iPhone The ios 9 thru 9.0.2 Jailbreak Truth

[Curly Howard]

In an ever changing world one thing stays the same. Death and taxes, and ios firmware updates. I'm here today to talk about the latter, ios firmware. Every Time Apple comes out with a new firmware it's followed by a new jailbreak utility. When apple introduced ios 9 thru ios 9.0.2 it came with a bunch of problems with the way the firmwares would not respond to letting you display only one group in your contacts to simple login problems. And one person even showed me how her iPhone on ios 9.0.2 kept asking her to sign into her Gmail account every time she turned on the the iPhone. Tim Cook and Apple are so busy trying to stop jailbreaking that the consumer YOU and I get caught up in the corporate crap! When I contacted apple about these issues most of which are on this blog site they said they hadn't heard of these issues. REALLY!!!! When you do a Google search you can get endless pages on all kinds of problems with the ios 9 firmware. SO DON'T TELL ME YOU DON'T KNOW! Then Pangu jumps the shark and introduces a jailbreak for ios 9 thru 9.0.2and here is where the story gets real interesting. With these said firmwares being and having more bugs than a field of Nebraska corn. It was inevitable that the tweaks that you downloaded and even those that were updated by the developers would and are causing your iPhone to crash, reboot, constantly go into safe mode, and cause your phone to go into boot loop which can only be corrected by restoring the firmware on your device and starting over again. If you watch Youtube videos like the one by this idiot called iCrackUriDevice you will see his idea on boot loop fix which is crap cause the research group I test with foud that this works about 10% of the time. Now Apple has introduced ios 9.1 which patches the earlier Pangu jailbreak. So beware my friends. I personally have not updated to 9.1 because until Apple corrects these bugs then You and I will be wasting our time. Hey you can follow me on Facebook and Twitter (curlyhowardfox8) Hey and a special shout out to EverythingApplePro and to iReviews who put out great videos on Youtube!!

Curly Howard

 

[I7guy]

Not sure of the point of all of this.

 

[Alonso Quijano]

paragraphs woud be useful

 

[Radon87000]

Too long didn't read

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

I read it. I somewhat agree with the bugs section of the rant. X.0 releases are always going to have their fair share but there are some things that should have been ironed out before 9.1 was released.

As far as the jailbreak stuff goes, FUD. Yeah, the BLoD is a real issue but it's not a problem you just have to deal with if you want to jailbreak. I've not seen a single one. And yes, there are a lot of tweaks that haven't been update that will send your phone into safe mode or crash Cydia. Good thing there's a simple way to enter safe mode to remove the offending tweak.

Not sure why you put this in the iOS 9 section where I'm sure there's a lot of people that have never jailbroken. This just instills unnecessary apprehension.

 

[Curly Howard]

Too long didn't read

Maybe you should stay with twitter!

Not sure of the point of all of this.

Well if you don't have a mind then it won't matter!

 

[I7guy]

Well if you don't have a mind then it won't matter!

Still not sure of the point of all of that.

 

[eyoungren]

I must have either done things right, or just been very, very lucky.

None of the issues the OP described with iOS 9 have happened to me (Groups or Gmail, and I have more than one group and a gmail account). Stock or otherwise.

Jailbreaking was easy. As far as jumping the shark, hey, well fat lot of good it does everyone to release a JB AFTER Apple has patched it and everyone's migrated to 9.1. Then everyone would be bitching about "Why didn't Pangu release before 9.1?! Now, I'm screwed!"

And as far as misbehaving tweaks - I still do not get why everyone thinks they have to restore! Has no one heard about Mobile Substrate Safe Mode?!!! It's like there's been a mind wipe out there and this very effective method for saving your jailbreak is virtually unknown.

People need to stop with the knee-jerk reactionary attitudes, calm down and think!

 

[Curly Howard]

I must have either done things right, or just been very, very lucky.

None of the issues the OP described with iOS 9 have happened to me (Groups or Gmail, and I have more than one group and a gmail account). Stock or otherwise.

Jailbreaking was easy. As far as jumping the shark, hey, well fat lot of good it does everyone to release a JB AFTER Apple has patched it and everyone's migrated to 9.1. Then everyone would be bitching about "Why didn't Pangu release before 9.1?! Now, I'm screwed!"

And as far as misbehaving tweaks - I still do not get why everyone thinks they have to restore! Has no one heard about Mobile Substrate Safe Mode?!!! It's like there's been a mind wipe out there and this very effective method for saving your jailbreak is virtually unknown.

People need to stop with the knee-jerk reactionary attitudes, calm down and think!

I and the members in my group (16) will try in vain to uncheck the groups in contacts. Then close out of contacts re-open contacts only to find it rechecked again. Apple has numerous case# on this one issue alone. Then there are other issues happening on other iPhones and not on mine. Like the young Lady who I no matter what I or others in the group tried couldn't fix her Email issues on her non jailbroken iPhone. Maybe you just don't know of any problem because you haven't noticed them.

 

[Curly Howard]

paragraphs woud be useful

You are so right I must confess!

