The iPad Pro is what the iPad should have been...

[linkgx1]

Hi.

There seems to be a lot of disappointment in the iPad Pro for some here.

On the contrary, I think it looks incredibly awesome. For me, the reason I have yet to buy an iPad (but I have bought one for people in my life) is because of the lack of multitasking.

''But the iPad can multitask''.

For me, it is the side by side apps that were utterly most important for me. The iPad was something I felt I could do ''real work'' on. Not necessarily game development, but as a college student I write papers and constantly need to access at least two things at once. I also need to constantly access other files, which we can easily do now thanks to the iCloud drive app.

I really feel like Apple hit it out of the park. I was never a fan of the Surface completely because I felt there was too much ''PC compromise''. Meaning? I can run ''full apps'' but they weren't designed for touch screen...and the hardware wasn't powerful enough to run full games.

The iPad never needs to be an OSX clone, but it does need to take important features from full PCs/Macs which I feel that they have done.

I think this will be my first iPad.

 

[ACG12]

I disagree, the iPad Pro needed to be a direct competitor to the MS Surface Pro and it failed to do that. A phone OS isn't good enough for a screen that is 12.9".

 

[diamornte]

Hi.

There seems to be a lot of disappointment in the iPad Pro for some here.

On the contrary, I think it looks incredibly awesome. For me, the reason I have yet to buy an iPad (but I have bought one for people in my life) is because of the lack of multitasking.

''But the iPad can multitask''.

For me, it is the side by side apps that were utterly most important for me. The iPad was something I felt I could do ''real work'' on. Not necessarily game development, but as a college student I write papers and constantly need to access at least two things at once. I also need to constantly access other files, which we can easily do now thanks to the iCloud drive app.

I really feel like Apple hit it out of the park. I was never a fan of the Surface completely because I felt there was too much ''PC compromise''. Meaning? I can run ''full apps'' but they weren't designed for touch screen...and the hardware wasn't powerful enough to run full games.

The iPad never needs to be an OSX clone, but it does need to take important features from full PCs/Macs which I feel that they have done.

I think this will be my first iPad.

But it's missing 3D Touch (and likely won't get it til the next hardware refresh/not via software update since 3D Touch requires new hardware), therefore it's kind of like a premature (or immature?) product - a testament to it's newness, sure, but for the cost you must pay to use the new tech/Apple Pencil now (as opposed to waiting to buy until later when it has 3D Touch in gen 2/3) you'd think it would have all the bells and whistles and not be missing something that even Apple said in their promo video for iPhone 6S yesterday changes the way you use the device forever.

 

[0928001]

It's just a giant iPad. Majority of everyone else expected more. It is cool you can buy a $100 pencil to draw on it, other than that, it's the same iPad as the rest.

What important features have they taken from the Mac line, except for decent speakers?

 

[Michael Goff]

I disagree, the iPad Pro needed to be a direct competitor to the MS Surface Pro and it failed to do that. A phone OS isn't good enough for a screen that is 12.9".

The SP 3 isn't that good of a tablet. Amazing laptop, though.

 

[ACG12]

The SP 3 isn't that good of a tablet. Amazing laptop, though.

And the iPad Pro was the perfect device to make the 2-1 laptop/tablet combo a success. Having an 13" iphone with nothing else is really just worthless without a better operating system. A lot of times I wished my Air 2 could do more than my iPhone because it has so much potential.

 

[Dave245]

Hi.

There seems to be a lot of disappointment in the iPad Pro for some here.

On the contrary, I think it looks incredibly awesome. For me, the reason I have yet to buy an iPad (but I have bought one for people in my life) is because of the lack of multitasking.

''But the iPad can multitask''.

For me, it is the side by side apps that were utterly most important for me. The iPad was something I felt I could do ''real work'' on. Not necessarily game development, but as a college student I write papers and constantly need to access at least two things at once. I also need to constantly access other files, which we can easily do now thanks to the iCloud drive app.

I really feel like Apple hit it out of the park. I was never a fan of the Surface completely because I felt there was too much ''PC compromise''. Meaning? I can run ''full apps'' but they weren't designed for touch screen...and the hardware wasn't powerful enough to run full games.

The iPad never needs to be an OSX clone, but it does need to take important features from full PCs/Macs which I feel that they have done.

I think this will be my first iPad.

I have to agree, there have been a few posts from people disappointed but I'm the opposite I think Apple knocked it out the park and I'm glad they didn't put OS X on a tablet it's a bad idea, IOS is much better for touch and with the multitasking features and the Apple Pencil I think the iPad Pro will be a great device for content creation and consumption, I think creative types are going to be able to do some great things with it.

 

[Night Spring]

I was never a fan of the Surface completely because I felt there was too much ''PC compromise''. Meaning? I can run ''full apps'' but they weren't designed for touch screen...and the hardware wasn't powerful enough to run full games.

