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I tried to explain to a Windows computer user that Apple's memory is fabricated into the processor chip and that Apple doesn't use the RAM modules that the Windows computer uses. As such Apple is not affected by the windows computer RAM price increases although Apple has always charged a premium for their memory :(.
The RAM price increases aren’t limited to DIMMs, as they are caused by OpenAI buying up almost half of 2026’s supply of RAM wafers, which basically affects everyone. Apple uses LPDDR, which is merely packaged together with the CPU/GPU/NPU, it’s not on the same die.
 
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The thing about the crash coming soon is that Micron serves the AI sector and probably has better info about how that is doing now and for the foreseeable future than anyone here. It still decided to exit the consumer sector, not mothball or reduce but fully nix it. If the crash is supposedly coming soon, I can't think the board at Micron would have put all of its eggs in such a short term basket.
The consumer market for individual RAM components and SSDs is comparatively small, and doesn’t include hardware integrators. It doesn’t mean that laptop manufacturers and the like won’t still be integrating Micron components. Only the consumer-facing Crucial brand is shutting down.
 
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My concern is Apple is missing a trick by keeping RAM and SSD prices artificially low. They should move prices up with the market and profit from whatever prices they've locked in with suppliers for however long. This will also help customers adjust to the new normal in RAM and SSD prices.

I know this was raised during the last earnings call, but the answer was very vague.
You paid to say this or just drunk? Apple pushes prices past what the market is willing to bear Apple will see a significant drop off in sales, business basics 101. What Apple will do is absorb as much of the cost as possible as they are already at the pricing limit for many, that's reality. Everyone knows the AI bubble is going to pop, just a question of when...

Apple's stock price is already trending down, guess you want to push that down further?
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Many western economies are struggling, very last people want is inflated prices on toys they don't need...

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You paid to say this or just drunk? Apple pushes prices past what the market is willing to bear Apple will see a significant drop off in sales, business basics. What Apple will do is absorb as much of the cost as possible as they are already at the pricing limit for most, that's reality. Everyone knows the AI bubble is going to pop, just a question of when...

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Apple are not absorbing increased costs. They have locked in supply chain contracts at fixed prices before the current price surge. When those contracts expire and need to be renewed, you will see price hikes. Margins will be protected and sales won't drop. Apple customers are locked into the ecosystem.
 
IDC published an updated report last week (link). Some selected quotes:

“However, this is not just a cyclical shortage driven by a mismatch in supply and demand, but a potentially permanent, strategic reallocation of the world’s silicon wafer capacity. For decades, the production of DRAM and NAND Flash for smartphones and PCs was the primary driver for production. Today, that dynamic has inverted. The voracious demand for HBM by hyperscalers, such as Microsoft, Google, Meta and Amazon, has forced the three biggest memory manufacturers (Samsung Electronics, SK Hynix, and Micron Technology) to pivot their limited cleanroom space and capital expenditure towards higher margin enterprise-grade components. This is a zero-sum game: every wafer allocated to an HBM stack for an Nvidia GPU is a wafer denied to the LPDDR5X module of a mid-range smartphone or the SSD of a consumer laptop.”

“If the smartphone market is facing pressure, the PC market is bracing for disruption. The timing of the memory shortage creates a perfect storm for the PC industry, colliding with the Microsoft Windows 10 end-of-life refresh cycle and the AI PC marketing push.

“PC vendors are signalling broad price increases as cost pressures intensify into H2 2026. Lenovo, Dell, HP, Acer and ASUS have warned clients of tougher conditions ahead, confirming 15-20% hikes and contract resets as an industry-wide response.

“White box as well as lower tier (often local) vendors, on the other hand, will bear the greatest burden of the shortage, and that would include DIY systems, oftentimes built by gamers. That in turn represents an opportunity for large OEMs to gain share from smaller assemblers in the gaming space by positioning pre-built systems as offering higher value.”

Personally, I wouldn’t bet on this reverting even in 2027.
 
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Apple are not absorbing increased costs. They have locked in supply chain contracts at fixed prices before the current price surge. When those contracts expire and need to be renewed, you will see price hikes. Margins will be protected and sales won't drop. Apple customers are locked into the ecosystem.
They have no choice going forward, simple as that silicon prices are going to rise. Only fools are locked into a company's ecosystem, but that's the game...

