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I certainly hope they don’t start charging for access to the Health app like they have with Pages, Keynote, etc— that would really piss everybody off.
 
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Same. I'm 63 and overweight - I cower just looking at the muscled and toned trainers on Fitness+ and automatically jump to 'Nope, not for me!'.
I hear ya, but you might be surprised.

I’m 60 and overweight (still), but the instructors are supportive in their patter, frequently saying to go at a pace that works for you, pointing out modifications, etc. And even with the free weights, they don’t tell you, “grab a pair of 25 pound weights”, they’ll say “grab a pair of medium weights; I’m using 25’s” — to which I chuckle, mutter, “yeah, right!” and grab a pair of 15’s. 😁

For a computer nerd like me who would never set foot in a public gym out of embarrassment and social awkwardness, the Fitness+ approach is working.
 
This service is tailored towards people who have a house, a home gym, and the equipment used in the videos. It's a small market.
 
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Make some exercise equipment and put peloton out of its misery.

Yeah I like peloton ironically but don’t buy them, just steal a few instructors.

Heck the next Apple TV should just be the Peloton move with apps. So add a camera and enable form tracking. FaceTime too.
the only way they can put peloton out of their misery is if they buy them and continue supporting their hardware. otherwise, there is no way anyone will leave peloton for apple.
 
if they came out with a cheaper workout oriented Vision device with a fitness app similar to supernatural quest id have interest.
 
This service is tailored towards people who have a house, a home gym, and the equipment used in the videos. It's a small market.
the equipment? what are you talking about. Fitness+ has meditation, strength, yoga, core, HIIT, dance, and kickboxing classes that require very minimal equipment. thats the vast majority of the classes and all of them can be done in a studio apartment (ask me how I know).
There are cycling, treadmill, and rowing classes, and I would agree with you that most people likely wouldn't use those unless they have the equipment, but your criticism as a general comment is not correct.
 
Same. I'm 63 and overweight - I cower just looking at the muscled and toned trainers on Fitness+ and automatically jump to 'Nope, not for me!'.
I feel like it would be really cool If apple found someone that was a a bit overweight and out of shape and had them do some classes, not as an expert, but more like someone trying to get more fit. It's a huge demographic, and I feel like a lot of folks are turned off by the sculpted super fit look of so many of the trainers.
 
It'll give me an excuse to stop using and buying the watch.
Certainly would…however, if they added value by including an AI training coach to the Health app (the actually works), I might consider a nominal monthly fee for that ($2.99 a month perhaps). But it would really have to add value to my training.
 
This is absolutely what Fitness+ should do. It should suggest workouts that would be most relevant and beneficial to improving the user (based on the Health data), while offering a customized dashboard to track and encourage the progress, with tips like nutrition.
This. When I had a free trial of Fitness+, that was exactly what I had expected to see: Apple has all that health data; why don't they leverage any of it? Instead, you just get a video library with slightly too perky instructors exercising in a Home Shopping Channel environment.
 
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I hope they keep it. Thanks to doing the workouts daily for 4 months, I got out of grieving my mom's death, I lost 10 kg, got abs. My favorites are HIIT, Kickboxing, Strength, Yoga, and always end with a Mindful Cooldown. I'm now one of the fittest squash players at my club (there's two pro players and a 20-something better fitted than me)
 
I love Apple fitness. I use it 5 days a week. It’ll be a tough sell for me to keep the family plan if they drop it.
I am in the same boat, having been using it since it was released. I would rethink Apple One and my Apple Watch as they go hand in hand.

I would like Apple Fitness to become a freemium model and the Apple Fitness Plus to contain more, e.g more than one custom plan, additional sessions, 3rd Party links etc.
 
Interested in Health app, zero interest in Fitness.
I use both, I find the data in health useful and the Fitness+ workouts are a good part of my health and fitness attempts.
Same. I'm 63 and overweight - I cower just looking at the muscled and toned trainers on Fitness+ and automatically jump to 'Nope, not for me!'.
I was initially sceptical when I started looking back when it launched.
But I find the trainers pretty accessible and like the way there is usually one trainer on screen doing modified routines with less impact etc.
The reason I have stuck with Fitness+ is that I have never felt I am not the target audience or felt excluded.

I am 57 and slightly overweight and use Fitness+ 3-4 days a week and run on 3 days a week. But I am a fair weather runner so if it rains do a HIIT workout instead, and if away with work or on holiday use Fitness+ workouts.
I also use it to record my walks etc.
If the Health and Fitness+ data could be slightly more linked together that would be great. A more unified view of the data wlould be interesting.
 
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Apple might add some kind of extra features to the existing Fitness+. Don't think there will be a new subscription service and also I am not looking forward to another subscription.
 
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If Apple get rid of Fitness+, they are in BIG trouble with me.

Not that I can do anything about it. They can do what they want. I'd just never think the same about them again.
 
Same. I'm 63 and overweight - I cower just looking at the muscled and toned trainers on Fitness+ and automatically jump to 'Nope, not for me!'.
Yea, I saw that as well. Coincidentally, I'm 63 and one of the things I appreciate most about the workouts in Fitness+ is the fact that there are (at least in the videos I've worked out to) two other presenters (silent) in the background doing different intensity levels of whatever the lead trainer is doing. That's why they seem to stress "at your own level" in many of the promos.
 
Buy Peloton. Keep Peloton platform-agnostic for Android users, but roll all of Peloton's features (workout tracking, etc) into Apple Health and sync everything automatically. Show me my rings on my Peloton screen.
 
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Same. I'm 63 and overweight - I cower just looking at the muscled and toned trainers on Fitness+ and automatically jump to 'Nope, not for me!'.
I was 48, medically obese and way out of shape... I looked at my Peloton instructors and thought the exact same thing as you.

By 50, I was down 45 lbs and running my first Chicago RSNA 5K at 6am in mid-December dark freezing cold along the frozen shores of Lake Michigan.

Now at 56, I'm down 70 lbs, I weigh less than I did in high school, I have a normal BMI, I've reversed all of my abnormal blood lab values, and can keep up with someone half my age. Even my shoe size went from double wide to normal. It can be done.
 
This is absolutely what Fitness+ should do. It should suggest workouts that would be most relevant and beneficial to improving the user (based on the Health data), while offering a customized dashboard to track and encourage the progress, with tips like nutrition.
I'm amazed that it doesn't do this...so its basically just a video feed then?

I don't use it because I don't have an Apple Watch, which is a precursor to most Apple Health metrics I previously used. Thats put me off of trying other services because I'm happy with my Garmin devices.
 
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