iPhone 17 The EU is going to force Apple to have user-replaceable batteries in the iPhone.

[transmaster]

This is the issue that kept me from getting an iPhone for a number of years. After a series of iPod Touches, I learned that Apple's choice of batteries outlasted the Touch before I updated. I still have those old iPod Touches and the ones with Li-ion batteries, the oldest a 4G, still charge just fine. On the other hand, I had a series of Sansa players that did have replaceable batteries. It was difficult to get fresh, quality batteries for them. I had to finally order them directly from the outfit in China that made them. With Apple forced to have user-replaceable batteries, people are going to get the cheapest junk they can find. Apple can void any warranty if an Apple-certified battery isn't used, but that isn't going to help the person who winds up in the hospital with 3rd degree fried hide from a battery going up in flames.

Remember the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

The press is reporting this from the angle that Apple is going to lose big bucks on battery replacements. I am looking at it from a safety point of view. I upgrade my iPhone every 2 years. I trade in the old for the new. Not being able to replace iPhone or iPad batteries is not an issue with me.

 

[JPack]

iPhone 16/17 already meets EU user-replaceable battery requirements. Apple met the requirement before the 2027 deadline. It can be removed using commercially available tools. Battery removal is possible without heat or solvents. Fasteners are reusable. A layperson can do it at home.

No exploding batteries have been reported. No uptick in hospitalizations.

 

[transmaster]

iPhone 16/17 already meets EU user-replaceable battery requirements. Apple met the requirement before the 2027 deadline. It can be removed using commercially available tools. Battery removal is possible without heat or solvents. Fasteners are reusable. A layperson can do it at home.

No exploding batteries have been reported. No uptick in hospitalizations.

I have the tools to do this, but as I said, the issue for me is battery quality. Many people will look at the price of the replacement battery. I have many years of experience with Li-ion battery quality. Apple uses Amperex Technology "ATL", Contemporary Amperex Technology, Limited,"CATL, and Samsung SDI. After market, my go-to brand is Panasonic. With that said, you have to be really careful because of counterfeit batteries

 

[macshmack]

With Apple forced to have user-replaceable batteries, people are going to get the cheapest junk they can find. Apple can void any warranty if an Apple-certified battery isn't used, but that isn't going to help the person who winds up in the hospital with 3rd degree fried hide from a battery going up in flames.

The press is reporting this from the angle that Apple is going to lose big bucks on battery replacements. I am looking at it from a safety point of view.

thank you for your concern I guess? just don't go anywhere near 'ceapest junk' plebs to avoid unnecessary combustion.

 

[dblissmn]

How are people finding the battery performance in the 16/17? It's been pretty amazing in the 13 Pro Max for me, so that's quite a high bar to clear......but if they're clearing it that's also interesting.

 

[transmaster]

thank you for your concern I guess? just don't go anywhere near 'ceapest junk' plebs to avoid unnecessary combustion.

As I said above you have to be careful of counterfeit batteries.

 

[transmaster]

How are people finding the battery performance in the 16/17? It's been pretty amazing in the 13 Pro Max for me, so that's quite a high bar to clear......but if they're clearing it that's also interesting.

My iPhone 16 Pro Max is at 90% of its capacity. Set it to do the the 80% charge cycle, and you have many, many years of battery life.

 

[macshmack]

As I said above you have to be careful of counterfeit batteries.

they are already available to anyone who wants them, what's it got to do with this mandate?