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The curious case of RCS UP 3.0 (missing)
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26.4 Beta 1 introduces a beta test for E2EE (currently limited to iPhone-to-iPhone RCS chats though, so probably not testable since iMessage has to be turned off).
I wonder which carriers have this enabled and what it looks like in action (if there are any changes to the experience other than an encrypted badge).
I wonder which carriers have this enabled and what it looks like in action (if there are any changes to the experience other than an encrypted badge).
ChemGolf
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It can be checked here:
Does my carrier support RCS on iOS yet?
A list of carriers that support RCS on iOS
cupboardunderscore.github.io
Looks like this is now also cross-platform. Google probably saw Apple started testing and flicked the switch for Google Messages too.
No sight of any UP 2.7 features (reactions, edit messages etc.) though.
No sight of any UP 2.7 features (reactions, edit messages etc.) though.
ChemGolf
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Is it true that Apple removed e2ee in the latest iOS 26.4 beta?
https://www.ad-hoc-news.de/boerse/n...t-rcs-verschluesselung-update-bringt/68664959
https://www.ad-hoc-news.de/boerse/n...t-rcs-verschluesselung-update-bringt/68664959
HouseLannister
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It was in the update notes that it was always a test and not going to be part of 26.4 final. It will probably launch with 27.0 is my guess.
Yes. The other features will improve RCS functionality noticeably.
Even though the features of 3.0 aren't the most amazing in the world, I could definitely see Apple wanting to announce it with 27 for any extra pizazz they can get.
If they really cared, it would have been announced in June last year.
From Rich Text to Video: RCS Universal Profile 4.0 has arrived
Tom Van Pelt, Technical Director, GSMA Delivering a consistent native messaging experience regardless of device or ecosystem is one of the primary objectives of GSMA’s Rich Communication Services (RCS) Universal Profile. We took a big step closer to that goal with the news that end-to-end...
www.gsma.com
"Among the headline features of this new Universal Profile version is the introduction of Messaging‑Initiated Video Calls (MIVC). MIVC allows users to escalate any RCS 1‑to‑1 or group messaging session directly into a video call... When implemented, MIVC paves the way for the first natively supported video call experience that’s interoperable across a wide range of devices and networks."
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HouseLannister
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"Native support for video calls within the messaging app"From Rich Text to Video: RCS Universal Profile 4.0 has arrived
Tom Van Pelt, Technical Director, GSMA Delivering a consistent native messaging experience regardless of device or ecosystem is one of the primary objectives of GSMA’s Rich Communication Services (RCS) Universal Profile. We took a big step closer to that goal with the news that end-to-end...
Oooh. Apple might not want to implement that, but I hope they get forced to. No more need to get my iOS device so I can FaceTime you when we can all just start a video call within the Messages app on anything that uses RCS. That's an awesome future.
Ok so… has anyone actually gotten E2EE to work at all for any RCS chat? I have several with loads of GM Beta users, have yet to see a single E2EE message since installing 26.5 RC 1/2 weeks ago.
Someone suggested toggling RCS (turn off then back on), but that does not work. I assume it‘s Googles side for me (e.g. Android contacts being unlucky) since I can‘t verify iPhone to iPhone (no one voluntarily disables iMessage).
Someone suggested toggling RCS (turn off then back on), but that does not work. I assume it‘s Googles side for me (e.g. Android contacts being unlucky) since I can‘t verify iPhone to iPhone (no one voluntarily disables iMessage).
There are too many factors. It was working with one of my numbers until a couple of weeks ago. I was able to send encrypted messages to a T-Mobile user on both Android and iOS.
ChemGolf
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I'm having the very same experience. Tried all the common troubleshooting. I can't figure out why. Works for others on my carrier too (VZ) so that can't be it.
So… last chance to get UP 3.0 I assume? If 27b1 doesn’t have it, it‘s probably over for us in terms of proper RCS universal profile support. Hope they at least fixed some issues with their awkward RCS stack.
//edit: Look‘s like it‘s over for us. All they did is move e2ee out of carrier bundles into country bundles, enabling it per region (like it is specified in UP) so individual carriers can‘t freely decide on their own. No UP 2.7 stuff, we‘re probably stuck for now.
//edit: Look‘s like it‘s over for us. All they did is move e2ee out of carrier bundles into country bundles, enabling it per region (like it is specified in UP) so individual carriers can‘t freely decide on their own. No UP 2.7 stuff, we‘re probably stuck for now.
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The latest beta has a couple of features we were waiting for. It is now possible to reply to individual messages. Reactions also work.
There are also signs the ability to unsend and edit recent messages will come in future betas.