That's a great point, and one that I totally agree with. Microsoft's approach allows third-party developers to sit back and not provide a touch optimized version of their apps, while Apple forces them to write touch-screen apps if they want to be on the iOS platform.

However, for me, the iPads from the original to the Air2 are the iPads as they should have been. I don't have much need to have more than one app open at once (even on desktop computers I often have all my apps open full-screen), and the iPad Pro seems too big to comfortably hold and use as a tablet. I hope the iPad Pro turns out to be your dream device, but just wanted to point out that what a product should be is different for everyone depending on their needs/wants.

 

[Michael Goff]

And the iPad Pro was the perfect device to make the 2-1 laptop/tablet combo a success. Having an 13" iphone with nothing else is really just worthless without a better operating system. A lot of times I wished my Air 2 could do more than my iPhone because it has so much potential.

So, basically, you want app makers to take advantage of the Pro.

 

[Skylitfly]

Hi.

There seems to be a lot of disappointment in the iPad Pro for some here.

On the contrary, I think it looks incredibly awesome. For me, the reason I have yet to buy an iPad (but I have bought one for people in my life) is because of the lack of multitasking.

''But the iPad can multitask''.

For me, it is the side by side apps that were utterly most important for me. The iPad was something I felt I could do ''real work'' on. Not necessarily game development, but as a college student I write papers and constantly need to access at least two things at once. I also need to constantly access other files, which we can easily do now thanks to the iCloud drive app.

I really feel like Apple hit it out of the park. I was never a fan of the Surface completely because I felt there was too much ''PC compromise''. Meaning? I can run ''full apps'' but they weren't designed for touch screen...and the hardware wasn't powerful enough to run full games.

The iPad never needs to be an OSX clone, but it does need to take important features from full PCs/Macs which I feel that they have done.

I think this will be my first iPad.

I don't know if you were aware of the fact that split screen multitasking is available for iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 4 also. No need for iPad Pro if thats the only thing you were waiting for.

 

[Skylitfly]

And the iPad Pro was the perfect device to make the 2-1 laptop/tablet combo a success. Having an 13" iphone with nothing else is really just worthless without a better operating system. A lot of times I wished my Air 2 could do more than my iPhone because it has so much potential.

Your Air 2 can already do a lot more than your iPhone. And more importantly it's better at the same tasks.

-Does your phone have multitasking? Would it be useful on 4.7" screen? No.
-What about Picture in Picture?
-Or iPad optimized apps with more content on screen?
-Or iPad exclusive apps?
-Or gaming which is much more immersive on iPad.
-Or the fact you can actually use office and other productivity programs on iPad. Even thought those are also available for iPhone I find them completely unusable on 4.7" screen.

 

[malih]

It seems most of the people who fail to see a positive of iOS on iPad Pro never actually use any iPad daily.

Any OS, including Windows, have a lot of shortcomings that can be worked around by installing 3rd party apps. But only people who have use the OS daily knows what app to install to solve their problems, Google is your friend.

 

[Kal-037]

The price.... And the size is a tad too big.
I would have been fine with an 11 inch art tablet. But the main issue I have is the friggin price. ($1100?!?) and I'm a bit confused/annoyed how they try to tout this as a Surface Pro type thing yet always get on Microsoft and other Companies about hybrids... this Lablet? Taptop?...MaxiPad is a failure in that sense. Had it just been 11 inches, with a pencil, less expensive, and no stupid keyboard I would totally have gotten one for my sketching and drawing. As it stands now though I'm good with my $.50 pencil and $20.00 sketch pad compared to a $1100+ laptop/Tablet... Thing.

*sorry, I've tried not to be all negative and whiny about this, but I think this is like that whole iPad 3 issue from 2012.
Sir Tim of Cook needs to remember that he's the one who always made fun of hybrids... yet he is trying to make one now. I'm not sure what he's doing, Apple still has great things and I love what he has done with all their other products and services, but this is a fail in my book.
When it actually is released, I'll still check it out, and there is a chance I change my mind on the thing in terms of wanting one, but I probably won't be able to, due to price.



Kal.

 

[Kal-037]

It seems most of the people who fail to see a positive of iOS on iPad Pro never actually use any iPad daily.

Any OS, including Windows, have a lot of shortcomings that can be worked around by installing 3rd party apps. But only people who have use the OS daily knows what app to install to solve their problems, Google is your friend.

Despite my issues with this device... I completely agree about the iOS being on the Pro instead of something else. I think iOS is far more capable than what some think. I used my original iPad (2010) as a computer, productivity device, and media consumption until I bought an iPad 4. After using the iOS on that I was blown away. I barely use my MacBook since my iPad is so capable of doing most of the stuff I'd use the MBP for. I think the screen size, screen quality, light/thinness and power of the iPad Air 2 is awesome and so this feels unnecessary. It's definitely a "want not need" almost more so than the Apple Watch. At least that thing has serious health benefits. I can just imagine watching a movie on the Pro, falling asleep to it, and then waking up in the hospital with a busted nose, due to it falling over and smacking my face. Ha ha.

