I do not plan to go Alder Lake as I'd have to buy just about everything. I think that going QEMU/KVM might be an easier approach if you just want to kick the tires. That is VMWare Player -> Ubuntu -> QEMU/KVM macOS using Docker.
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I do not plan to go Alder Lake as I'd have to buy just about everything. I think that going QEMU/KVM might be an easier approach if you just want to kick the tires. That is VMWare Player -> Ubuntu -> QEMU/KVM macOS using Docker.
Hi, years ago I read that whenever Apple released a new OS update, users of Hackintosh could not just update their OS the way Mac users did. They had to spend a lot of time to repeat the Hackintosh procedure to set up a new OS again. Is it still the same now?
My experience with trying to upgrade is to not do it. I always did a clean install. There are enough problems getting it to work and I don't like to spend additional time debugging stuff that may just not work. I don't feel the need to do those anymore with an M1 mini and a M1 PRO MacBook Pro.
I heard that these days people use the OpenCore approach rather than Clover or other older methods. Does OpenCore make installation easier and take less time?
In the dortania's OpenCore Install Guide, it mentions several ways to get MacOS including from Windows. Is it better to get the Mac OS installer directly from a Mac? I worry that if I get the installer from other sources such as via Windows/Linux and github, those installer may not be an authentic Mac OS installer but a modified one which could steal information from my computer after installation.
In the dortania's OpenCore Install Guide, it mentions several ways to get MacOS including from Windows. Is it better to get the Mac OS installer directly from a Mac? I worry that if I get the installer from other sources such as via Windows/Linux and github, those installer may not be an authentic Mac OS installer but a modified one which could steal information from my computer after installation.
I have lately been running macOS on my Windows system using Ubuntu/KVM/QEMU and Docker. It's good enough for what I was doing with it. I ran the Monterey Betas just to get a feel. If someone were redistributing hacked macOS Installs, I think that it would be a DMCA violation and we know that Apple is aggressive about those things.
I have not tried to make a Hackintosh before. Will using OpenCore or Clover compromise the security of Mac OS as we need to edit some files? Given that a PC has no T1 or T2 chip, will a Hackintosh be less secured than a real Mac?
After today’s T2 debacle, security is second to having MacBook just simplly turn on.
i never hacintoshed anything either, and read how limited my Dell xps is afer a Mojave install,
i would never read anything about that.
Funny story... I got rid of this build cheap because I was bored with it. I ended up wanting another Hackintosh but didn't need the GPU as I no longer game on windows because everything I play is on GeForce Now. So I put together a basic build and I am waiting for more parts to add my final touches. I'll post my Pics. I kept OC 071 but downgraded to Mojave... 'I just like it better. I'll return to Big Sur when I am ready, or I'll go right to Monterey.
Looking back at the pics, that was a nice build, albeit older hardware. This one is cool too, but I just don't have the need for the big cooler or GPU anymore.
There are obvious benefits to having the T2 chip, but not so much with the T1.
YES. Learning curve on how to setup the bootloader can be a bit tricky. However, if you watch just a couple of tutorial videos with a system on the same platform as your PC (Skyle, Coffee Lake, Rocket Lake, etc) then it's fairly easy. I use a program called OC Gen X to create the bootloader which generates all the necessary files for me and then I just need to tweak the config.plist file and that's basically it. Just move the bootloader to your EFI folder and you computer will behave like a normal mac.
I've ran OS upgrades and security updates with ZERO issues.
Clover I never liked, convoluted garbage. Unibeast/Multibeast was truly easy but it wasn't perfect and running updates screwed up a LOT of things.
Opencore is amazing, basically everything in my PC works 100%; sleep and wake, audio, all USB ports, etc.
With OpenCore, if you ever need to reinstall Mac OS, all you need to do is copy the bootloader into your EFI partition. There's ZERO setup afterwards.
It really doesn't matter. It is easier to make a bootable Mac OS install disk via Mac OS though, I'd just do it that way if possible.