 

[eyoungren]

Well you must be as you said very lucky because everyone and I mean EVERYONE has had an issue with 9 thru 9.0.2 THAT IS EXCEPT YOU MR. PERFECT!! I and the members in my group (16) will try in vain to uncheck the groups in contacts. Then close out of contacts re-open contacts only to find it rechecked again. Apple has numerous case# on this one issue alone. Then there are other issues happening on other iPhones and not on mine. Like the young Lady who I no matter what I or others in the group tried couldn't fix her Email issues on her non jailbroken iPhone. Maybe you just don't know of any problem because you haven't noticed them. MIGHTY STRANGE THAT THE APPLE ENGINEERS DO!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T COMMIT ON THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MR. PERFECT!!!!!!!!

All I said was I was not having those issues. And no, I don't know better than Apple's engineers or your focus group or anything else that's related to any of this - because it's not happening to me. At all.

Doesn't make me perfect. Just fortunate. Or perhaps an anal process follower.

I was on 9.0 on my two iPhones for all of 20 minutes while I updated them (via Upgrade and Restore) as new to 9.0.1 and then later on in the same day to 9.0.2 (again as new). My backups were from 8.1.1 and 8.1.2 and while they had jailbreak data in them there was nothing in there from 9.0 or 9.0.1.

So maybe my experience is different and that makes me fortunate. But definetely not perfect.

P.S. Just flipped a bunch of switches in my Contact Groups. No issues whatsoever.

Now I don't deny this is happening to anyone else, but I don't believe it's as widespread an issue as you seem to make it out to be.

 

[Curly Howard]

I read it. I somewhat agree with the bugs section of the rant. X.0 releases are always going to have their fair share but there are some things that should have been ironed out before 9.1 was released.

As far as the jailbreak stuff goes, FUD. Yeah, the BLoD is a real issue but it's not a problem you just have to deal with if you want to jailbreak. I've not seen a single one. And yes, there are a lot of tweaks that haven't been update that will send your phone into safe mode or crash Cydia. Good thing there's a simple way to enter safe mode to remove the offending tweak.

Not sure why you put this in the iOS 9 section where I'm sure there's a lot of people that have never jailbroken. This just instills unnecessary apprehension.

Well that's because I chose the wrong section. But here is the deal. You said that it's a good thing that there is safe mode which will send your iPhone into safe mode. But! On a lot of iPhones if you install activator it will send your iPhone into a in resolved boot loop. That means you will have to restore the firmware. So I don't know if you have experienced that but I tell you this because it will happened.

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

Well that's because I chose the wrong section. But here is the deal. You said that it's a good thing that there is safe mode which will send your iPhone into safe mode. But! On a lot of iPhones if you install activator it will send your iPhone into a in resolved boot loop. That means you will have to restore the firmware. So I don't know if you have experienced that but I tell you this because it will happened.

Right. I've read about it. That by no means happens to everybody though. It's unfortunate that it happens for sure but a restore really isn't that big of a deal. Sure, it consumes time but you're starting from scratch and chances are you're not going to experience the same thing so long as it's not a hardware issue with your device.

 

[eyoungren]

I had an issue with Activator when I first installed it. Tried to shut down and it resprang instead.

Turns out my issue was the f.lux flipswitch. After uninstalling that I've had zero issues.

Don't know if that's the same issue here or not, but Safe Mode to uninstall Activator (until I found out it was the flipswitch issue) was still available to me. If this problem is big enough that it's killing the use of Safe Mode then this is the first I've heard about it.

 

[Curly Howard]

All I said was I was not having those issues. And no, I don't know better than Apple's engineers or your focus group or anything else that's related to any of this - because it's not happening to me. At all.

Doesn't make me perfect. Just fortunate. Or perhaps an anal process follower.

I was on 9.0 on my two iPhones for all of 20 minutes while I updated them (via Upgrade and Restore) as new to 9.0.1 and then later on in the same day to 9.0.2 (again as new). My backups were from 8.1.1 and 8.1.2 and while they had jailbreak data in them there was nothing in there from 9.0 or 9.0.1.

So maybe my experience is different and that makes me fortunate. But definetely not perfect.

I can understand that. If you ever update to iOS 9.1 let me know if you or anyone else experiences any problems with the firmware. I myself just put a few tweaks on my iPhone. I was telling another member in the group here on MacForms that some of my friends have encounterd a stuck boot loop because of the activator tweak! Sorry I jumped you and I'm GLAD to know you!

 

[braddick]

Why I can't install simple tweaks like Chroma or TransparentDock without Cydia refusing to open afterward is beyond me.
Yes, it's a difficult jailbreak, fraught with weaknesses- yet when overcome is still worth it over stock.
(Coming from beta 5 9.1 iOS on a 6S)

 

[Curly Howard]

I can understand that. If you ever update to iOS 9.1 let me know if you or anyone else experiences any problems with the firmware. I myself just put a few tweaks on my iPhone. I was telling another member in the group here on MacForms that some of my friends have encounterd a stuck boot loop because of the activator tweak! Sorry I jumped you and I'm GLAD to know you!