Kal.

 

[maflynn]

The SP 3 isn't that good of a tablet. Amazing laptop, though.

Its not and I think the size is one reason why. I'm having trouble seeing how the iPad Pro can be used like a normal iPad - at least for extended periods of time.

 

[Four oF NINE]

I think iPad Pro has some great features, but I would have liked to have seen all those features on the iPad Standard size, 9.7 inch screen. We know the magic keyboard only works with the MacBook Pro; this feels artificially constricted.. What about the Apple Pencil? Will it work on the 9.7 inch and the iPad Mini?

 

[Rogifan]

I think iPad Pro has some great features, but I would have liked to have seen all those features on the iPad Standard size, 9.7 inch screen. We know the magic keyboard only works with the MacBook Pro; this feels artificially constricted.. What about the Apple Pencil? Will it work on the 9.7 inch and the iPad Mini?

Next year, at least for the iPad Air. Just like iPads didn't get Touch ID the same year as iPhones did my guess is Apple wanted the iPad Pro to be the 'star' this year and then eventually it will trickle down to the rest of the line. Same with 3D Touch which is iPhone only now. Of course there also could have been engineering/resource/supply constraints that we don't know about.

 

[Rogifan]

It seems most of the people who fail to see a positive of iOS on iPad Pro never actually use any iPad daily.

Any OS, including Windows, have a lot of shortcomings that can be worked around by installing 3rd party apps. But only people who have use the OS daily knows what app to install to solve their problems, Google is your friend.

While do I think there's a lot Apple can do with iOS on iPad I don't get what exactly makes it a phone OS in the eyes of some? Is it the icons on the home screen? Is it no user exposed file system (aside from iCloud Drive app)? It sure seems to me Apple is working to make iOS on iPad more capable and take advantage of the larger screen.

 

[Ledgem]

Sir Tim of Cook needs to remember that he's the one who always made fun of hybrids... yet he is trying to make one now.

Technically, this isn't a hybrid. The Surface counts as a hybrid primarily because it runs a desktop operating system. It also has standard computer connectors, but the operating system is the big factor. The iPad Pro still runs iOS. It would be a hybrid if it ran OS X. (Yes, the kernel is the same in both, but I'm talking about the user interface.) I like the concept behind the Surface and am not against hybrids, in general; I think that iOS will eventually move in the direction such that it almost feels like a hybrid OS, and I have nothing against that. But for now, at least, Apple is keeping its touch-based devices primarily centered around touch input, which means keeping desktop-based operating systems off.

I think iPad Pro has some great features, but I would have liked to have seen all those features on the iPad Standard size, 9.7 inch screen. We know the magic keyboard only works with the MacBook Pro; this feels artificially constricted.. What about the Apple Pencil? Will it work on the 9.7 inch and the iPad Mini?

The Apple Pencil will only work with the iPad Pro, at least for now. The tip appears to be plastic and thin, and it can be used at extreme angles. It also has "palm rejection" when the pencil is near the screen. All of that points to Apple using an active digitizer in the iPad Pro. Since the standard iPad and iPad Mini lack that, the pencil would not work on their screens. My guess is that we'll see the addition of Apple Pencil support next year (or perhaps with further product differentiation, with an "iPad Air Pro" and "iPad Mini Pro").

It's a pity, in a way. I use an iPad mini at work. An iPad Air would be a bit tight, but I could fit it and use it. The iPad Pro is a bit too big. Stylus support is my most-desired feature for my iPad... I'll have to see it in person to determine if I can make it work. Where there's a will, there's a way, after all, but I wish they'd offer an iPad mini (or even an iPad Air) with the stylus support.

 

[TallManNY]

Wow a college student talking about getting the iPad Pro. Kind of pricy for a kid who is probably interning over Summers for something not much more than minimum wage.
Considering you will need/want a laptop or desktop as well, and when available that PC (hopefully a Mac) will be more powerful than the iPad Pro and easier to work on, the iPad Pro is either a luxury item or a workflow critical item.

It is a neat device. And don't get me wrong, I like iPads. I've bought four so far in their existence. And I don't regret any of my purchases.

The keyboard case seems like a rip off though. Just get a normal bluetooth keyboard case from a company like Belkin. It will be half the price and just as good, while only slightly thicker.

 

[Michael Goff]

Its not and I think the size is one reason why. I'm having trouble seeing how the iPad Pro can be used like a normal iPad - at least for extended periods of time.

For me, it isn't the size. For me, it's the UI that is getting there but not quite done yet.