iPhone 17 The EU is going to force Apple to have user-replaceable batteries in the iPhone.

[transmaster]

This is the issue that kept me from getting an iPhone for a number of years. After a series of iPod Touches, I learned that Apple's choice of batteries outlasted the Touch before I updated. I still have those old iPod Touches and the ones with Li-ion batteries, the oldest a 4G, still charge just fine. On the other hand, I had a series of Sansa players that did have replaceable batteries. It was difficult to get fresh, quality batteries for them. I had to finally order them directly from the outfit in China that made them. With Apple forced to have user-replaceable batteries, people are going to get the cheapest junk they can find. Apple can void any warranty if an Apple-certified battery isn't used, but that isn't going to help the person who winds up in the hospital with 3rd degree fried hide from a battery going up in flames.

Remember the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

The press is reporting this from the angle that Apple is going to lose big bucks on battery replacements. I am looking at it from a safety point of view. I upgrade my iPhone every 2 years. I trade in the old for the new. Not being able to replace iPhone or iPad batteries is not an issue with me.

 

[JPack]

iPhone 16/17 already meets EU user-replaceable battery requirements. Apple met the requirement before the 2027 deadline. It can be removed using commercially available tools. Battery removal is possible without heat or solvents. Fasteners are reusable. A layperson can do it at home.

No exploding batteries have been reported. No uptick in hospitalizations.

 

[transmaster]

iPhone 16/17 already meets EU user-replaceable battery requirements. Apple met the requirement before the 2027 deadline. It can be removed using commercially available tools. Battery removal is possible without heat or solvents. Fasteners are reusable. A layperson can do it at home.

No exploding batteries have been reported. No uptick in hospitalizations.

I have the tools to do this, but as I said, the issue for me is battery quality. Many people will look at the price of the replacement battery. I have many years of experience with Li-ion battery quality. Apple uses Amperex Technology "ATL", Contemporary Amperex Technology, Limited,"CATL, and Samsung SDI. After market, my go-to brand is Panasonic. With that said, you have to be really careful because of counterfeit batteries

 

[macshmack]

With Apple forced to have user-replaceable batteries, people are going to get the cheapest junk they can find. Apple can void any warranty if an Apple-certified battery isn't used, but that isn't going to help the person who winds up in the hospital with 3rd degree fried hide from a battery going up in flames.

The press is reporting this from the angle that Apple is going to lose big bucks on battery replacements. I am looking at it from a safety point of view.

thank you for your concern I guess? just don't go anywhere near 'ceapest junk' plebs to avoid unnecessary combustion.

 

[dblissmn]

How are people finding the battery performance in the 16/17? It's been pretty amazing in the 13 Pro Max for me, so that's quite a high bar to clear......but if they're clearing it that's also interesting.

 

[transmaster]

thank you for your concern I guess? just don't go anywhere near 'ceapest junk' plebs to avoid unnecessary combustion.

As I said above you have to be careful of counterfeit batteries.

 

[transmaster]

How are people finding the battery performance in the 16/17? It's been pretty amazing in the 13 Pro Max for me, so that's quite a high bar to clear......but if they're clearing it that's also interesting.

My iPhone 16 Pro Max is at 90% of its capacity. Set it to do the the 80% charge cycle, and you have many, many years of battery life.

 

[macshmack]

As I said above you have to be careful of counterfeit batteries.

they are already available to anyone who wants them, what's it got to do with this mandate?

 

[macshmack]

The press is reporting this from the angle that Apple is going to lose big bucks on battery replacements.

the press is actually reporting that

it looks as though Apple may not have to worry at all: batteries that can maintain an 80% capacity level after 1,000 cycles aren't covered by the new rulings. Apple meets that standard, as per its official support documents, on models starting from the iPhone 15 that launched in 2023.​

so unless everyone with an older model will suddenly start stuffing their phones with 'cheapest junk', the phone-bomb apocalypse will pass us by.

 

[Cruncher]

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