There are obvious benefits to having the T2 chip, but not so much with the T1.
Is it a bad idea to do online banking on a Hackintosh? I suppose without a T1 or T2 chip, some security functions of Mac OS may be compromised?
People did online banking for a long time before T1 and T2 chips....
I dont have one in my Hackintosh and I do online banking all the time. AFAIK, it wont help with security against the web but it will if someone physically takes your computer.
I believe the T2 chip encrypts everything going to the drive so if you want to access the drive, it needs to go through that chip.
After years of using Clover, I recently used Opencore approach because of the CPU (Intel 10th gen required OC). The main job is creating UEFI folder and the plist, which sometimes can be tricky. Intel i9-10850, 32GB of RAM, RX580, ASUS Z490 mainboard, wifi and bluetooth, 1TB Samsung NVME disk. All works.
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I think that it's more up-front work finding out all of the information with OpenCore. I never finished an OC Hackintosh but did do many Clover installs. I'm basically sold on QEMU/KVM these days. There's just a higher convenience factor. You may lose audio and you also need a second GPU if you want GPU acceleration but those are issues I could live with.
I use only USB sound cards and USB bluetooth and wifi, so save myself time to debug those problems. Basically all works just like native Mac. Opencore boot is very nice, same as native, but I didn't have many problems with Clover as well. Latest Clover seem to support even Monterey but I didn't try, I am using Catalina.
I have not run a Hackintosh system since I got my 2021 MacBook Pro 16. Apple Silicon has put an end to Hackintosh for me.
Yes, I understand
I also ordered MBA M1 for mobile needs (moving from Macbook Pro Intel 2019 13 inch). However, in desktop I do have M1 MacMini too. Anyway, you are right that Hackintosh is diminishing now though it does have some merits (like hardware choice and more budget savings though it is arguable as well). The M silicon is really a beast, MacPros Mx will be probably industry leading.
It's absolutely NOT diminishing.Yes, I understand
My Big Sur build on Alder Lake:
Asus Z690 Prime P D4
Intel i9-12900K
16GB DDR4 Corsair RAM
8P + 8E cores enabled
GB5 under macOS
GB5 under Windows 10
GB4 under Windows 10
CPU-Z i9-12900K vs AMD 5950X
It's absolutely NOT diminishing.
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My Big Sur build on Alder Lake:
Asus Z690 Prime P D4
Intel i9-12900K
16GB DDR4 Corsair RAM
8P + 8E cores enabled
View attachment 1909742
GB5 under macOS
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GB5 under Windows 10
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GB4 under Windows 10
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CPU-Z i9-12900K vs AMD 5950X
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I think that the meaning is that there will be diminishing interest from those that were unhappy with Intel Macs and find that Apple Silicon is the better way to go. I expect x86 macOS support to be dropped around 2027 with software application support dropping sometime before then as developers pull scarce development funds to concentrate on the most important ports.
Have you been able to test how the E-Cores (disabled, enabled, with and without hyperthreading) affect Adobe apps, specifically Photoshop?It's absolutely NOT diminishing.
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My Big Sur build on Alder Lake:
Asus Z690 Prime P D4
Intel i9-12900K
16GB DDR4 Corsair RAM
8P + 8E cores enabled
View attachment 1909742
GB5 under macOS
View attachment 1909743
GB5 under Windows 10
View attachment 1909744
GB4 under Windows 10
View attachment 1909746
CPU-Z i9-12900K vs AMD 5950X
View attachment 1909745
It's absolutely NOT diminishing.
View attachment 1909741
My Big Sur build on Alder Lake:
Asus Z690 Prime P D4
Intel i9-12900K
16GB DDR4 Corsair RAM
8P + 8E cores enabled
View attachment 1909742
GB5 under macOS
View attachment 1909743
GB5 under Windows 10
View attachment 1909744
GB4 under Windows 10
View attachment 1909746
CPU-Z i9-12900K vs AMD 5950X
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Damn! That is some HOTness