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IDC published an updated report last week (link). Some selected quotes:

“However, this is not just a cyclical shortage driven by a mismatch in supply and demand, but a potentially permanent, strategic reallocation of the world’s silicon wafer capacity. For decades, the production of DRAM and NAND Flash for smartphones and PCs was the primary driver for production. Today, that dynamic has inverted. The voracious demand for HBM by hyperscalers, such as Microsoft, Google, Meta and Amazon, has forced the three biggest memory manufacturers (Samsung Electronics, SK Hynix, and Micron Technology) to pivot their limited cleanroom space and capital expenditure towards higher margin enterprise-grade components. This is a zero-sum game: every wafer allocated to an HBM stack for an Nvidia GPU is a wafer denied to the LPDDR5X module of a mid-range smartphone or the SSD of a consumer laptop.”

“If the smartphone market is facing pressure, the PC market is bracing for disruption. The timing of the memory shortage creates a perfect storm for the PC industry, colliding with the Microsoft Windows 10 end-of-life refresh cycle and the AI PC marketing push.

“PC vendors are signalling broad price increases as cost pressures intensify into H2 2026. Lenovo, Dell, HP, Acer and ASUS have warned clients of tougher conditions ahead, confirming 15-20% hikes and contract resets as an industry-wide response.

“White box as well as lower tier (often local) vendors, on the other hand, will bear the greatest burden of the shortage, and that would include DIY systems, oftentimes built by gamers. That in turn represents an opportunity for large OEMs to gain share from smaller assemblers in the gaming space by positioning pre-built systems as offering higher value.”

Personally, I wouldn’t bet on this reverting even in 2027.

I’m on the investment side. This will pass mid 2026. It’s damaging other industries indirectly and that’s starting to hurt investment capital. Not only that there’s no sign of any calculable ROI. Literally it’s riding on lies and people edging to be the last one making a gain before it goes off a cliff. Someone will pull the plug on the whole thing soon enough. There are already distancing and damage control measures being quietly implemented. The rebound is going to be a complete massacre of tech and dependent companies.

End of 2026 PC going to be cheaper for sure.

Edit: the big hit I see coming is the next cycle of cloud price increases (they gotta buy ram and replace hardware). That will stunt growth. That will kill the sector dead as it’s propped on future revenue and debt.
 
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This will pass mid 2026.
I would hope for that, but I tend to bet against my biases, and I’m seeing no slowdown at all from the software industry side of things, nor do I expect rational markets.
 
I would hope for that, but I tend to bet against my biases, and I’m seeing no slowdown at all from the software industry side of things, nor do I expect rational markets.

The software side is definitely crapping out already. There's a lot of half-truths not being told in that space. Short term productivity boost, longer term costs both from failures and risks and on escalating token costs. There's also resistance towards the technology as it's not really solving the right problems in that space. I mean you gotta look at it from my perspective: "why the hell do I want something writing acres of ReactJS for me which can't even replicate something you can pointy-click in MS Access in 10 minutes which I could 30 years ago". The software industry built abstractions so complicated that they are using it to drive those, not solve actual business problems. We've just become short-sighted tool driving monkeys. When they try and solve actual business problems, like automation, they require accuracy and determinism to be functionally better than the humans they are replacing and that's not what you get out of an LLM.

It's an absolute disaster.

As for an irrational market, it'll die suddenly. This is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.
 
I hope you are wrong, it seems some of the most interesting innovations in 'computer languages' have their roots in gaming while 'serious' programming lags behind. I am not a gamer, but I recognize excellent implementation and design when I see it - the gaming developers demonstrate technically excellent work
 
I hope you are wrong, it seems some of the most interesting innovations in 'computer languages' have their roots in gaming while 'serious' programming lags behind. I am not a gamer, but I recognize excellent implementation and design when I see it - the gaming developers demonstrate technically excellent work

Which gaming developers? I know a lot of people in that industry and it's mostly straw, excrement and prayers holding everything together.

For ref was embedded systems in defence sector for a while, then domain-specific language implementation. I know how to make stuff that can't go wrong because you can't get to it to fix it or it might kill people and it looks nothing like the commercial software sector and definitely not the gaming lot.
 
