half substitute at St James' Park and a scan showed a strain.
 
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United :(

Europa..sigh! I hope United get knocked out of Europa as early as possible so that they can concentrate on the league :(

Edit: As much as I like the stability that LvG brought in, I think it's time to part ways at the end of the season. I'd rather Carlo Ancelotti come in next summer. (Pep won't even touch United with a 10 foot pole)
 
United :(

Europa..sigh! I hope United get knocked out of Europa as early as possible so that they can concentrate on the league :(

Edit: As much as I like the stability that LvG brought in, I think it's time to part ways at the end of the season. I'd rather Carlo Ancelotti come in next summer. (Pep won't even touch United with a 10 foot pole)
Absolutely gutted for United to be in Europa League, but the performances simply haven't been good enough.

Regarding LVG, I am going to wait until the end of the season before judging. If the team finishes the season trophyless and if Ancelotti or Pep is available then I think he should go.
 
They may finish trophyless but they'll get 4th spot as a minimum, the implosion at Chelsea will guarantee that :)
 
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How many hundreds of millions of pounds did LvG spend over the past two seasons? And why does the football look so dreadful after all that? And why after all the old players let go during that same time period, does the squad look like it still has so much dead weight in it?

Retirement beckons, Louie.
 
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Tbh, i didn't think we would pull it off. But massive credit to the boys for getting the job done. Hopefully a favourable draw in the next round. Wolfsburg or Zenith perhaps.
 
Sorry, Columbusians - those of us who live next to the Columbia river get to celebrate!

The officiating was crap - but at least it was consistently hurt/benefitted both teams crap. (The missed out-of-bounds before the Timbers second goal; the missed handball in the box that should have been the Timbers third goal.)

And other than Clark's mis-queue in the opening minute, he was a rock. I honestly thought that he should have gotten MVP because his insane goalkeeping was the only thing that kept it a one-goal match. The Timbers should have been up 4 or 5 to 1.

Yes, I was incredibly sad that many of my friends went to Columbus for the match, but being unemployed, I couldn't afford to go. I could hear them loud and proud on the TeeVee.

I'm a big MLS fan, and I hate to say this, but I felt like the football in this match was low-quality, and not just Columbus' two howlers. It was more like Luton Town vs Wycombe than the top tier league MLS wants to become. I lost count of the number of times players from both teams passed the ball out of bounds or dribbled out of bounds. Dunno, maybe it was nerves. At least I didn;t have to watch LA, either NY team, Ortlando or Seattle.

I have no time for Caleb Porter. But congrats all the same, Portland were the better team on the day. I'm still fuming about Columbus' performance - that was well below what we were capable of, it should have been a far tighter game. One stupid mistake destroyed the contest in the first minute. After the second goal Columbus partially settled down but some players were clearly rattled and not themselves for the rest of the match.

Columbus are a young team - their inexperience showed. I'm still too angry to be positive, even though I think Berhalter has done a great job with a club the league and pretty much everyone else loves to write off. We also have an owner who put his money where his mouth is. I hope Berhalter can get the squad to pick themselves up and come back stronger next season.

I was annoyed to hear Don Garber babbling on about how MLS is going to expand to 28 teams. Sorry, that's too many. We already no play every team home and away. With 28 teams it's going to be like MLB, we will spend most of our time playing within our own conference. Dumb.

How many hundreds of millions of pounds did LvG spend over the past two seasons? And why does the football look so dreadful after all that? And why after all the old players let go during that same time period, does the squad look like it still has so much dead weight in it?

Retirement beckons, Louie.

I know I'm biased because I support the 'pool, but the reality is Man Utd have no excuses. They have spent a huge amount of money and the results are incredibly average. Trust me, I know what that feels like. A lot of people had a grand old time laughing about Andy Carroll and Balotelli (among others), but Liverpool aren't the only club paying through the nose for players that don't live up to the hype. I wonder how much of that gets pinned on LVG, and how much on Woodward.

What Man Utd don't have, and will never have again, is Ferguson. Without him, Man Utd are just another super-rich club. And while it seems like the number of such clubs has expanded over the last 15 years (Chelsea, Man City, Monaco, PSG) the numbers of top top top managers and players has not. Which means it's tougher to be top dog now than it ever has been.

Pep and Ancelotti seem to be the names bounced around most often as replacements for LVG, but with Man City also possibly looking to replace Pellegrini (and if Pep goes, Bayern will be in the market too) we could see a real managerial bidding war this summer. I suppose you have to throw Mou into that equation as well, Chelsea might pull the plug on him yet. I bet he'd go to Italy, but you never know.

Arsenal through to the next round. 3-0 now. They've shown United how it's done!

Tbh, i didn't think we would pull it off. But massive credit to the boys for getting the job done. Hopefully a favourable draw in the next round. Wolfsburg or Zenith perhaps.

I wish Arsenal the best, I really do, but we all know that this just means they are going to get absolutely humped by one of the real contenders in the knockout stages...just too many injuries for them to keep multiple campaigns going at once. I like Giroud (a magnificent looking specimen with great hair), but even this performance against the hapless Greeks still doesn't convince me that he can get it done against the Bayerns and Barcelonas.

...or maybe the negativity of my Arsenal-supporting officemate is starting to rub off on me.

Still, they got a big result today and that should give the squad a morale boost. Who knows, they might surprise us again.
 
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Don't think anyone is under any delusions about Arsenal's chances. Today was mostly about the money and Wenger's record remaining intact.

Chelsea won't win it either. But a healthy distraction for Chelsea, given their woes in the EPL.
 
