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The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?
 
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The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices.
Thus the lower cost. :)
 
The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices.
apple had no choice really as there wasn't enough panels available for two OLED devices
 
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Who cares! Apple biggest mistake is the trillion dollar company it is close to becoming with all of us buying their products:rolleyes:
 
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i picked up my 7+ today and it just feels old, the screen is just mediocre. it’s nice to see what i’ve been missing. ios looks so much better with a nice resolution.
 
They aren’t mistakes. They are good phones that clearly still have at least some demand judging by the response here. The truth is that it’s a bridge product. Since the X is such a radical departure the 8 is here to bridge the gap between the two generations.
 
The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

The first generation of anything tends to be frock with issues and design trade-offs.

IMO, compared to LCD, the OLED screen technology is still quite raw and immature. I am not sold on the size of the iPhone X... the 19.5 x 9 aspect ratio is just plain crazy... it's too narrow for the height. The software choices for gestures seem random and arbitrary... FaceID is an immature technology, whereas TouchID is intuitive. I can pull my phone out of my pocket and have it ready to use without a thought (or without a glance). None of this bogus "look at it, now swipe up to open" malarky.

That's why I didn't buy it, and will be quite satisfied with my iPhone 7+. No need to spend over $1K for an "experimental" device. (And that's MY opinion, so take it for what it's worth).
 
Thus the lower cost. :)
I wouldnt buy anything at all if it was just the 8/8+. Those are barely upgrades at all. If someone told you the 8 was a 7 no one would question it. They couldve gotten away with an iPhone 7s name tbqh.

Lets be honest. People should stick with a 7/7+ if they are on a budget. Nothing wrong with the 7/7+. It does everything the 8/8+ does minus the wireless charging which literally no one needs and most will barely use if ever use. We have a wireless charging pad at home and we havent used it once since my roommate got his galaxy S8+.

People think they are doing something by buying an overpriced 8/8+ that is barely distinguishable from the 7/7+. There is nothing new being brought to the table.
 
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The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices.

So an OLED screen that will get burn in is better than a screen that won't get burn in? How many apps are ready right now for the iPhone X? You are paying $1000+ to beta test a new phone that will spend the next year getting ready for prime time. Next year the X2 will have all the apps ready and all the polish from the lessons learned. Enjoy trying to justify your purchase. The fact that you are doing so.just confirms you made a mistake on that purchase.
 
I can pull my phone out of my pocket and have it ready to use without a thought (or without a glance). None of this bogus "look at it, now swipe up to open" malarky.

Just to clear up this inaccurate statement because I’ve seen it several times. FaceID only works like that if you want it to. If you want to get right in, swipe up and then look at it. FaceID will authenticate and go straight to the home screen. It is about as fast as using TouchID with the added benefit of being able to do it the way you describe, which allows you to keep notifications private.
 
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Just to clear up this inaccurate statement because I’ve seen it several times. FaceID only works like that if you want it to. If you want to get right in, swipe up and then look at it. FaceID will authenticate and go straight to the home screen. It is about as fast as using TouchID with the added benefit of being able to do it the way you describe, which allows you to keep notifications private.

Even with that 'look at it' functionality disabled, you still have to pull the phone out and aim it at your mug to unlock it.

I can unlock my iPhone 7+ BEFORE it's even out of my pocket. By the time I have the phone out, it's ready to use.
 
Someone should make an iPhone X is better thread.

Then someone should make an iPhone 8/8+ is better thread.

We’re never going to get to the bottom of this until we can talk about it.
 
Even with that 'look at it' functionality disabled, you still have to pull the phone out and aim it at your mug to unlock it.

I can unlock my iPhone 7+ BEFORE it's even out of my pocket. By the time I have the phone out, it's ready to use.

Right. I understand your point. I am just
Telling you, from a 7+ and X user, in practice they work the same. FaceID is pretty fast. I feel no functional time difference between the two when I want to get straight to the home screen and I appreciate the option to see my notifications.
 
I had a 7 plus and upgraded to the 8 plus. Im very happy with my decision, I have no regrets. I really wanted wireless charging and the X is too small for my liking, I got used to the plus size way too much to give it up. If there was a X plus this year, my hubby and I would be first in line to buy it. Hopefully, they will have it next year.
 
I love how quickly people just **** on Touch ID. It was blazing fast and extremely reliable.

But now Apple has ditched it and went with something new, I start seeing ridiculous claims like “Touch ID fails me half the time”, “Touch ID is cumbersome”, and “Face ID is better in every scenario”.

How difficult is it for some sheeps to understand that just because Apple did it doesn’t mean it’s perfect?
 
I think Apple brilliantly foresaw its market.

They were never going to get all iPhone users to buy into a totally new form factor with the X. The 8/8+ have their share of tried and true features with a wireless charging option thrown in for a decent discount versus the X.

The X seems to be a baby step towards what Apple ultimately wants to achieve in an all screen front with regards to screen size, seamless front display, and immersive experience starting with augmented reality.
 
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Someone should make an iPhone X is better thread.

Then someone should make an iPhone 8/8+ is better thread.

We’re never going to get to the bottom of this until we can talk about it.
The trick isn't to talk about it as much as it is to repeat the same "discussion" multiple times on an almost daily basis.
 
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I went to the store and played with an X. My first feeling on touching one was: This is the X? What's so different? Sure, screen looks nice, but I never complained about my 7 Plus screen. Looked at a few photos, none of them really popped out at me. Watched some videos, not that noticeably different. Took me a while to figure out how to multi-task without closing an app. Kinda felt naked without the home button. All in all, sure the screen is nicer compared to my 7 Plus, but not worth paying $1150 for a new phone when my 7 Plus is running just fine.

I guess 7 Plus is powerful enough for me at this time and I like Touch ID enough to want to keep using it. I'm happy to invest my money in a 12.9" iPad Pro 512GB LTE instead.
 
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