Apple hasn't increased pricing because they have contracts. Those contracts may not be in place for 2026, so we may see price increases with the M5 products in 2026.

Yup, but with the number of products, stability of sales, and sheer quantity of said products they ship, they can likely negotiate better margins than others.

Aware their existing contract expires in January, this is why i bought the ipad pro last week.
 
Which gaming developers? I know a lot of people in that industry and it's mostly straw, excrement and prayers holding everything together.

For ref was embedded systems in defence sector for a while, then domain-specific language implementation. I know how to make stuff that can't go wrong because you can't get to it to fix it or it might kill people and it looks nothing like the commercial software sector and definitely not the gaming lot.
unfortunately my experience with 'serious languages' suggest they have created too many unresolved ambiguities in their language definition (implies bugs / zero day exploits fixes which resemble the old whack-a-mole game). the language definitions seem consistent but the underlying assumptions may in fact be contradictory - much like natural language and its use in LLM's.
 
Paid $720 for a 64GB kit the other day. Painful but I expect it to only go up.
So does most of the industry through until 2027 at the earliest.

I can only get 14 day quotes for server hardware right now, due to RAM price increases.

AI/Datacentre is simply consuming all manufacturing capacity, and spinning up a new fab to make more ram both isn’t cheap and isn’t fast. Takes years.
 
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As for an irrational market, it'll die suddenly. This is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.
Is going to be a disaster of epic proportions, just matter of time. All the red flags are there, but you know how it is, greed & money...

Software side is needlessly complex, lacking elegancy & optimisation with most wanting to jump on the subscription gravy train for basically poor if not broken products. Gaming wise some independent studios are on the money and care about the players. Most of the big names sold out years back, releasing broken garbage, treating the players like ATM's, equally karma is coming.

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So does most of the industry through until 2027 at the earliest.

I can only get 14 day quotes for server hardware right now, due to RAM price increases.

AI/Datacentre is simply consuming all manufacturing capacity, and spinning up a new fab to make more ram both isn’t cheap and isn’t fast. Takes years.
Seeing the same here in the far east, companies are only guaranteeing prices for 14 days for online sales. Thankfully I'm out the game, Feb 2026 brace yourself. New phone, new gaming PC, new tablet reasons for that...

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Seeing the same here in the far east, companies are only guaranteeing prices for 14 days for online sales. Thankfully I'm out the game, Feb 2026 brace yourself. New phone, new gaming PC, new tablet reasons for that...

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Yeah happily 2024-2025 was my scheduled “upgrade all the things” year. well, except the watch. hopefully i’m good for a couple of years.

The PC side though… my AM4 build holds on for another year.
 
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unfortunately my experience with 'serious languages' suggest they have created too many unresolved ambiguities in their language definition (implies bugs / zero day exploits fixes which resemble the old whack-a-mole game). the language definitions seem consistent but the underlying assumptions may in fact be contradictory - much like natural language and its use in LLM's.

Well it depends on what you mean by contradictory. If we're talking about synthesizing code from requirements then perhaps but you can write formal proofs for those requirements. Not only that with the aid of proof assistants and verified compilers (which are backed with machine-checked formal proofs) then what you have is determinism. That kills nearly all implementation flaws, leaving only proof flaws left.

As for bugs you have to consider what the implementation class of the bug is. Is it a problem in the conceptual design or the implementation. The point of proofs is to remove all implementation issues. As for zero-days and exploits, most of those come from implementation flaws or poorly thought out conceptual designs which do not have a suitable level of rigour applied to them. It's not cat-and-mouse but the fact formally verified software is really expensive and we're happy with being served muck so we don't have to pay for it. Until you get on an Airbus or something of course...

Nearly all the bugs I have encountered over the years were easily avoidable by not hiring morons though.

(I'll keep away from magic fad languages - I can write a Rust program that craps out nearly instantly without even touching unsafe)
 
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Yeah, i’ve got about 50 servers to replace. cost of doing business.

Am looking more seriously at what we can cloud host though, for this, and other reasons.

Yeah good luck. I have been told cloud pricing is going up in line with this too. And ours at least is already expensive as hell.
 
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