I can understand that. If you ever update to iOS 9.1 let me know if you or anyone else experiences any problems with the firmware. I myself just put a few tweaks on my iPhone. I was telling another member in the group here on MacForms that some of my friends have encounterd a stuck boot loop because of the activator tweak! Sorry I jumped you and I'm GLAD to know you!

As a matter of fact the tweak CCControls is really going crazy! And in the repository http://cydia.angelxwind.net/ there is a tweak called mikoto that for me when I installed it, it removed the update icon badge on the settings app. But the strange thing is, once you removed the tweak itself. We found that the software update badge never returned! Check it out! And that's a good thing.

 

[iphonedude2008]

Well that's because I chose the wrong section. But here is the deal. You said that it's a good thing that there is safe mode which will send your iPhone into safe mode. But! On a lot of iPhones if you install activator it will send your iPhone into a in resolved boot loop. That means you will have to restore the firmware. So I don't know if you have experienced that but I tell you this because it will happened.

Actually you don't have to reinstall firmware. What you could have done is just held down power and home until you see the apple logo. At that point, press and hold volume up until you see the lock screen. This will boot will mobile substrate disabled, meaning activator can not longer crash the device.

 

[Curly Howard]

Why I can't install simple tweaks like Chroma or TransparentDock without Cydia refusing to open afterward is beyond me.
Yes, it's a difficult jailbreak, fraught with weaknesses- yet when overcome is still worth it over stock.
(Coming from beta 5 9.1 iOS on a 6S)

Oh! You will never get an argument from anyone on that subject Brother. I got this tweak called Speak Notification. And at first I thought it was the tweak it self. Because every time it said the time or spoke the email or messages out loud it would send my iPhone into safe mode. But through testing done by the group I'm in. We found out that it was clashing with several other tweaks. So for me those few tweaks had to go.

 

[Curly Howard]

Actually you don't have to reinstall firmware. What you could have done is just held down power and home until you see the apple logo. At that point, press and hold volume up until you see the lock screen. This will boot will mobile substrate disabled, meaning activator can not longer crash the device.

I have found that for me and others that this does not work. And I have an iPhone 5s I have seen others try this and it will work. As I mentioned to another person. If you install activator and this tweak (activator) causes an unresolved boot loop, this method your talking about will not work!

 

[iphonedude2008]

I have found that for me and others that this does not work. And I have an iPhone 5s I have seen others try this and it will work. As I mentioned go another person. If you install activator and this tweak (activator) causes an unresolved boot loop, this method your talking about will not work!

I don't know whats with you and your group, but most people have no issues at all with activator. I looked it up, and not a lot of people have the same issues you do. In addition, the people who did said that going into safe mode and removing it fixed the issue. Its extremely unlikely that my solution did not work unless it wasn't activator causing the issue in the first place.

Using the volume up button, you disable mobile substrate, which means that all code running on your device is stock, directly from apple. Thats why mobile substrate is required in tweaks because it handles changing the linker to point to downloaded code.

I also don't understand what "does not work" about it. Can you not open cydia in safe mode? Is the tweak still listed

Don't flame others in the thread for making comments about your post. It is very poorly organized and comes off as the ramblings of someone who doesn't know what they're doing. I've been jailbreaking on every single version since 3.1.3. I used every tool anyone has made. My issues were always fixable and if I messed up my phone to the point where I had to restore it, it was due to an error I made, whether not reading or installing incompatible tweaks. Don't come into this with the assumption that with your little group, you can discover things that none of the extremely talented developers in the jailbreak community don't already know. If you have errors persisting after removing mobile substrate and all dependancies, then post again. Otherwise you don't know that activator causes the issue.

 

[Carlanga]

Lmao blaming Apple as the cause of a tweak not being updated to work w iOS 9 and causing your phone to crash. Or that Apple updates to break a jb just because they don't want you to be jb lmao b

Gmail issues are w Google not Apple.

IMO this has been the most stable iOS release yet.

With your name and avatar I'm assuming you made this thread as a joke, but your rant has no base.

 

[kalirob99]

The title sounds paranoid and the shout out at the end almost gave this a bipolar feeling.

 

[iphonedude2008]

The title sounds paranoid and the shout out at the end almost gave this a bipolar feeling.

Yeah I just read that last part. This thread needs wasteland.

 

[bandofbrothers]

Maybe it's just me but when a jailbreak tool is freshly launched I watch and wait before installing familiar and new tweaks.

Right now the only tweak I have is 'Reveal Menu' downloaded.

I truly appreciate the early adopters trying out tweaks and the Dev's themselves many whom do this for little or no return apart from the love of developing tweaks for us

I've had one issue with the recent jailbreak to where after running it Cydia wouldn't launch at all. Knee jerk reaction was to use tbe two button hard reset method which put me in a loop with the  logo constantly on.

My bad.

I automatically used Recovery Mode and Restored instead of using the volume button method ! Duh

I've seen little issue since updating to iOS 9 on the iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air, but as we've all come to read people have different conceptions on what they see / accept.