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I guess I wasn't the only person to notice this:
What are all these Apple execs doing with their legs?

I'll copy/paste some of the article here, as it may be behind a Pay wall.


What are all these Apple executives doing with their legs?


Warning: Reading this may make you self-conscious about how you stand


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By Shira Ovide





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During Apple’s showcase this week for new artificial intelligence and other software, one company employee after another strode into view and assumed the position: standing with legs spread and toes pointing out.





This Apple Stance — as it was dubbed by a private group chat on X, according to one participant — looked awkward when everyone did it. People have noticed the same Apple position at other company product demonstrations, too.


and we call this Apple Stance
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This stance is known as the “ready position” in public speaking and performance, according to Ruth Sherman, a speech and media coach for CEOs and celebrities.


Sherman doesn’t know if Apple executives have been drilled on the technique, which she said is commonly taught and ideal for a public speaker. (Apple declined to comment for this article.) Your body is balanced and can pivot easily to address different parts of an audience.








It might seem like pseudoscience to scrutinize executives’ body positions. But there is a long and occasionally contentious history of research into how body language empowers speakers, ferrets out liars or communicates social cues.





Digging into the Apple event’s optics also gives you a glimpse at the machinations of powerful people and companies.





It’s a safe bet that no body position, hand gesture, utterance or avoidance of articles like “the” is an accident from Apple, which is among the world’s most valuable companies and known for manicuring its products and public image.


‘Power poses’ and the Tory ‘power stance’


British news organizations love to point out officials, mostly from the Conservative Party, doing the “power stance,” with an exaggerated leg splay that resembles the span of the Tower Bridge. (Brits should feel free to grade my analogy.)





Jeremy Hunt joins the Tory power stance crew








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Others have said the U.K. power stance has vibes of Beyoncé, Lynda Carter’s hands-on-hips pose as Wonder Woman, the Power Rangers, the “You Know I Had to Do It to Em” meme or a famous portrait of Henry VIII.


In the early 2010s, there was also a widely discussed TED Talk into the science of “power poses.” The idea was that making your body look confident made you more confident.
 
Between this and the “praying at you“ hand gesture Tim keeps doing in these big empty white spaces inside their big metal donut, it makes it look like Apple is a weird cult run by “corporate life coaches”. As ’quirky” as Jobs’ obsession with wearing the same clothes every day was, strolling out on stage somewhat hunched, unshaven and a little shlubby gave the Impression that he was actually a real human being. These Videos with her slightly supernatural action sequences,make me wonder if they’re all actually fully CGI’d.
 
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Anyone on camera for a company gets Media Training. This is not an Apple thing.
This is true, but apparently they think a detached look is what's ideal for presenting. It looks clean but not very approachable, and I wonder how many of Apple's presenters feel awkward having to present that way. The point brought up about Steve staying casual is definitely worth noting.
 
This is true, but apparently they think a detached look is what's ideal for presenting. It looks clean but not very approachable, and I wonder how many of Apple's presenters feel awkward having to present that way. The point brought up about Steve staying casual is definitely worth noting.
Yes but you have to remember the worldwide audience Apple is presenting to. These things are so media managed I guarantee it was someone’s job to find the most “neutral” way to stand across cultures.

Makes me think of the famous “Clinton thumb point” move he would always do because someone whispered in his ear at time that presidents “don’t point in an accusatory way”.
 
So many wasted space in the OP

If this was a wiki, I would edit it...
 
Between this and the “praying at you“ hand gesture Tim keeps doing in these big empty white spaces inside their big metal donut, it makes it look like Apple is a weird cult run by “corporate life coaches”. As ’quirky” as Jobs’ obsession with wearing the same clothes every day was, strolling out on stage somewhat hunched, unshaven and a little shlubby gave the Impression that he was actually a real human being. These Videos with her slightly supernatural action sequences,make me wonder if they’re all actually fully CGI’d.

And while those past keynotes were often long and drawn out, there‘s something more honest and when done live. It wasn’t only Steve’s gruff appearance, but his pace, cadence and sense of humour.

Everything from missteps to audience reaction, I wish we return to some smaller live performances (Google and MS have). But I suspect Tim prefers the video route, given his weak presentation skills.
 
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Some of the Apple execs make it look fairly normal, while some of them look like they're overdoing it.

The politicians have, unsurprisingly, pushed it to the realm of caricature. :p
 
The stances from the Apple people look....fine? I mean it's a bit stiff and corpo but not ridiculous.

The UK politician stances are definitely in goober territory especially the last one with the legs splayed too far apart and pigeon toed.

Unfortunately for americans all pale in comparison to Joe "I literally just **** my depends" Biden.
 
This thread is pretty funny. I got sent, against my desires of course, to a management course a number of years ago. The first hour was how to present yourself to your meagre underlings to maintain control over them and get them to do your bidding. The first thing was how to stand and look magnificent in the face of chaos and align the forces of productivity to bring in that ROI. You get the picture.

I was nearly sick in a bin about three times, discarded all of the advice and generally run by one rule: try not to be one of those wankers.
 
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