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For years in al-a-carte & cut-the-cord threads this has been discussed, typically shot down like it won't ever happen and yet, here it comes...

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ready-home-internet-prices-double-160153862.html

No surprise at all to me. When a business basically has a monopoly on the pipe and some other service is eating away at bread & butter revenues while depending entirely on that very same pipe, the obvious & simplest solution is to raise the tolls. Cable will still get theirs whether you subscribe to cable TV or not.

For many, where are you going to go? If you are lucky enough to live in an area with more than one choice of broadband, isn't the other player ALSO in the cable TV business, feeling the very same pains and thus likely to choose the very same solution?

How much does your broadband pricing have to increase before it gets to the old double-play or triple-play pricing?
 
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Internet, cable, mobile, etc prices are all too high already. My plan with Rogers in Canada is $99/month for "unlimited" internet at 150mbps download and 15mbps upload.

I just did a speed test and this is the result.
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For years in al-a-carte & cut-the-cord threads this has been discussed, typically shot down like it won't ever happen and yet, here it comes...

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ready-home-internet-prices-double-160153862.html

No surprise at all to me. When a business basically has a monopoly on the pipe and some other service is eating away at bread & butter revenues while depending entirely on that very same pipe, the obvious & simplest solution is to raise the tolls. Cable will still get theirs whether you subscribe to cable TV or not.

For many, where are you going to go? If you are lucky enough to live in an area with more than one choice of broadband, isn't the other player ALSO in the cable TV business, feeling the very same pains and thus likely to choose the very same solution?

How much does your broadband pricing have to increase before it gets to the old double-play or triple-play pricing?


thos why I don't understand chord cutting. Unless you live in a place where there's plenty of broadband choices or you just don't like tv, the exercise is pointless. I pay $129 for Xfinity tripple play. If I went broadband only, i'd be paying $80 plus the hidden fees.
 
Personally I didn't "cut the cord" primarily because I thought it would be less expensive, but because my viewing habits have changed. I watch almost exclusively on demand these days (on Netflix, Hulu, HBO Now, or purchased iTunes content). I don't like watching on someone else's schedule, and I cannot stand TV commercials anymore. I had a DirectTV Now trial for a few months and barely used it.

It is true though that we urgently need more competition in the broadband ISP market. Instead we seem to be seeing more consolidation. That is a worrying trend. I live in the middle of Silicon Valley and there is no other choice than Comcast if I want reasonable speed. AT&T has finally started to deploy FTTH in some neighbourhoods, but it's going very slowly. :rolleyes:
 
thos why I don't understand chord cutting. Unless you live in a place where there's plenty of broadband choices or you just don't like tv, the exercise is pointless. I pay $129 for Xfinity tripple play. If I went broadband only, i'd be paying $80 plus the hidden fees.

Most of what I like to watch is on over the top video services like Amazon and Netflix etc. My cable savings, even with the internet price increase more then pays for my Netflix and Amazon. Additionally the regular TV channels are OTA, do not miss their crappy DVR’s, multiple room rental devices, and the never ending contract negotiations. For me better TV experience and in reality save a few bucks. My internet provider now offering wireless at a good discount for bundling with internet, a few more savings. Not all about the price, however.
 
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My TV is also watching Amazon Prime and Netflix, plus MLB.tv. Like others, I want to watch on my schedule and I got fed up with DVR recording etc. and hated being tethered to a set.

I’ve saved a ton since I left Time-Warner. If there’s a network show I must see I can generally buy it through Amazon.

My wireless internet at home (and traveling) is a Verizon MiFi with unlimited data offered at a discount through my university.
 
My TV is also watching Amazon Prime and Netflix, plus MLB.tv. Like others, I want to watch on my schedule and I got fed up with DVR recording etc. and hated being tethered to a set.

I’ve saved a ton since I left Time-Warner. If there’s a network show I must see I can generally buy it through Amazon.

My wireless internet at home (and traveling) is a Verizon MiFi with unlimited data offered at a discount through my university.

My cable company supports all thevairous network apps and has its own mobile apps. So im not tethered at all. But then I also won't watch any media on some small, crappy computer or mobile screen. So being "tethered" isn't a big deal for me.
 
My cable company supports all thevairous network apps and has its own mobile apps. So im not tethered at all. But then I also won't watch any media on some small, crappy computer or mobile screen. So being "tethered" isn't a big deal for me.
For me, still schedule bound and still too expensive and yes, not mobile friendly.

