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The Beatles are up there with the likes if Bach as far as helping to shape the future of musical style and sound. If you don't know who Bach is then I feel sorry for you.
I know perfectly well who Bach is (and, in fact, who Bach were) and comparing him with the Beatles is musical stupidity at his best.

If my dad happened to have met John Lennon in Liverpool, he could have been in the Beatles too. Overhyped experimental infants who gave the world a little over five decent songs.

So has Madonna.
 
I thought I had heard it all!

Are you seriously comparing Bach to the Beatles?

There are hundreds of doctoral dissertations about Bach and his music. There are people studying his typography....etc. For example, there is a study about the color of the ink he used at the beginning of his Leipzig period. They found a relationship of patterns of writing and the color of the ink according to his age. That's is one of the thousands ways they have tried to find out the date of a single piece. There a lot people who devote their lives to perform or/and study his music.

Have they done that for the Beatles?
I am going to take you as my example form now on. I am going to tell my friends there is someone who compares Bach to the Beatles.

There are plenty of people who study The Beatles work. Their work was even studied as it was written. So much so Lennon wrote songs to confuse them. I mean, there are even college courses on Radiohead's music. I feel there are a lot a music snobs in this thread.
 
Have they done that for the Beatles?

Almost definitely.

I couldn't care less about any comparisons between The Beatles and Bach, but to suggest that people don't commit obsessive amounts of time and effort into analysing just about everything about them is one of the oddest things I've read for a while.
 
I know perfectly well who Bach is (and, in fact, who Bach were) and comparing him with the Beatles is musical stupidity at his best.

If my dad happened to have met John Lennon in Liverpool, he could have been in the Beatles too. Overhyped experimental infants who gave the world a little over five decent songs.

So has Madonna.

Why has Madonna been brought into this thread? (I'm sticking up for the Mo part of my username). She can kick all their a**es.

As far as overhyped...that is your opinion. 5 decent songs? Also your opinion. Obviously people disagree with your opinions, or there would be no need for this thread.

The bottom line is that whatever you want to think of them, the impact they had on a generation can't be denied. Almost half a century later, everyone still knows who they are. That isn't the result of five decent songs. I'm not sure if it's just ignorance or stubbornness, but your comment makes it hard to take you seriously.

And if your Dad can write a song like Imagine, then I'd love to meet him.

The same could be said for Madonna. Her impact wasn't the result of five decent songs either. Both the Beatles and Madonna have both transcended music, in a way that Bach just hasn't done.
 
Regardless of your musical tastes, why anyone who proclaims to care about Apple's success would begrudge them expanding their catalogue to include one of the most influential bands of the 20th century... well, it's a complete mystery to me.

That's not quite it. People were annoyed at the fact that the event was so hyped, not that it was somehow a "bad" thing.
 
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There are plenty of people who study The Beatles work. Their work was even studied as it was written. So much so Lennon wrote songs to confuse them. I mean, there are even college courses on Radiohead's music. I feel there are a lot a music snobs in this thread.

When you study harmony, who are you going to study the most? Bach
When you study Music History of the Baroque era, who is going to take the biggest part of the semester? Bach.
When you study Harpsichord or organ, who is the biggest composer you are going to study? Bach. Even when you do piano, you are going to study Bach at leas at the beginning before your Liszt and Rachmaninoff.

I know they teach popular music at universities. The course on popular is music is optional. My wife took a course on popular music at Montreal university. They studied the Beatles for about 20 minutes of the whole semester. I did my bachelor's in the USA, my master's in Paris, DEM in Paris and my doctorate at Montreal. I know 20 is minutes is the most the Beatles are going to get. That's how important they are to music history. Perhaps, they are important in popular music.

You think you know about music, but your knowledge is very limited. It is just plain ridiculous to compare them to Bach.
 
Why has Madonna been brought into this thread? (I'm sticking up for the Mo part of my username). She can kick all their a**es.

