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The AnandTech MBP with Retina display review is UP!
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If you are at home and run the rMBP over an external display like a 27" NEC, then you won't have any lags I suppose.
So you'd only experience the lag when you're on the road. And, from what I heard, not with all websites.
If one is more focused on photographic or similar work, the lag is not great, but will be outweighed by the great screen, the better thermal characteristics, the better handling in the field.
Different people use laptops in a different way, and there's no one solution fits all. But for photographers, the rMBP looks like a total winner.
And as we are talking about depreciation: I think the classic MBP will depreciate more than the current rMBP and I can see it discontinued when the next generation rMBP arrives. And a computer from a discontinued series always loses more value than a computer from a new product line, even if it might have some first generation flaws.
So you'd only experience the lag when you're on the road. And, from what I heard, not with all websites.
If one is more focused on photographic or similar work, the lag is not great, but will be outweighed by the great screen, the better thermal characteristics, the better handling in the field.
Different people use laptops in a different way, and there's no one solution fits all. But for photographers, the rMBP looks like a total winner.
And as we are talking about depreciation: I think the classic MBP will depreciate more than the current rMBP and I can see it discontinued when the next generation rMBP arrives. And a computer from a discontinued series always loses more value than a computer from a new product line, even if it might have some first generation flaws.
The few tests where the rMBP was an outlier seemed to be due to a software issue. According to the author, Adobe and nVidia are looking into it.
To be honest I posted that without reading.
I read the posts from CreativeCow.
Im sure itll all work itself out soon
I'm curious why after reading the AnandTech review people are slamming the machine so much. He was incredibly positive about it and even gave the thing an award. How is that not a machine to buy?
Sure, if you can, wait a year or two till the tech is more common place and therefore cheaper, but if you are in the market for a new machine there is no reason not to get this.
Sure, if you can, wait a year or two till the tech is more common place and therefore cheaper, but if you are in the market for a new machine there is no reason not to get this.
So far, benchmarks actually show RMBP performing relatively poorly with photoshop. So I don't think it's a "total winner" for photographers just yet.
Looks like powering that screen is really taking its toll on an otherwise well specced machine.
i think this was by far the best review. I loved the detail and for a person who hasn't recieved it's macbook pro just yet, I have to say its so great to even Anandtech give it praise.
It is a very thorough review (as his always are), but I still think there's a heavy dose of "I like it because I really, really want to like this new technology." If I had to buy a new notebook now, I might go ahead with this rMBP. But I think there's too much still unsettled (lag, unoptimized apps, screen burn-in, etc.) to make this a clear winner at this point.
To be fair there's an incompatibility issue as they were unable to turn on opencl acceleration on that benchmark. The very little improvement in pure CPU/GPU acceleration in photoshop tells me that when going from to 2011 to 2012 all you're really getting is USB 3.0 and in the case of the rMBP a better screen. The difference in performance between the 2011/2012 MBA is much more significant.
How much cooler do the new ones run? Have you experienced it personally? That is one thing that does interest me.
edit: I just looked at the article again. I must have skipped that portion before.
I haven't installed iStat yet to keep an eye on the temps. One thing I can say is that it is very quiet under circumstances where my 2011 MBP screams. I haven't gotten any burning thighs yet while actually working on my lap.
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That's bad news - so there is a definite drop in performance compared to a comparatively specced classic MBP?
At least it has the bigger GPU package even in the base model - compared to the matte MBP.
Do you have a link to the Photoshop benchmarks?
Are you a photographer? Have you used the machine? If you spend some time it, the truth will be revealed. This machine is fantastic and will put the speed of your workflow into the next dimension. I use Photoshop for less than 5% of my shots, so that benchmark isn't very relevant to me.
On my 17" 2011 MBP, it shows about 30 FPS as well.
Even scrolling past FB doesn't go above 30 FPS.
So I don't think there's anything to worry about.
...except for the glossy screen, the reduced brightness, color accuracy and (most importantly) gamut that the rMBP has. Those last two are kinda' important for photographers.