But then, I actually prefer watching on my iPad or iPhone, so all of this combines to make staying with a cable company stupid—for me. I love the original content on Amazon and Netflix and the Amazon access to British TV and other channels. I can design my viewing for the month, then cancel.

I get to watch what I want when I want.

When I want to see a big screen or watch with others, there’s Apple TV.

All I hope for now is the Amazon Apple TV app, although I don’t mind just using AirPlay.
 
Yup. Comc**t monopoly here all the way. "Double-play" is not much more than internet only, BUT you are paying for SD video. No thanks - I'll stick to my free OTA HD & Apple TV!

I tried DSL "broadband", and it's not even close as the technology limits upload speeds to 800kbps (even though they advertise 1 mbps!)
 
For years in al-a-carte & cut-the-cord threads this has been discussed, typically shot down like it won't ever happen and yet, here it comes...

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ready-home-internet-prices-double-160153862.html

No surprise at all to me. When a business basically has a monopoly on the pipe and some other service is eating away at bread & butter revenues while depending entirely on that very same pipe, the obvious & simplest solution is to raise the tolls. Cable will still get theirs whether you subscribe to cable TV or not.

For many, where are you going to go? If you are lucky enough to live in an area with more than one choice of broadband, isn't the other player ALSO in the cable TV business, feeling the very same pains and thus likely to choose the very same solution?

How much does your broadband pricing have to increase before it gets to the old double-play or triple-play pricing?

I don’t get the notion of cord cutting if you are just switching from one cord to another.

Real cord cutting is utilizing an antenna for all your tv needs.
 
For years in al-a-carte & cut-the-cord threads this has been discussed, typically shot down like it won't ever happen and yet, here it comes...

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ready-home-internet-prices-double-160153862.html

No surprise at all to me. When a business basically has a monopoly on the pipe and some other service is eating away at bread & butter revenues while depending entirely on that very same pipe, the obvious & simplest solution is to raise the tolls. Cable will still get theirs whether you subscribe to cable TV or not.

For many, where are you going to go? If you are lucky enough to live in an area with more than one choice of broadband, isn't the other player ALSO in the cable TV business, feeling the very same pains and thus likely to choose the very same solution?

How much does your broadband pricing have to increase before it gets to the old double-play or triple-play pricing?

Where is the evidence here it comes? that is the opinion of that person, not fact
 
Thanks for share. it's interesting to hear. I'm also planning to see all the movies that went to theaters. I think I will start with a review of the movies I watched.
yify tv
 
Where is the evidence here it comes? that is the opinion of that person, not fact

I wasn't trying to make a court case- just sharing an article pointing to what I see as a logical outcome as more and more people dump cable/satt for variations of al-a-carte & "cord-cutting."

If I'm big Cable and a new kind of competitor is biting into my cable revenues but those competitors are entirely dependent on my (broadband) pipe to function, I flex the monopoly/duopoly muscle that I have to make up for my losses. There's even precedent: recall when wireless data was tiered to address the problem of 'high bandwidth users," "...like streaming video watchers."

Of course, one can believe whatever they wish, but the logical businessman in me looks at this particular "problem" from their perspective and the answer seems extraordinarily clear. Granted, some "opinion" could be wrong, but then I'll simply toss the ball to anyone reading this thread: if you are in their (cable's) shoes (with the press of your obligation to maximize ROI for your shareholders), what would you do to address this (business revenue) "problem?"

You can't stop Netflix, Hulu, Sling, PSVue, DirecTV, etc from existing. But what's the ONE thing they all have in common that has them ALL 100% dependent on something you own and completely control? Now how can you exploit that complete dependency to address your problem?

Looking at it from as many angles as possible, I don't see any other way for this to go. Just as Apple is free to raise prices on new Apple products, there's no law stopping them from raising prices on their product. Just as their wireless cousins rationalized tiers for "heavy bandwidth users", why can't wired do the same... for the very same reason? It seems an easy case (or just corporate messaging spin) that more and more video streaming demands huge investments (whether real or just spin) in wired broadband solutions to deliver (and keep delivering) all that video. Etc.

