iPad Pro The A11 Bionic destroys the A10X Proof.

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  1. TheRealAlex macrumors 65816

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    The articles goes into greater detail. Here’s the short version the A10X only shows up as a 2 Core CPU as being available at any given time Either an app is using 2 High Power Cores or 2 Low Power Cores all 4 Cores can not run at once.
    However the A11 Bionic has flexibility and is capable to have all 6 Cores running at the same time or independently as needed. Marking a monumental change.

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/09/11/iphone-x-a11-six-cores/

    Yet another reason I’m glad I didn’t get a 10.5” iPad Pro.
     
  2. spesifikbrush macrumors regular

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    Still a plenty fast iPad for all my drawing needs. Don’t need anymore speed cuz it sounds cool.
     
  3. Sunshoopa macrumors 6502

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    “I’m glad I didn’t get the iPad Pro 10.5 2nd gen because the A12 destroys the A11X”
     
  4. pika2000 macrumors 68040

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    This is an old article, before the announcement. Well, with the iPhone 8 already, any updated info on this? We already know the A11 has great benchmark scores.

    With the current cycle, the iPhone will always get a newer gen Ax chip than the iPad, but the iPad AxX chip can probably sustain higher performance longer. The trend is already there when the Air2 was released with an A8X, and then later the year Apple released the A9. So even if you waited for an A11X iPad Pro, by September of that year, the A12 will be out. You can wait forever, or actually take advantage of the utility of the iPad (larger canvas, Apple pencil, tablet optimized apps, etc) rather than looking at benchmarks.
     
  5. Raist3001 macrumors 6502a

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    Why buy anything at all since the subsequent year will always be faster than the previous year?
     
  6. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Let me go ahead and disprove this right now. The A10X is a six core processor with three High Performance Cores and three High Effeciency cores. The A10X can use up to three cores at any given moment, with most daily tasks being relegated to the low power cores. The second thing is that the thermal headroom of the iPad Pro’s allows continuous use of high performance cores, while the iPhone will probably throttle the frequency of the proccesor and gpu within 8-10 minutes. As for the graphics processor within the A11 it is custom designed for iOS 11 and Metal 2 feature set. Employing three cores compared to the iPad Pro’s 12 core Power VR chip. The A11 graphics are about on par with the A9X in terms of raw performance, while the A10X gpu offers about 2x the performance while maintaining the higher frequency over a longer period of time the same way the cpu does. Overall the A10X is the more powerful chip for the majority of tasks, while the A11 does exceed the A10X in certain scenarios *mainly related to the machine learning and AR capabilities the new Apple gpu is optimized for especially eregarding new feature set of Metal 2 graphics api.
     
  7. Howard2k macrumors 6502a

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    Hopefully your parents will pick you one up next year. Keep holding on.
     
  8. ericwn macrumors 68000

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    The linked “article” doesn’t even have some measured benchmarks to call out. Wonderful proof. Falls in line with the other stuff you post like the iPad won’t have a headphone jack and that Apple will work with advertisers to sell your Face ID data. FUD as usual.
     
  9. jclmavg macrumors regular

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    stupidity in twelve words.
     
  10. 960design macrumors 68030

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    I'm happy I had the iPP9.7 and currently have the iPP10.5. I'll be just as happy to the next iPP with the super bionic chip.
     
  11. danny842003 macrumors 6502a

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    My iPad 10.5 isn’t fast enough for my actual needs.

    Said nobody ever.
     
  12. TheRealAlex thread starter macrumors 65816

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    True yet UnTrue. I misquoted the article as the A10X As Being 4 Cores you are correct it is 6 Cores. Yet the underlying fact remains that Benchmarks and Apps can only address either 3 Cores High Power or the 3 Low Power Cores at any given time not all 6 Cores. And here’s Proof. As you can see the A11 Bionic Shows Up As 6 Cores where as the A10X only shows up as 3 Cores. Hence it’s major limitation. Links Below

    https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/46

    https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/51

    This is a major advancement in Apple made CPUs
     
  13. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    the three high power cores within the A10X are just about on par with the A11 SIX cores. So with 50% less cores being used the A10X is giving like 98% of peak (benchmark performance) and in real world perf is able to sustain the peak performance were as the A11 performance peak drops off fairly quickly as with any mobile phone.
     
  14. acorntoy, Oct 23, 2017
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    A10X is a better processor, and can retain its performance for much longer, as well as contains a much more powerful GPU. The people above have already posted enough on it. So I’ll give a lesson on marketing instead.


    Simply because one has a larger number in the name doesn’t mean it’s better, faster, or bigger.

    Mercedes numbering in the cars name used to be the displacement of the engine, but as engines have gotten smaller and more efficient, that’s changed. Now the German car companies raise the numbers every year just to give the -sense- that the engine is bigger. You can’t have an S450 when bmw’s base is the 750, that a bigger number, and consumers will automatically assume it’s better.

    https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-S/model-S560V4

    Look at the new S560, with a 4.0 liter engine. Ten years ago it would’ve been the S400.

    A year ago it was the 550 and actually had a LARGER 4.7 liter engine.

    https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-S/model-S550C4

    Just because one has a bigger number doesn’t mean it’s better, however it’s usually a good marketing trick to use to make people automatically think it is.
     
  15. tambur123 macrumors member

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    Life is too short to always wait for the next big thing. I will never ever make this mistake again (and I’m not talking only about gadgets)
     
  16. rdy0329 macrumors 6502

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    "A12 self-aware" will destroy "A11X super-bionic" soon enough and the machine uprising will be inevitable!

    No need for proof!
     
  17. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    The iPhone Xs with the all new “A12 Sentient” “solving tommorows problems today”
     
  18. iPadDad macrumors 6502

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    Not true!!! Look at the Metal tests in the link below (remember metal allows the software to stake full advantage of the GPU)
    http://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks/
     
  19. Sunshoopa macrumors 6502

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    I gotta say though, wow! iPad Air has 548 and the 10.5 has 28313. Didn’t know the GPU was such a massive upgrade.
     
  20. MrGimper macrumors 603

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    Examples of software currently available where this is a fact?

    Most software available wouldn't tax an iPad Air, let alone the current processors.
     
  21. maflynn Moderator

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    Why? What are planning on using the iPad for that requires such a fast processor. The A10 is plenty fast and I see no downsides of using the iPad. I think its silly to hold off on a product that works so well, just for the hope and promise a future version will be even faster.
     
  22. Falhófnir macrumors 68000

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    In cpu, it probably is significantly quicker. It’s already been noted that the A10 design uses only the high power or power saving cores at once while the A11 can mix and match. What about GPU though, that’s always the big upgrade of the X chips, doubt the A11 can even come close to the A10X in that respect, even after the the A10X is pushing a much higher screen resolution.
     
  23. ABC5S Suspended

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    Why do you even post this ? Each and every time a new iPad comes out it will supersede with a better CPU than the one before. This happens with the iPad, the iPhone, MacBooks and even Apple TV. Nothing earth shattering here. I think you’re doing this far too often and you have developed a lack of credibility on this forum
     
  24. Tmelon macrumors 6502a

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    I really don’t get why people are worrying over. this. The newer product will always have a faster processor. The iPhone will have the fastest processor until the next iPad comes out and then the iPad will have the fastest processer until the next iPhone comes out.
     
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