Only the 2.3GHz cMBP has the 512MB dGPU, the 2.6GHz cMBP has the exact same 1GB GT 650M as the rMBP.
I'm not saying the Retina screen isn't wonderful (it's an amazing piece of technology), but it's not the "perfect" screen that some are claiming, and is actually a regression in some ways (albeit ones that are unimportant to the majority of MBP owners).
Right, had it been with released with Mountain Lion he would have given the machine a Silver rating, and had it upgradability, a gold. So if you don't care about upgrades, this machine is amazing according to Anandtech's review (once on Mountain Lion).
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Nope! The RMBP has that GPU overclocked from the factory, it is running at a higher Mhz than in the classic model. But since it has to run so many more pixels, it ends up a virtual wash between the two in terms of performance.
I read the review on my 10 hour old rMBP, and it's a fantastic review; my first AnandTech review ever actually. Just based on initial impressions, his review is spot on and I'll just throw my two cents here:
- The lag from the browser when I used the rMBP in the Apple Store and Best Buy scared me to death. After Googling for an hour when I got home to see if early adopters had the same issue, I was even more terrified and considered canceling my order. But then, a user here posted this video (along with a few others) showcasing just how much Mountain Lion helps the scrolling issue. Problem solved in my eyes.
- The speakers are fantastic... for a notebooks. I watched The Newsroom pilot (in 480p because my ISP is a POS and wouldn't load 720p fast enough to not buffer every 6 seconds), and it sounded plenty fine, almost pleasant in fact. Very similar to what comes out of my TV when my stereo is turned off (in my opinion).
- 50% of the internet looks beautiful, and the other 50% is terrible. Text looks sharp, and select images (MacRumors logo, Lifehacker logo) look great and make me excited for the future once things slowly get updated. But then I go to Facebook and look at thumbnails. Or read AnandTech's review and all of the pictures are blurry. It's not fun, but it's the price for being on the bleeding edge of display technology.
In the end, I love the machine. It's not without it's flaws but is basically exactly what I expected. AnandTech's review calmed me about only having 8GB of RAM, and in 2-3 years when I'm ready to upgrade to whatever the damn codename will be for the CPU, I'll be ready. Until then, I'll enjoy my new piece and be perfectly ok with being Apple's guinea pig for a year.
- The lag from the browser when I used the rMBP in the Apple Store and Best Buy scared me to death. After Googling for an hour when I got home to see if early adopters had the same issue, I was even more terrified and considered canceling my order. But then, a user here posted this video (along with a few others) showcasing just how much Mountain Lion helps the scrolling issue. Problem solved in my eyes.
- The speakers are fantastic... for a notebooks. I watched The Newsroom pilot (in 480p because my ISP is a POS and wouldn't load 720p fast enough to not buffer every 6 seconds), and it sounded plenty fine, almost pleasant in fact. Very similar to what comes out of my TV when my stereo is turned off (in my opinion).
- 50% of the internet looks beautiful, and the other 50% is terrible. Text looks sharp, and select images (MacRumors logo, Lifehacker logo) look great and make me excited for the future once things slowly get updated. But then I go to Facebook and look at thumbnails. Or read AnandTech's review and all of the pictures are blurry. It's not fun, but it's the price for being on the bleeding edge of display technology.
In the end, I love the machine. It's not without it's flaws but is basically exactly what I expected. AnandTech's review calmed me about only having 8GB of RAM, and in 2-3 years when I'm ready to upgrade to whatever the damn codename will be for the CPU, I'll be ready. Until then, I'll enjoy my new piece and be perfectly ok with being Apple's guinea pig for a year.
Yes, It appears that the rMBP's GT 650M is set with a higher base-clock than that of the cMBP. Does the mobile version of Kepler auto-overclock in the same way as the desktop version? If so, the base clock-speed is relatively unimportant, and it'll be interesting to see if the max "boost" clock-speed for the cMBP is also lower than that of the rMBP.