But most importantly, where are you going to go? Many have 1 player as broadband provider. Those that may have "competition" of maybe 2 players should take note that BOTH are probably in the cable TV business too. For example, I'm in the latter group with a "choice" between Comcast & AT&T Uverse. Both offer a subscription TV service. Both feel the same pains. Both have the same card to play. Do I believe that if one raises their broadband price for this reasoning, the other will keep their's "as is"? Almost not at all. Instead, I expect both to "evolve" pricing to "get their overall revenues back on track in a changing video consumption environment."
 
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I don’t get the notion of cord cutting if you are just switching from one cord to another.

Real cord cutting is utilizing an antenna for all your tv needs.

Most people need broadband as a part of their daily lives: school, work, banking, medical, etc. So the point is that even if you "cut-the-cord", the same companies will just raise the price of your broadband internet connection in an effort to coerce you to stay with their TV bundle packages.
 
thos why I don't understand chord cutting. Unless you live in a place where there's plenty of broadband choices or you just don't like tv, the exercise is pointless. I pay $129 for Xfinity tripple play. If I went broadband only, i'd be paying $80 plus the hidden fees.

I'm no math teacher, but that seems like a savings of ~$50/mo....
 
I moved to a rural area in 2006 and couldn't get any kind of wired cable or internet, I used HughesNet satellite for the first year and the latency drove me crazy. The good thing is that I did not miss cable TV at all and quit it cold turkey - one of the best things to ever happen to me.

A year later Verizon offered DSL that was about 600kbit so I switched. Got a new router a couple years ago and that bumped me up to about 1mbit down/700kbit up. I thought that was about all I'd ever get, but our local legislators basically shamed Verizon into bringing FIOS to our little town (evidently they had not lived up to previous regulatory filings regarding the amount of broadband they would offer).

Over the summer, Verizon buried 800 feet of fiber under my driveway and I now have 150mbit up/150mb down that is fantastic. It really is that fast, I can upload 1gb to Vimeo in less than a minute. There was no installation charge and my monthly bill is fixed at $85 for two years.

Who knows what will happen after that, will have to deal with it at the time, I assume it will get more expensive. They certainly aren't making any money off me now, considering what the installation must have cost them.

But I was paying $70/month for their crummy DSL (and I could have gotten 75/75 FIOS for the same price if I wanted to). I still have zero interest in cable TV, my cord is permanently cut and I don't use streaming. Have found much better ways to spend my time than watching TV. :)
 
I saw that article too...hoping it doesn't come to fruition any time soon.
Another bad news (at least I think I remember this from last week or the week prior) is the Federal Gov't dropped the Broadband speed to a lesser amount, meaning they can claim to offer hi-speed broadband and it isn't actually hi-speed.

We have a triple-play package. Currently through Verizon FIOS, but have switched between them and Comcast/Xfinity the past 6-8 years. That has been helpful at keeping the price in a general area. I wonder if the Internet portion of a package deal will still remain cheap and only those that JUST want Internet will get the hefty fee/increase.

I have looked into "cord cutting" but at the time it seems slightly harder to do and a bit more work to ensure I get the channels I want, in a price range I can feel good about. We have friends that tried the cord cutting and would have Hulu or Netflix or HBO or some streaming service along with Sling and an Antenna...but then the antenna wasn't picking up signals and they had to buy into a low-end cable TV package to watch college sports/local sports.

I feel the companies should just sell you internet (data) based on the speed. if you want to split that data over phones, computers, TV streaming, and more it'll just give a slower signal to each device.
 
my comcast bill was approaching $150 after my promotions ran out for just internet and tv (digital starter i think, decent channels but not a premium package). all the fees killed it, hd, box rentals, taxes etc. I pay $50 a month for just comcast internet (25mbps), I think it was $60 and they gave me a $10 loyalty discount when I talked to retentions about needing to keep my costs down. I have my own modem so no rental fees and there are no other hidden fees or taxes on my bill. I have an ota antenna, netflix and amazon prime, and family that has a cable subscription so I can log into some other apps :) Unfortunately Comcast is my only option for internet. Verizon refuses to dig up the roads in my neighborhood (condos/townhouses). everywhere else around here is fios ready. Would love to jump between internet promos :(
 
Most people need broadband as a part of their daily lives: school, work, banking, medical, etc. So the point is that even if you "cut-the-cord", the same companies will just raise the price of your broadband internet connection in an effort to coerce you to stay with their TV bundle packages.

Unless you live in a place where you can’t get OTA signals. You can get all your broadcast signals without the need for internet.
 
