Nope, power line networking is not illegal. In New Jersey, there is a government funded test city for power-line networking and they are working to expand it to other cities. Recently, the FCC head was going on and on about how great it works in some journal. Also, it isn't very expensive to implement from the consumer side. The biggest problem with the tech today is "filtering"--- which is very similar to the issue that DSL providers face with the distance from digital switches.
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The Golden Age of the Internet is ending
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Screw that. When I buy internet access, I am paying a provider to deliver my packets from point A to point B regardless of content. If ISPs start filtering certain types of traffic, they lose their common carrier status and are then responsible for all of the traffic that is passed through their network. ISPs will never do that, or if they do, they ought to be shot.
Powerline networking has nothing whatsoever to do with Airport. They are two totally different things. And since when was Apple ever in the broadband internet business?
I know how you feel, and I do agree with you. My comment was only meant if things got out of hand. Like stated in the first post.
If they were to impliment pay-per-bit internet, would it be an option for all internet providers, or would they be required by law to do it? Could one company, say Earthlink, choose to still give unlimited access?
Anyway, if this does end up happening with all providers, they're gonna get a lot of money from me, and it is rather depressing to support such a thing.
Anyway, if this does end up happening with all providers, they're gonna get a lot of money from me, and it is rather depressing to support such a thing.
Wow,
You guys in Austrailia seem to have some seriously crap deals going in on. What's the deal with this maximum download cr*p? And the 70 bucks you pay for it?
Over here in Japan, I have a 100mb/s optic fibre connection (getting very common here now), and I pay around 45 - 50 US dollars a month for it.
Depending on companies, ADSL (12mb/s) costs between 20 - 25 US dollars a month. Is this cheaper than in the US? Would be interesting to know.
I don't know of any ISPs over here that have any download restrictions either.
You guys in Austrailia seem to have some seriously crap deals going in on. What's the deal with this maximum download cr*p? And the 70 bucks you pay for it?
Over here in Japan, I have a 100mb/s optic fibre connection (getting very common here now), and I pay around 45 - 50 US dollars a month for it.
Depending on companies, ADSL (12mb/s) costs between 20 - 25 US dollars a month. Is this cheaper than in the US? Would be interesting to know.
I don't know of any ISPs over here that have any download restrictions either.
Re: Wow,
Sorry for the branch there. Here, for a home license (not commercial, aren't "supposed to" run a web server, or any kind of server for that matter. But they don't enforce it - I ran a low-traffic web server for 2 years and they did nothing.) for a 512Kbps connection, costs about 30-35 bucks a month. Commercial costs 45-50. But, I should probably check the latest rates. Unfortunately h**p://www.rr.com is terribly, terribly designed.
That is a buttload cheaper than the U.S., at least in New York. Then again the premise of NY is to take all your money and put it in the general fund (and not to those who need it)
Sorry for the branch there. Here, for a home license (not commercial, aren't "supposed to" run a web server, or any kind of server for that matter. But they don't enforce it - I ran a low-traffic web server for 2 years and they did nothing.) for a 512Kbps connection, costs about 30-35 bucks a month. Commercial costs 45-50. But, I should probably check the latest rates. Unfortunately h**p://www.rr.com is terribly, terribly designed.
It's not just Australia that's got it bad. Here in NZ I'm paying US$35 a month for a 128k connection with a transfer limit of 10 gigs per month (with a "good" ISP). Next step up is 4 Mb/s at 12c per meg. If I download a 100 meg file, there goes $12.
Most DSL in NZ goes through one company (who is partly owned by MS and tries to push everyone onto MSN), and they've set those ridiculously high prices. There are a couple of other providers, but they're only available in the big cities. However their prices are significantly better.
I've been using DSL for about 2 years and the pricing hasn't changed at all over that time. Surely it should have by now?
Most DSL in NZ goes through one company (who is partly owned by MS and tries to push everyone onto MSN), and they've set those ridiculously high prices. There are a couple of other providers, but they're only available in the big cities. However their prices are significantly better.
I've been using DSL for about 2 years and the pricing hasn't changed at all over that time. Surely it should have by now?
we dont got it bad - bad would be good compared to what we get.
we also get flawless broadband and with a population that it something like 1/10th the US' and significantly smaller than Japan's we have to be charged more. If all markets had 10% on broadband then AUS would be only 2million people. US would be 20million people and Japan about 20million people.
It is numbers lads - less users = higher prices: look at Apple computers ......
we also get flawless broadband and with a population that it something like 1/10th the US' and significantly smaller than Japan's we have to be charged more. If all markets had 10% on broadband then AUS would be only 2million people. US would be 20million people and Japan about 20million people.
It is numbers lads - less users = higher prices: look at Apple computers ......
That's a fabulous idea. I actually liked authors lifetime - I certainly don't think a company should keep the monopoly on a work after that person has died. Perhaps allow a grace period of a year after deth (to prevent anything tacky showing up, and allow the company to plan forthe loss of income) but certainly not another 95.
The thing is, as we all know now, society has got too caught up protecting those 'rights' that suit business and forgotton that, in the long run, we all have a lot more to gain be developing and improving.
And perhaps copyright needs to take into account different media. Books after all, are a writers living - they can take years to produce (well, admittedly all the books I've ever written took 4 months, but that's not the point). Other stuff, however, could be made freely available in, say, 20 years. Software, technical designs, etc. have long since outlived their usefulness in that period. Perhaps we'll have to wait until the US implodes and the EU (or China!) becomes the dominant superpower. You seem to get less and less time at the top these days (Romans had over 1000 years, Britain didn't manage that etc.)
Geopolitics, eh? Aren't i all intelectual on a Friday afternoon?
no one will ever be able to stop the trade of illegal music or movies, software or anything else for that matter. people would just go underground and lots of people would be pissed off.
i think there is only one ISP that offers truly unlimited plans, that's OzForces. i'm getting 512k ADSL from them and it's completely unlimited, but it's about $80-90 a month. but after having it i don't know how i'd survive with a download limit.
i think there is only one ISP that offers truly unlimited plans, that's OzForces. i'm getting 512k ADSL from them and it's completely unlimited, but it's about $80-90 a month. but after having it i don't know how i'd survive with a download limit.
OzForces is a Comindico Reseller... there are literally heaps of them now. Inspired, Dot, iHug, Dodo.. all between $80 and $100 a month and all reselling the same "unlimited" service where you can really only get dialup type speeds on a 512kbps ADSL link.
Myself, I've just applied for iiNet. 16GB/mth and speed limited to 72kbps after that at $80/mth for 512kbps.
The unlimited providers don't cut it for me.
Derek
