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Come on people. We already know the Macbook Air days are numbered the moment Apple introduced the retina Macbook. People were bashing the Macbook Air because it doesn't have retina, and now people are wanting it to remain? Seriously.

This is an odd transition period. There are 13" current Macbook Air, 13" neutered Macbook Pro, and 13" New Macbook Pro. Talk about overlap. Worse, the 11" Macbook Air is gone, although it's understandable as Apple wants people ti buy the retina Macbook.

We went through this odd transition periods before.
Remember when Apple introduced the unibody aluminum Macbook. Then they paddled back and introduced a palstic Macbook again, discontinuing the aliminum Macbook altogether. Then we have the transition to retina Macbook Pro, while having the old Macbook Pro hanging around with outdated internals.

For those UK people complaining about price, you should look outside and question what your government did instead of blaming Apple.
 
Jon Lewis still selling at pre-event pricing. I bought one last night :D

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Bought my daughter the "old" MacBook Pro on the John Lewis site last night. £50 less than the new base model (without Touchbar) with faster processor, twice the size SSD (512 GB) and SD card reader and USB ports that she wants, as well as Magsafe, and a three-year guarantee thrown in.

I can see my current 13" MacBook Pro (Retina, 3.1 Ghz i7, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD), the machine I make my living on writing medical/scientific documents, being the last MacBook I buy. I appreciate how the MacBook has developed - over the last 30 years I have used most of those models featured in the history of the MacBook shown in the presentation - but the obsession of getting it to be as thin as a piece of paper, at the cost of all the connectivity and that awful keyboard (assuming it it is anything like the 12" MacBook) just lost me.
 
I was just hoping for a Skylake Air with either 1 standard usb plus 1 usbc or two usbc. I wouldn't have thought that it was too unreasonable. It's still not a bad computer shame about the price though.
 
With 2 usb, 1 tb, sd port and magsafe, the mba seems to be to be the best laptop on the market now.

The pro lineup is just ridicolus.
 
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The headphone jack is still there. But the MagSafe and the SD card slot are definitely sad to see go. I wonder why they couldn't at least make a MagSafe-enabled USB-C cable and port...

Yes, you are right - I was actually referring to the iPhone 7. I realized now that it was probably a bit confusing.
 
I am glad I bought the last generation of the MacBook Air 13 and MacBook Pro 15. They are good machines for a lower cost than today's replacements. Not a bargain price for the tech in general, but still good hardware and they run MacOS and my applications fine.
 
I checked the specs. Not sure why Phil did not point this out, but the 1499 MBP without the touch bar has a BIGGER battery than the one with touch bar. It is actually 10% bigger.

Also the processor for the 1499 MBP is rated at 15w. Which means it uses the roughly the same power as the current MBA.

So really the Macbook Air is not dead, it just became that low end MBP. I expect this to get at least 12-14 hours battery life. And with a Retina Screen and 2x trackpad. I think it is the best value laptop of the bunch.

This is the laptop I want. Practically a smaller MBA with Retina and the same battery life.
Doubtful that this new MBP will get 12-14 battery life. If it did, Phil would have mentioned it. The battery may be 10% larger but unless we know what the power drain is on the retina display (vs. non) and other drains on the system like GPU and storage, it won't be a straight calculation based on raw specs.

And THAT is before considering the loss of the magsafe connector, SD card slot, and USB A ports.
 
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So bummed about no update. I would've been happy with a processor update and a GPU bump. No need for Retina, since I know that would've cut into the battery life. Could've thrown a usb-c/thunderbolt 3 port on there so it can drive their new LG monitor, which would've been great. I much prefer the wedge of the Air over the sharp edges of the Pro and the underpowered regular Macbook. Apple obviously had no idea why their best selling laptop was so popular.
 
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This would frustrate me if I worked at Apple.
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Bought my daughter the "old" MacBook Pro on the John Lewis site last night. £50 less than the new base model (without Touchbar) with faster processor, twice the size SSD (512 GB) and SD card reader and USB ports that she wants, as well as Magsafe, and a three-year guarantee thrown in.

I can see my current 13" MacBook Pro (Retina, 3.1 Ghz i7, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD), the machine I make my living on writing medical/scientific documents, being the last MacBook I buy. I appreciate how the MacBook has developed - over the last 30 years I have used most of those models featured in the history of the MacBook shown in the presentation - but the obsession of getting it to be as thin as a piece of paper, at the cost of all the connectivity and that awful keyboard (assuming it it is anything like the 12" MacBook) just lost me.

Agree with you. I have been using Macs since 1993 and cannot believe the latest stuff. With my MBA battery on the blink and power cable breaking I was looking for a new one but this announcement was not what I had hoped for . Luckily I also checked out the JL website and ordered similar MBP except 8/256 for 1149 which is 50 cheaper than Apple prices Before the keynote, and 280 cheaper than the NEW rip off price!

Only thing is it will be heavier than my 2012 MBA but hopefully will be a little bit quicker and keep me going another 3 to 4 years, plus of course the retina screen and all those ports :)
 
I expect it to hang around as long as the old MBP but won't be updated.

Quite sad as the MBA is what brought me into the OSX world. Just upgraded my 3rd (2008, 2010 and 2013) for a MacBook after seeing the crazy new MBP pricing. Was hoping for a wedge design or a rMBA so the MacBook look like it's the closest I'm going to get for now.
 
Doubtful that this new MBP will get 12-14 battery life. If it did, Phil would have mentioned it. The battery may be 10% larger but unless we know what the power drain is on the retina display (vs. non) and other drains on the system like GPU and storage, it won't be a straight calculation based on raw specs.

And THAT is before considering the loss of the magsafe connector, SD card slot, and USB A ports.

It would be sad though for Phil to say that their lowest end Macbook Pro has more battery life than the touchbar one. I guess we will see but the hardware difference is not negligible putting in a bigger battery and a more power efficient processor on the.

If indeed the low end MBP has a better battery life than the touchbar, it will be a failure of marketing either way.
 
I really think the Air will get refreshed because it really just does not fit in their line up

I feel a radical redesign air upcoming and they may bring back the white
 
I like the new pros...but the pricing just adding the touch bar and made base storage 256 is just stupid. I get Apple needs to make money, but was it really needed to do such a huge increase? The 15'' is basically now a "If you don't need portability, get an iMac"
 
I am glad I bought the last generation of the MacBook Air 13 and MacBook Pro 15. They are good machines for a lower cost than today's replacements. Not a bargain price for the tech in general, but still good hardware and they run MacOS and my applications fine.

I got the early 2015 MBA last Sept so I am hoping it'll last me at least another 5 years. Also planning on getting an iMac in the near future, but as far as laptops go. Once this one is dead I'll be going back to PC and getting an ultrabook.
 
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