My "cord-cutting" is exclusively using iTunes. I spend about $200 a year on iTunes content (season passes for the shows I watch). TV show gets released, and I can watch it on my time. I download it to my external drive so I only need to download something once.

This is why I was so pissed at Apple for having 4K HDR footage streaming only. I have Spectrum 300mbps plan. Our neighborhood has horrible wiring. I am constantly buffering, and every few days I get down to the 5-15 mbps range. Every time I call them they say it is an issue on their end.
 
Not really wanting to hijack my own thread here but post #18 makes me want to share a recent change at my place. I've long argued the best balance of cost & quality is DISH in many threads. Policing them well (meaning getting on the phone and threatening to cancel to get a "special deal" regularly) and not having too many TVs to feed (proprietary box lease rentals do add up) kept them priced pretty low. Comcast for a "double play" covered broadband + land line phone (which yes, does still have a place in the modern world).

Cord cutting and al-a-carte threads have always been interesting but every option for streaming sacrificed something I considered very important (Dolby Digital 5.1 surround) and other niceties (the fully-featured, generally-unhindered DVR experience- virtual DVRs still seem lacking, or not being able to watch a first run show until a day or more later). Nevertheless, I've kept my eyes open.

I live in an HOA where Comcast already has itself embedded in the HOA fee. So indirectly, I've been paying for some Comcast cable TV too even if I never used it. However, in al-a-carte/CC research, a number of smart people around here turned me onto the combo of the terrific Channels app for :apple:TV which works with HDHomeRun boxes from Silicon Dust.

I picked up a couple HDHomeRun boxes (4 tuners for local OTA signals and 3 tuners for cable) and hooked 'em up. The Channels app has added really good DVR functionality which works with my own storage. I wanted a few channels NOT available in the included HOA package, so I visited Comcast to get a cable card and got the upgrade to get the rest of the channels I wanted. Of course, they wanted money for both but it was not a lot of money.

Long story short: this made me into a Comcast "triple play" user in their system, discounted by the HOA fee which had total cost for all 3 services arrive at what DISH was costing alone. I get all the TV channels I desire, with a fully functional DVR with "unlimited" storage and no odd requirements (like stored shows being deleted in 30 days, etc) and everything is in HD and Dolby Digital Surround. Channels app brings a classic cable/satt guide to :apple:TV so it's easy to see what's on every stream without having to just magically know and/or hopping app-to-app.

One of the biggest hassles of the cable bill is the leased box costs for multi-TV households. However, this combo SHARES the HDHomeRun boxes and shares the DVR, all running through the Channels App installed on multiple :apple:TVs. Conceptually, I could have 50 TVs in my house and the monthly fee to feed them all is the same as if I have only 1 TV.

If I had a LOT of TVs to feed at the same time, there is a fixed cost to potentially buy more HDhomerun boxes to add more available tuners... and more :apple:TVs so they all have a box on which to run the Channels app. But the setup "as is" is feeding 3 TVs just fine with 3 available tuners for cable channels and 4 for local OTA channels.

Channels is not the free or dirt cheap app you may expect all apps to be on :apple:TV. But for about $25 once, and a DVR service fee of $8/month, it is pretty much a FANTASTIC alternative to every other option I researched. If I didn't care about Dolby Digital 5.1, stuff like PSVue looked like a great backup option. But this option doesn't make me feel like I gave up much vs. DISH while still chopping the price I felt coming out of my wallet (subsidized some by what was coming out for HOA fee anyway) down to combo service level for about the same as DISH alone. Yes, that means I've finally returned to cable but it doesn't FEEL like cable since I'm not using their box- just their cable TV streams.

If your situation is such that you can go the cable card route with your cable provider and a chunk of the pain in the cable bill is in a number of leased boxes, the above might be a good way to go for you too.

Relative to the topic of this thread: If Comcast followed through and:
  • raises the broadband pricing, I could step down the speed to try to manage that move and not lose ANYTHING on the television side.
  • adopts tiered pricing "for high bandwidth" users, I wouldn't be one of those because all this video is excluded from the broadband tally since it's still THEIR cable television signal.
  • tries to raise the price for the boxes or DVR service, I'm immune because I don't have even 1 such box.
  • opts to scramble all channels so that cable card could no longer work here, I could ultimately drop them, switch to the alternative, or go back to DISH and get new subscriber discounts with a 2 or 3-year price lock-in.
The point is that for those still leaning hard on cable but trying to find a way that doesn't jettison full DVR and full DD 5.1, that combination of :apple:TVs with the Channels app and however many tuners you need in HDHomeRun boxes is a good one. My :apple:TVs have never got so much use before, now basically being a single little box that does everything. While I can stream to mobile devices, Comcast does have a pretty good mobile viewing app themselves which doesn't utilize any of the tuners in the HDHomeRun boxes.

