I went to see TDK this week and Oh. My. God. That was one of the greatest cinematic experiences of my life.
I may go again this weekend.
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The Dark Knight...
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I'm debating on whether or not to go see it again tonight. IMAX is on my way home from meeting up with some friends earlier...
That is great Music_Producer, thanks for sharing! And good to see you around the other Forums, I must admit I miss chatting with ya in our old haunt.
Hey bro, good to see you.. and yes, I miss chatting around there as well - it's just that I've been through a lot of stuff recently.. taking some time off and trying to come back slowly. Seems like music really, really helps me to do so.
I should start trading this week - I'll start off with the NFP
Hey bro, good to see you.. and yes, I miss chatting around there as well - it's just that I've been through a lot of stuff recently.. taking some time off and trying to come back slowly. Seems like music really, really helps me to do so.
I should start trading this week - I'll start off with the NFP
You and me both - I've had a lot on the go with my investment properties, other trading (mostly commodities) and personal stuff to bother with forex... NFP might be interesting this week though...
Anyway, enough off-topic chatting
Back on topic - The Dark Knight was amazing! And seriously, I am looking forward to seeing it again - I won't be surprised if there were some nuances and such which I didn't fully catch the first time around. I like movies that you have to watch a couple times to truly get everything out of it.
That takes me back to an earlier exmaple I gave in this thread of my favorite Nolan work, Memento - a brilliant piece of film and one of my all-time favorite movies. Highly recommended for those who haven't seen it.
And seriously, I am looking forward to seeing it again - I won't be surprised if there were some nuances and such which I didn't fully catch the first time around. I like movies that you have to watch a couple times to truly get everything out of it.
Glad you liked it, ya bastard.
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That takes me back to an earlier exmaple I gave in this thread of my favorite Nolan work, Memento - a brilliant piece of film and one of my all-time favorite movies. ...
Memento is indeed a great film.
I actually decided to suck it up and go again tonight. The 10:50 showing was sold out.
Probably for the best considering 10:50p + 2.5 hours + previews + 30 minute drive home = bad day at work tomorrow. But just thought it was worth mentioning that it is still selling out. IMAX at least, but I wasn't about to downgrade.
After avoiding this thread like the plague, I finally got to see The Dark Knight at the IMAX last night.
Everything that I was hoping for and a lot of things I wasn't! I'm going again at the weekend to a regular cinema as my other half hasn't seen it yet, and I'm looking forward to it again.
I was at the 2100 showing so by the time it finished it was about 2345, and the midnight showing was sold out... so apparently were the showings at 0230 and 0530... it's going to make soooo much money. Able to sink Titanic? I can only hope...
Everything that I was hoping for and a lot of things I wasn't! I'm going again at the weekend to a regular cinema as my other half hasn't seen it yet, and I'm looking forward to it again.
I was at the 2100 showing so by the time it finished it was about 2345, and the midnight showing was sold out... so apparently were the showings at 0230 and 0530... it's going to make soooo much money. Able to sink Titanic? I can only hope...
the odeon was way too hot, everyone was sweating! just made the film even worse, was so bored and just wanted to leave by the end!
I guess I am late to the party but I saw it last weekend and I must say I am very torn.
Up until about ~2 hours in I loved the movie, better than Iron Man but the last 40-60 minutes were just way too long, messy and incoherent, worse than Iron Man. After all I think both are about on par as to the whole movie but Batman could have been so awesome if they had just not drifted off so much in the end. A two hour movie would have been awesome.
A comment though on Heath Ledger's performance... I definitely thought it was Oscar worthy, it was one of the best villain performances I have seen. Definitely lived up to the hype. Too bad the last part of the movie didn't...
Up until about ~2 hours in I loved the movie, better than Iron Man but the last 40-60 minutes were just way too long, messy and incoherent, worse than Iron Man. After all I think both are about on par as to the whole movie but Batman could have been so awesome if they had just not drifted off so much in the end. A two hour movie would have been awesome.
A comment though on Heath Ledger's performance... I definitely thought it was Oscar worthy, it was one of the best villain performances I have seen. Definitely lived up to the hype. Too bad the last part of the movie didn't...
I hear where you're coming from. I was thinking a similar thing too at the time - basically, if the movie was just about the Joker, a 2-hour length (or thereabouts) would have probably been perfect, however with the Harvey Dent/Two-Face story line to resolve, this required the additional half-hour, give or take. So, I understood why the film was longer and didn't mind it. I must admit I was getting "mentally exhausted" near that time, so I hear what you're saying about it being the weaker part of the film, but for me I don't think it was a thing of the movie starting to drag and become weak - rather, just the fact that so much had gone on I was in a bit of overload, coupled with the fact that there really was no better way to tie up the Harvey Dent story line. This added to the tragic nature of it for me - you know this cannot end well, and that's basically what happened. Incoherent, messy - these are words you used to describe the ending and I think that suits the tragedy that is Harvey Dent's reality perfectly - throw in desperate as well.