I'm a big MLS fan, and I hate to say this, but I felt like the football in this match was low-quality, and not just Columbus' two howlers. It was more like Luton Town vs Wycombe than the top tier league MLS wants to become. I lost count of the number of times players from both teams passed the ball out of bounds or dribbled out of bounds. Dunno, maybe it was nerves. At least I didn;t have to watch LA, either NY team, Ortlando or Seattle.

As a long-time Portland supporter, I do have to agree - it was a generally bad match, with a few tremendously horrible moments (by both players and officials,) and a few reasonably good moments. (Clark's goalkeeping a few times was truly tremendous, and there were a few great offensive runs by both sides, even if they never led to a goal.)

As much as I despise the constant shifting of the way MLS does things, I do hope that this new goofy extra-money system will draw and keep good talent. (Timbers have already lost one starter because they couldn't afford to keep him on payroll under the salary cap; and there are many rumors that Darlington Nagbe will move to a richer league soon.)
 
Good to see özil's performing well..love how he plays football. Always been bugging me seeing how he gets ovely critisized - will be a pity he'll likely will never play for barca - would love to see that!!

Congrats to Arsenal, but haven't been that surprised tbh - they are in great form as for as i follow. They can throw out a big hitter as well - but i doubt they can do it more than once without too much luck. Giroud - is he even starting against top opposition wirh everybody on board?

Anyway, being a happy lad myself with Hertha doing good atm. See you guys in the next CL campaign :D
 
I'm a big MLS fan, and I hate to say this, but I felt like the football in this match was low-quality, and not just Columbus' two howlers. It was more like Luton Town vs Wycombe than the top tier league MLS wants to become. I lost count of the number of times players from both teams passed the ball out of bounds or dribbled out of bounds. Dunno, maybe it was nerves. At least I didn;t have to watch LA, either NY team, Ortlando or Seattle.

I have no time for Caleb Porter. But congrats all the same, Portland were the better team on the day. I'm still fuming about Columbus' performance - that was well below what we were capable of, it should have been a far tighter game. One stupid mistake destroyed the contest in the first minute. After the second goal Columbus partially settled down but some players were clearly rattled and not themselves for the rest of the match.

Columbus are a young team - their inexperience showed. I'm still too angry to be positive, even though I think Berhalter has done a great job with a club the league and pretty much everyone else loves to write off. We also have an owner who put his money where his mouth is. I hope Berhalter can get the squad to pick themselves up and come back stronger next season.

I was annoyed to hear Don Garber babbling on about how MLS is going to expand to 28 teams. Sorry, that's too many. We already no play every team home and away. With 28 teams it's going to be like MLB, we will spend most of our time playing within our own conference. Dumb. ...

I'd pay money to watch Luton v Wycombe!

Yer correct, It was a crappy match. Agreed on all the above.

I'd add that I'd like to see, please note I've been shouted down on two other boards about this, us go to a straight table and have the champ be the team that finishes on top. We've got the Supporter's Shield as our tourney so I'd make a bigger deal about that and let it suffice.

We definitely don't need expansion. I can't say for sure but it seems to me people start these things in hopes of making money and then when it goes tits up they leave the team, the fans, and the league in a mess. Pro sports franchises used to be owned by rich people who could afford to have a crappy team not by people who can't afford them trying to make a living. IMHO it probably should stay that way.

To me this all comes off as an attempted money grab and the playoffs too.
 
As a long-time Portland supporter, I do have to agree - it was a generally bad match, with a few tremendously horrible moments (by both players and officials,) and a few reasonably good moments. (Clark's goalkeeping a few times was truly tremendous, and there were a few great offensive runs by both sides, even if they never led to a goal.)

Clark is an outstanding shot-stopper, but his positioning and decision-making can lead to mistakes.

there are many rumors that Darlington Nagbe will move to a richer league soon.)

If Klinsmann has any serious plans for Nagbe as a USA starter, the first thing he will tell Nagbe is "get the hell out of MLS."


Giroud - is he even starting against top opposition wirh everybody on board?

Good point. Congrats re: Hertha by the way!

I'd add that I'd like to see, please note I've been shouted down on two other boards about this, us go to a straight table and have the champ be the team that finishes on top. We've got the Supporter's Shield as our tourney so I'd make a bigger deal about that and let it suffice.

In an ideal world, I agree, but it will never happen. The idea that Americans need playoffs is just a stereotype based on circular arguments and nonsense, but it will never go away.

Like I said, I'm not happy about the expansion. 20-22 teams is probably the maximum reasonable size; 24 is getting bloated and 28 is just greed.

For the record, I have nothing against Luton Town or Wycombe Wanderers. ;)
 
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Good point. Congrats re: Hertha by the way!

Thing is, his striking teammates are rather injury prone. :D They get a striker with their next 50+million dollar signing next summer and who knows. I see them front runner for the league this year with City - but haven't seen one Leicester match so far either.

Hertha is amazing, but I try not to get too accustomed, you'll never know! But not pessimistic on a Lord Blackadder (or his co-worker) level either. :D
 
A very, very dull match in Switzerland, but that's what happens in a tournament when both teams only need a draw. Liverpool top their Europa League group, so job done.

Spurs v Monaco is anything but dull...four goals in 60 minutes.
 
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In an ideal world, I agree, but it will never happen. The idea that Americans need playoffs is just a stereotype based on circular arguments and nonsense, but it will never go away.

Like I said, I'm not happy about the expansion. 20-22 teams is probably the maximum reasonable size; 24 is getting bloated and 28 is just greed.

For the record, I have nothing against Luton Town or Wycombe Wanderers. ;)

he he he, I'm sure you don't. ;)


Oh, I agree with you on the rest.
 
Breaking news**

Karim Benzema is suspended indefinitely from team France due to the blackmail scandal, i guess France just lost their chance at another WC victory.
 
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