If the above sounds like a big commercial- sorry, I have no affiliation to the Channels app developers or Silicon Dust- just passing along something that is working surprisingly well for me, saving me money without making me feel like I had to give up much to get it. And it seems to have multiple ways to beat this particular problem if this problem starts really showing itself.
 
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Not really wanting to hijack my own thread here but post #18 makes me want to share a recent change at my place. I've long argued the best balance of cost & quality is DISH in many threads. Policing them well (meaning getting on the phone and threatening to cancel to get a "special deal" regularly) and not having too many TVs to feed (proprietary box lease rentals do add up) kept them priced pretty low. Comcast for a "double play" covered broadband + land line phone (which yes, does still have a place in the modern world).

Cord cutting and al-a-carte threads have always been interesting but every option for streaming sacrificed something I considered very important (Dolby Digital 5.1 surround) and other niceties (the fully-featured, generally-unhindered DVR experience- virtual DVRs still seem lacking, or not being able to watch a first run show until a day or more later). Nevertheless, I've kept my eyes open.

I live in an HOA where Comcast already has itself embedded in the HOA fee. So indirectly, I've been paying for some Comcast cable TV too even if I never used it. However, in al-a-carte/CC research, a number of smart people around here turned me onto the combo of the terrific Channels app for :apple:TV which works with HDHomeRun boxes from Silicon Dust.

I picked up a couple HDHomeRun boxes (4 tuners for local OTA signals and 3 tuners for cable) and hooked 'em up. The Channels app has added really good DVR functionality which works with my own storage. I wanted a few channels NOT available in the included HOA package, so I visited Comcast to get a cable card and got the upgrade to get the rest of the channels I wanted. Of course, they wanted money for both but it was not a lot of money.

Long story short: this made me into a Comcast "triple play" user in their system, discounted by the HOA fee which had total cost for all 3 services arrive at what DISH was costing alone. I get all the TV channels I desire, with a fully functional DVR with "unlimited" storage and no odd requirements (like stored shows being deleted in 30 days, etc) and everything is in HD and Dolby Digital Surround. Channels app brings a classic cable/satt guide to :apple:TV so it's easy to see what's on every stream without having to just magically know and/or hopping app-to-app.

One of the biggest hassles of the cable bill is the leased box costs for multi-TV households. However, this combo SHARES the HDHomeRun boxes and shares the DVR, all running through the Channels App installed on multiple :apple:TVs. Conceptually, I could have 50 TVs in my house and the monthly fee to feed them all is the same as if I have only 1 TV.

If I had a LOT of TVs to feed at the same time, there is a fixed cost to potentially buy more HDhomerun boxes to add more available tuners... and more :apple:TVs so they all have a box on which to run the Channels app. But the setup "as is" is feeding 3 TVs just fine with 3 available tuners for cable channels and 4 for local OTA channels.

Channels is not the free or dirt cheap app you may expect all apps to be on :apple:TV. But for about $25 once, and a DVR service fee of $8/month, it is pretty much a FANTASTIC alternative to every other option I researched. If I didn't care about Dolby Digital 5.1, stuff like PSVue looked like a great backup option. But this option doesn't make me feel like I gave up much vs. DISH while still chopping the price I felt coming out of my wallet (subsidized some by what was coming out for HOA fee anyway) down to combo service level for about the same as DISH alone. Yes, that means I've finally returned to cable but it doesn't FEEL like cable since I'm not using their box- just their cable TV streams.

If your situation is such that you can go the cable card route with your cable provider and a chunk of the pain in the cable bill is in a number of leased boxes, the above might be a good way to go for you too.

