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The 2021-2022 Football Thread

Lord Blackadder said:
Supposedly closer to 200k. That is a lot of dough. More than Jordan Henderson, Fabinho, Firmino, just about as much as Thiago and pre-contract-renewal Salah...
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I suppose there is no signing fee, so they are just paying what they would have in instalments. That’s why players let their contracts run down. Will still cost them less than £10 million so I suspect it’s good business for them (if they stay up).
Not sure it will do any England hopes he has for the WC any favours though.
 
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£200,000 a week? Gosh.

Depressing, really.

@Apple fanboy: Re your tale as a child of running onto the pitch to get Bobby Moore's autograph, I smiled, and had a vivid memory of my father. He would have killed us - trying such a stunt would not have arisen in his company, - but he would have been good and patient about waiting while trying for autographs afterwards - manners mattered to him, and he was quite insistent on having us behave correctly, politely and properly.

Mind you, as my mother tartly remarked, that didn't stop him shouting (loudly, with a vocabulary we didn't know he possessed, and which we were strictly forbidden from even contemplating the use of, at home) at referees.
 
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For Lingard it's actually £125K per week, but can top out at £200K with incentives.

I also read somewhere that it's a 1 year deal.

In a World Cup year he joins a team where he's an unquestioned starter, so it's a short term means to a short term end.

Good deal for both parties.
 
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Lord Blackadder said:
It wouldn't really be an issue - and for many decades it was not - but there have been too many instances of pitch invaders in recent years who attacked players and staff or otherwise created a serious security/safety issue. That cannot be tolerated and if we have rules in place for this they will have to apply to all pitch invaders.

From a players' perspective, when a man is sprinting towards you from the stands you have no idea what their intentions are - are they going to ask you for an autograph or sock you on the jaw? I sympathize with their desire for better security. It's never been more difficult to be a public figure and balance access with fans against security and privacy needs. Most fans are decent folk but that's not a guarantee of safety. It only takes one genuine knucklehead to cause trouble.

The last thing I would want to be these days is famous.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of the pitch invasion.




www.theguardian.com

Fan jailed for assault on Sheffield Wednesday's Chris Kirkland

A football fan was jailed for 16 weeks after he admitted attacking the Sheffield Wednesday goalkeeper Chris Kirkland on the pitch
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I phooking hate l**ds...

 
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Scepticalscribe said:
There is such a spot - certainly, in the UK.

For my part, I've waited (granted, this was years, okay, even decades, ago) outside the stadium, in the section - not quite cordoned off but there are stewards and police present - where the players (showered, scrubbed, changed) walk from their rooms in the stadium to the their waiting coach; very often, they will sign autographs if you ask them (politely).

Of course, this will be well after the match has ended, perhaps more than an hour or so later, and you will have been standing in the cold and the dark, waiting around, (patience and tenacity are required) and a good many others - obviously - will also be there, seeking autographs, - and, these days, also selfies - and are there, present, simply to meet, press the flesh, of one's footballing heroes.

However, that means planning and patience, and a degree of tenacity, not qualities found in abundance in teenaged males.

No, he clearly didn't think this through, and I'm surprised that his family hadn't made it clear that this - invading the pitch - was Not A Good Idea.

I mean, when we were kids, my dad took us to matches; but, even for local matches, there was never a question of running onto the pitch afterwards, not even if you wished to meet the players; this is not just a question of potential violence from fans, (which is an all too serious threat) but basic etiquette, basic manners means that you leave the pitch to players and match officials - referees, linesmen/women/ medical staff, etc.
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I've been speaking with his dad and he is a little disappointed that he chose to do that versus enjoying the rest of the evening with him. They went to the game together. They bought 2 season tickets just for him.

His dad works for the police in our county(Rutherford), not in Nashville/Davidson county, but I don't think that is going to help.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
£200,000 a week? Gosh.

Depressing, really.

@Apple fanboy: Re your tale as a child of running onto the pitch to get Bobby Moore's autograph, I smiled, and had a vivid memory of my father. He would have killed us - trying such a stunt would not have arisen in his company, - but he would have been good and patient about trying for autographs afterwards - manners mattered to him, and he was quite insistent on having us behave correctly, politely and properly.

Mind you, as my mother tartly remarked, that didn't stop him shouting (loudly, with a vocabulary we didn't know he possessed, and which we were strictly forbidden from even contemplating the use of, at home) at referees.
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My Dad lifted me over the barrier!
 
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The Lionesses roared tonight England 4 Sweden 0. I have thoroughly enjoyed the competition so far. They don't argue with the referee, they don't roll around on the floor pretending to be injured, they don't fight with each other, for the most part no professional fouls, there is hardly ever any extra time unless there is a serious injury. They just play football.

I love Tottenham and want them to have a good season but what a bunch of over paid prima Dona *******! Just like the rest of the Premier football league. A disgrace really I don't know why we even give them the time of day.
 
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Women’s football reminds me a bit of the mens game from an earlier age in that you don’t see players throwing themselves to the floor at every tiny bit of contact.

The misogyny that has held back the the women’s game for decades has also forced women to play a cleaner, more stoic game than the men. They know if they roll around on the deck it will be attributed by ‘proper football men’ to their sex even though the men’s game is awash with diving, feigned injuries, silly ‘fights’, and other examples of unseemly drama.
 
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Lord Blackadder said:
Women’s football reminds me a bit of the mens game from an earlier age in that you don’t see players throwing themselves to the floor at every tiny bit of contact.

The misogyny that has held back the the women’s game for decades has also forced women to play a cleaner, more stoic game than the men. They know if they roll around on the deck it will be attributed by ‘proper football men’ to their sex even though the men’s game is awash with diving, feigned injuries, silly ‘fights’, and other examples of unseemly drama.
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Still that’s enough about Liverpool! 😀
 
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It's still hard to believe Barca are signing all these players...and arguably without a very cogent transfer strategy. Like I said before, they've learned nothing. They just signed away much of the next quarter century's worth of income and are wasting the money.

Utter hubris and incompetence. But apparently once you reach a certain level of wealth you can just keep failing and wasting it and never quite go totally bust. They always have one more big rabbit in the hat.
 
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