The iPhone 5C/5S will fail like the iPod

[-js-]

Wow. This explains A LOT about he folks on this site. I feel better now.

OK. First. Sodner, that is one awesome avatar! LOL!

Second, yes, indeed. For a long time now I've been astonished at some of the reactions from people here on MR. You might suspect that thoughtless fanboy pro-Apple-no-matter-what posts would be the most prevalent. But this is far from true. Critical, disappointed posts seem to me to be the most common. If you only ever read the reactions here, you'd think that Apple was the worst tech company EVER! And that each new product was an Epic Fail. Or a yawn-fest of underwhelming proportions.

Meanwhile, out in the wider world, love for Apple doesn't seem to be on the wane, to say the least. It fluctuates, to be sure, but overall Apple has done very well over the last decade.

 

[Tammster]

To be fair, when the iPod was released, it was pretty expensive for what it was, and the iTunes Store didn't arrive for another two years. I liked the concept, but I couldn't justify spending $399 for something that would hold only a quarter of my music collection. I didn't bite until the third-generation 40 GB iPod, and it wasn't until the fifth-generation 80 GB iPod that I was able to hold my entire music collection. Still, it's fun to re-read old threads about then-new product releases. The iPod, iPhone, MacBook Air, iPad, and iPad mini were all going to be epic fails, according to the MR threads.

You're right and it brings up a point that I keep thinking. Most of the "revolutionary" ideas don't seem revolutionary at first and, maybe they're not. However, they have to start somewhere. For me, the iPhone wasn't revolutionary until it worked with Microsoft Exchange (this opened it up to so many more). Siri and similar services aren't starting off GREAT, but the concept is great and 5 years from now it will be just incredible. We'll all remember when phones first started using it.

It might be just my opinion, but the "revolutionary" Apple products/features almost never seem that way at first (all of them, iPod, iPhones, iPad, iPad mini, and all of the features they have) but looking back it's easy to recognize.

I think in the future we'll all look back on the fingerprint scanner (which may or may not work great the first few models) and be amazed that we ever had to actually enter in a password. Think about it, in 20 years will any device need an actual password??? This is just the beginning guys. Some will recognize it and many will make fun of it and complain about it.

 

[KittiFatale]

I had no idea this site was THAT old. lol

 

[marksman]

So freaking funny. You could edit iPod to any new product has announced since then too.

The comments are great.

 

[James717]

Apple (AAPL) tanked today as investors reacted to the latest iPhone offerings. Shares fell as much as 6% during the day, their biggest plummet in more than five months. As expected Apple unveiled a refresh of the iPhone 5 called the 5S, as well as a lower cost option called the 5C. That model is aimed mainly at emerging markets. It will initially sell for $99 with a service contract. But there are concerns because the price climbs to $733 without a carrier subsidy in China. Here in the U.S. it will sell for $549 without subsidies.

 

[aapplephone]

I found this thread back from October 2001 when Steve Jobs was unveiling the very first iPod. It's pretty funny, read it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

Tech pundits..

 

[-js-]

Apple (AAPL) tanked today as investors reacted to the latest iPhone offerings. Shares fell as much as 6% during the day, their biggest plummet in more than five months. As expected Apple unveiled a refresh of the iPhone 5 called the 5S, as well as a lower cost option called the 5C. That model is aimed mainly at emerging markets. It will initially sell for $99 with a service contract. But there are concerns because the price climbs to $733 without a carrier subsidy in China. Here in the U.S. it will sell for $549 without subsidies.

Yeah, that's because investors made the mistake of reading the MacRumors reaction to the 5C and 5S and got scared and sold as quick as they could. But, in two weeks, when 5C and 5S sales numbers are coming back in, the stock will soar.

 

[James717]

Yeah, that's because investors made the mistake of reading the MacRumors reaction to the 5C and 5S and got scared and sold as quick as they could. But, in two weeks, when 5C and 5S sales numbers are coming back in, the stock will soar.

no, it's not a good indicator of how the iPhone will do.

After 2 weeks or even a month, iPhones will only be available to only a few available countries. Granted these countries are the main audiences for the company, but since the release is not world-wide, there will always be negativity surrounding Apple's business practice.

On Sept 25, Samsung Galaxy Note 3 will be released worldwide
Google Nexus 7 is making steam in Asia.
Xiaomi is gaining publicity in China.
Korea has the new LG that's just as fast as the iphone 5S.

Lots of options and many of those options have niches that cater to certain groups of buyers.

Plus, smartphones are no longer a change-once-per-year luxury item. They're resistant and durable and truth be told, unless it's a game-breaker, there's not much to worry about in terms of upgrades.

Apple stock would be a good buy right now.

Will it go up? Not until 2014 I predict. They need the MacBook Pro to really shine. The iPad Mini is already in catch up phase and the iPad main hasn't been updated in over a year (15 months now).

Good luck with your investments. Apple stock is a good buy, but it would take a good 8 months for a decent return.

 

[MattInOz]

This Christmas you will see mp3 players be commoditized. Meaning that the players from Korea will be way less expensive tha iPod. The real money is in DRM and distribution (ala Real Musicnet). If Apple were smart they would be focusing on high gross revenue from services rather than a playback device.

It's funny Apple did sort of follow this advice, they do now operate the most successful online music stores and it still doesn't make anywhere near the revenue of the now declining iPod line.

Maybe in another few years he'll be right. Well except for the DRM thing.

 

[masands]

Apple (AAPL) tanked today as investors reacted to the latest iPhone offerings. Shares fell as much as 6% during the day, their biggest plummet in more than five months. As expected Apple unveiled a refresh of the iPhone 5 called the 5S, as well as a lower cost option called the 5C. That model is aimed mainly at emerging markets. It will initially sell for $99 with a service contract. But there are concerns because the price climbs to $733 without a carrier subsidy in China. Here in the U.S. it will sell for $549 without subsidies.

I guess you missed this comment from that thread.

Mmmm. APPL is already down $1.00...

Looks like the markets aren't looking too favorably on Apple's new forays into the digital device market.
Of course the iPod is cool, neat, whatever. You wouldn't expect anything less from Apple. But I agree with most on this forum. $400 is simply too much in the present economic climate. One other thing. I'd like to know what their margins for the iPod are.

 

[Fruitcruncher]

Nay-sayers

There are 2 types of nay-sayers:

1) Those who hate Apple for their success rather like hating Manchester United for doing well under Sir Alex Ferguson

2) Those who are objectively critical of Apple but the Cult of Mac take offence to such heresy and sneers at them rather smugly.

The iPhone 5S simply addressed existing weaknesses in the iPhone 5 an 4 series flash. It's added a slightly improved sensor and a fingerprint scanner. I'm sure the latter will be well executed. Will it sell? Yes. Will it break records and stuff the competition? No

Apple needs genuine leaps forward in 2014 for the stock price to shift upwards to a long-term peak again. The iPhone 4-5 series is a mature product both market and innovation wise. The key will be what the 6 series brings to market in 2014 and new products like an Apple Smart TV. For me the finest products in Apple's portfolio right now are the models in the MacBook range from the Air to the Retina.