Relative to the topic of this thread: If Comcast followed through and:
  • raises the broadband pricing, I could step down the speed to try to manage that move and not lose ANYTHING on the television side.
  • adopts tiered pricing "for high bandwidth" users, I wouldn't be one of those because all this video is excluded from the broadband tally since it's still THEIR cable television signal.
  • tries to raise the price for the boxes or DVR service, I'm immune because I don't have even 1 such box.
  • opts to scramble all channels so that cable card could no longer work here, I could ultimately drop them, switch to the alternative, or go back to DISH and get new subscriber discounts with a 2 or 3-year price lock-in.
The point is that for those still leaning hard on cable but trying to find a way that doesn't jettison full DVR and full DD 5.1, that combination of :apple:TVs with the Channels app and however many tuners you need in HDHomeRun boxes is a good one. My :apple:TVs have never got so much use before, now basically being a single little box that does everything. While I can stream to mobile devices, Comcast does have a pretty good mobile viewing app themselves which doesn't utilize any of the tuners in the HDHomeRun boxes.

If the above sounds like a big commercial- sorry, I have no affiliation to the Channels app developers or Silicon Dust- just passing along something that is working surprisingly well for me, saving me money without making me feel like I had to give up much to get it. And it seems to have multiple ways to beat this particular problem if this problem starts really showing itself.

CarbleCard as of today is still mandated so traditional cable companies can’t make them non functional. Unfortunately satellite providers are exempt from the cable card mandate.
 
Yes, but the mandate has some softness to it. For example, I have several what are often considered "premium" movie channels in my upgraded package (in particular Starz and Starz-owned channels). I didn't care if I got these particular channels or not but they were bundled in. However via cablecard, they are scrambled. It is connected to a DRM license for what is called DTCP-IP and select channels are sometimes set with a flag called "copy once" which makes them DRM'd to this setup.

So, via cablecard, a scan yields some crazy number of channels (like 500) counting everything it can find, including music channels and so on. However, these particular channels yield a DRM tag in the scan and can't be viewed in the setup I have. If the developers at Channels (app) or if Silicon Dust paid up a big fat fee, they could leverage some descrambling DRM in their software to make them displayable, but it's very expensive for either smallish company, and, as I understand, it also comes with some big liability hook in it too.

So I have this handful of channels- mostly Starz- that are not viewable in the setup I described. They ARE viewable through Comcast's streaming web app, so they are unlocked for my use that way but are locked out via Cablecard. I don't care about those channels so no big loss to me. But, one way big cable could move against this arrangement is to move more channels into this same DRM'd layer. As soon as a few channels I do care about got moved behind that wall, I'd probably just go right back to DISH with the 2 or 3-year price lock-in.

In some other thread around here, somebody referenced that ALL of their channels from their Cable company (not Comcast) were set up like this, so they couldn't view anything but- I think maybe- just their local stations and a few "junk" channels. So Cablecard isn't a perfect solution and seems to be able to be "broken" should big cable decide to go further than just putting the pinch on broadband pricing.

Bigger picture: just try it if you are still attached to cable but really are bugged about the cable box fees. It's easy enough to get one HDHomeRun box for < $100 and Channels is only $25. If it works, it feels transforming vs. the other options that are available... especially if one wants features missing from the many streaming options (like DD5.1, full DVR functionality, seeing shows when they are on rather than a day or more later, etc). If it doesn't work for your system, return the HDhomerun box and you are only out the $25 for the app plus maybe a few dollars for renting a Cablecard for a few days. I regret not making this move much sooner myself.
 
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I switch between Xfinity and Fios as contracts expire. Try to keep broadband of 50 mbs or higher around 30-40 a month.

Both consider you a new customer after 30-90 days and you can get a contract for cheap for a year or two.

Fios has a hard credit check every time which is obnoxious considering they are the con artist. Long story but they owed me 110 dollars for 4 years before they finally realized their error (they had the wrong address, odd considering the bill always made it to the right place) and sent me a check.
 
thos why I don't understand chord cutting. Unless you live in a place where there's plenty of broadband choices or you just don't like tv, the exercise is pointless. I pay $129 for Xfinity tripple play. If I went broadband only, i'd be paying $80 plus the hidden fees.

That may be your example. For one, I utilize the cable company's 100Mb service ONLY (Spectrum, which I am quite happy with their internet service, btw). That is around $65/mo. That includes the taxes. On that single service, I get phone, Video and Security from services that I have picked. Most households need some form of Internet connection. I increased my connection bandwidth, with the money I saved on not getting the "mandatory channel assortment". Additionally, I use a simple antenna to get broadcast television, in higher quality than what most "rebroadcasters" send to tethered people. THOSE are the benefits of cord cutting.
 
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