As far as overhyped...that is your opinion. 5 decent songs? Also your opinion. Obviously people disagree with your opinions, or there would be no need for this thread.

The bottom line is that whatever you want to think of them, the impact they had on a generation can't be denied. Almost half a century later, everyone still knows who they are. That isn't the result of five decent songs. I'm not sure if it's just ignorance or stubbornness, but your comment makes it hard to take you seriously.

And if your Dad can write a song like Imagine, then I'd love to meet him.

The same could be said for Madonna. Her impact wasn't the result of five decent songs either. Both the Beatles and Madonna have both transcended music, in a way that Bach just hasn't done.
I said if my dad ever met John Lennon: that meant that JL is about the only one with musical talent in the Beatles. Try reading a little bit better next time.

And suggesting, or even blatantly stating, that Beatles and Madonna have transcended music more than Bach is about as musically stupid as it comes. Bach not only wrote his own music (Madonna just drops into a studio every now and then), he could also conduct orchestras (the Beatles could do one thing individually; that's why they are called the Fab FOUR), his impact on developing Baroque music is unquestioned and his composition skills and musical knowledge have been admired by the likes of Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven.

24 must be your musical IQ; get some education before you enter discussions like this.
 
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I'm saying that all those people who said, "Everyone who likes the Beatles already have all of their albums" (ahem, that list includes me! :eek:) weren't just wrong, they were epically wrong. :cool:

Kudos and 100 Internet Points to you for being one of the few to actually have the balls to say so.

Don't worry, I'm sure the majority of the others will be just as vocal, patronising and stubborn with their knee-jerk opinions when the next Apple 'Epic Fail' is announced.
 
I know perfectly well who Bach is (and, in fact, who Bach were) and comparing him with the Beatles is musical stupidity at his best.

If my dad happened to have met John Lennon in Liverpool, he could have been in the Beatles too. Overhyped experimental infants who gave the world a little over five decent songs.

So has Madonna.

Wow. Just, Wow! :confused:

I agree with the previous poster who said that The Beatles are underrated. I didn't think they were but i do now.
 
I love how everybody is like "I've got the CDs who cares" or "Buy the CDs they are cheaper". The Beatles on iTunes isn't for you. It is for people who don't buy CDs, it's for the future when the majority of people get digital music and it's certainly for a whole generation of kids who won't know what a CD is or care, in the same way that vinyl is now seen as archaic.

I'm sure I am repeating someone else's thoughts, but it doesn't seem clear to a lot of people.

It's too bad that these kids will never know how much better sounding a CD can be over 256kbs. I put applelossless on my iPod and when I let someone listen they usually say wow! it sounds so good.
 
sorry...but her stuff is light years ahead of that old outdated sound.

Haha, Kesha who?

Comment again when you are 18, if she is still around in 6 years:)

Maybe the Beatles should have worn meat suits to please today's generation of ignorant , uneducated followers who like celebrities just for being famous.

Just look at the sales numbers every year (not only on itunes) if that is your only measuring stick.

Beatles win:)
 
When you study harmony, who are you going to study the most? Bach
When you study Music History of the Baroque era, who is going to take the biggest part of the semester? Bach.
When you study Harpsichord or organ, who is the biggest composer you are going to study? Bach. Even when you do piano, you are going to study Bach at leas at the beginning before your Liszt and Rachmaninoff.

I know they teach popular music at universities. The course on popular is music is optional. My wife took a course on popular music at Montreal university. They studied the Beatles for about 20 minutes of the whole semester. I did my bachelor's in the USA, my master's in Paris, DEM in Paris and my doctorate at Montreal. I know 20 is minutes is the most the Beatles are going to get. That's how important they are to music history. Perhaps, they are important in popular music.

You think you know about music, but your knowledge is very limited. It is just plain ridiculous to compare them to Bach.