And yes, I would agree with you that the last act of the film perhaps was not its strongest point in that respect, but as I said, I didn't see any other real way to deal with it and I think the writers still did a pretty good job. The final chapters did not ruin the movie for me or even to a lesser degree leave me with a sour taste, they just accented an already-amazing, epic story.
Further to this, you may consider me a freak for saying so, but I am looking forward to the DVD release in hopes of being able to watch an extended edition of the film!
Or if nothing else, at least a bunch of deleted scenes. I hear where you're coming from. I was thinking a similar thing too at the time - basically, if the movie was just about the Joker, a 2-hour length (or thereabouts) would have probably been perfect, however with the Harvey Dent/Two-Face story line to resolve, this required the additional half-hour, give or take. So, I understood why the film was longer and didn't mind it. I must admit I was getting "mentally exhausted" near that time, so I hear what you're saying about it being the weaker part of the film, but for me I don't think it was a thing of the movie starting to drag and become weak - rather, just the fact that so much had gone on I was in a bit of overload, coupled with the fact that there really was no better way to tie up the Harvey Dent story line. This added to the tragic nature of it for me - you know this cannot end well, and that's basically what happened. Incoherent, messy - these are words you used to describe the ending and I think that suits the tragedy that is Harvey Dent's reality perfectly - throw in desperate as well.
To me, the Two-Face/Harvey Dent story is the culmination of the Joker story, at the very least a major part. The Joker is much more the maniacal, psychotic, criminal genius because of his creation of Two-Face. I keep hearing and reading people speak of the quick transition of Harvey Dent to Two-Face, but it never felt that way to me. The whole movie he teeters between being righteous and going too far. The troubled mind of Bruce Wayne sees him as a hero, but that doesn't make him one... the fictional eulogy for example.
Take Harvey Dent, add the Joker. In one night the Joker burns half his face off and kills the woman he loves and is engaged to. While that is happening they are talking to one another and just before she dies he realizes she is going to because Batman kicks in the door and saves him instead. In his eyes, here is the "Dark Knight," his partner in saving the city, making the wrong choice and essentially killing off Rachel. Then who comes by to visit him in the hospital but the man responsible... and makes sense... and is empowering. His whole world has been turned upside and the only person that makes sense is pushing him in the direction it's already going.
Not to mention: if the movie had been shorter and been sans Two-Face, we wouldn't have gotten to see the Joker dressed in drag as a nurse. That was hilarious.
Just my take...
I dunno...I just wish Zimmer would come up with something original, which he hasn't done since probably Gladiator. Someone mentioned the "theme" for the Joker, which worked VERY well in the theater, but is practically unlistenable on CD. I read that Zimmer did handled the Joker theme while Howard did the Harvey Dent theme. I can just imagine the meeting of the minds on that one:
Howard: "Here's what I came up with for Dent" *plays the very appropriate and intricate theme for Dent that morphs into something more menacing a-la Two-Face* "What did you come up with?"
Zimmer: "Um...I have one note."
Lol, yeah I have noticed that too. I think Zimmer is just too busy with multiple movies.. he's probably spending time running around and passing on projects to his subs, rather than taking the time to work on things himself.
Regarding the soundtrack, I'm just glad that they didn't sell out and include a bunch of pop songs in the movie or something like that. Supposedly they were approached by hundreds of artists. It really cheapens the film and dates it when movies do that. For a movie like The Dark Knight I just don't think it's appropriate either.
Amen! Oh god, can you imagine? We could have ended up with some horrible faux-goth band like Evanescence or something worse.
So, so true. The soundtrack is memorable only because it reflects the movie, rather than it being a pop song mix tape that is "appropriate" because half of them use the words Gotham, Joker or Batman. It helps the flow of the movie rather than being distracting and/or overbearing.
I actually decided to suck it up and go again tonight. The 10:50 showing was sold out.
No way this beats Titanic, or even comes close.
Audiences are really impulsive nowadays and even blockbuster as big as this one see their interest die out relatively quickly.
Look at Spider-Man 3: it held all the opening day/opening weekend records before this film broke them, and it ended up grossing less than the previous two Spider-Man movies!
It may not beat either of them in theatre sales, but it sure is a lot better than either of them.
I sit alone,
In this empty room,
It's a dark vacuum,
Like my bat costume
"Oh bleed! Sweet tears"
I shout and I squeal,
I'm cutting myself
In the Batmobile
But no! *Fuzzy guitars*
The darkness consumes me,
I can feel the pain,
This loss of identity,
Am I Batman? Bruce Wayne?
-Yeah, you're right. That would be terrible.
Exactly. Case in point - I much preferred Elfman's soundtrack for Batman (1989) than Prince's album for the movie. Although Prince is an accomplished, talented musician (it's the truth whether you like him or not!
) the simple fact is that his music for the movie dated it.Lastly, while I've brought it up, I must say that although I love many of Zimmer's themes in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, especially Molossus, nothing is quite as memorable and "catchy" (in a good way) as Elfman's main Batman Theme.