I never said nobody studies Bach when studying music. Of course they do. Even The Beatles did. But you were implying that no one studies The Beatles period, which just isn't true. And as a side note, there is no way to study Music History of the Baroque era in relation to The Beatles considering they weren't alive in the Baroque era. :)

And aren't you just a bit arrogant to assume to know my musical background? Please come off your high horse. You may not like The Beatles but to say they contribute/contributed nothing to music is ridiculous.
 
I love how everybody is like "I've got the CDs who cares" or "Buy the CDs they are cheaper". The Beatles on iTunes isn't for you. It is for people who don't buy CDs, it's for the future when the majority of people get digital music and it's certainly for a whole generation of kids who won't know what a CD is or care, in the same way that vinyl is now seen as archaic.

I'm sure I am repeating someone else's thoughts, but it doesn't seem clear to a lot of people.

Vinyl record might be something "archaic" in some peoples' opinion, but digital music can become a "fossil" in the future (in a very near future i hope :D). And don't worry, there are a lot of people who care about vinyl records; for instance a musician candidate like me.
 
It's too bad that these kids will never know how much better sounding a CD can be over 256kbs. I put applelossless on my iPod and when I let someone listen they usually say wow! it sounds so good.

I agree. I think at some point (hopefully) Apple will offer Apple Lossless as an iTunes standard. It will just take a small leap in processing power (CPU or GPU) to convert the files quickly on the fly when syncing. I think we're close, as they do it now, but it still takes too long.

But at 256 I think you get very close for most people to find it hard to distinguish between a Lossless file and an AAC file.
 
Maybe the Beatles should have worn meat suits to please today's generation of ignorant , uneducated followers who like celebrities just for being famous.

The Beatles did the meat thing in 1966. ;)

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Vinyl record might be something "archaic" in some peoples' opinion, but digital music can become a "fossil" in the future (in very near future i hope). And don't worry, there are a lot of people who care about vinyl records; for instance a musician candidate like me.

Well, it's really a risk with all media formats/mediums in general. However, it's all likely going to be digital moving forward regardless of the file extension on the end of the file.

I love vinyl myself.
 
All this proves is that Beatles fans like to waste their money repurchasing music they already own just because it's available in a new format. I bet that most of the albums and individual songs sold were purchased by people who already own that album/song.

I had about 6 albums on vinyl. I don't have a record player anymore and didn't want to buy CDs, that's why I bought the collection on iTunes.

You can't guess everyone's reasons. Live and Let Live!
 
I agree. I think at some point (hopefully) Apple will offer Apple Lossless as an iTunes standard. It will just take a small leap in processing power (CPU or GPU) to convert the files quickly on the fly when syncing. I think we're close, as they do it now, but it still takes too long.

But at 256 I think you get very close for most people to find it hard to distinguish between a Lossless file and an AAC file.

I agree, I don't know why apple doesn't already offer applelossless as a choice. I have found that simple music (one guy with a folk guitar) can get away with 256kbs but listen to some busy, complicated music and 256kbs sounds a little muffled compared to the cd (not that cds are perfect).
 
I said if my dad ever met John Lennon: that meant that JL is about the only one with musical talent in the Beatles. Try reading a little bit better next time.

And suggesting, or even blatantly stating, that Beatles and Madonna have transcended music more than Bach is about as musically stupid as it comes. Bach not only wrote his own music (Madonna just drops into a studio every now and then), he could also conduct orchestras (the Beatles could do one thing individually; that's why they are called the Fab FOUR), his impact on developing Baroque music is unquestioned and his composition skills and musical knowledge have been admired by the likes of Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven.

24 must be your musical IQ; get some education before you enter discussions like this.

I think you need to do a little history reading on The Beatles before you embarrass yourself even more.

Seriously.
 
I think you need to do a little history reading on The Beatles before you embarrass yourself even more.

Seriously.

I am dazzled by your arguments, finished nicely with the 'let's focus on the messenger because I don't have a clue what I am talking about'.

Move on, son: this is not your topic.
 
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