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The iPhone and iOS both are in desperate need of an upgrade
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I love posts like this. So, according to you, Apple should just close it's doors and never introduce another phone because this one does everything you want it to. Check.Maybe people should stop whining and just use the phone. I use my iPhone for business and pleasure all day every day, it's gets a work out for sure, and does everything I need it to do.
Don't worry, Apple keeps us in top of the user experience and thats not going to change anytime soon.
I love Siri, it's such an unbelievable time saver, the display is sharp and crisp, phone is fluid and fast, fits nicely in my hand and pocket, battery life is excellent, all the business apps I need and so much more ... I mean what the hell use the damn thing and it's current features and ENJOY it.
This whinning ... boo hoo I want a widget, and a quad core processor, I'm bored with the UI bla bla bla, its ignorant and maybe if you're so intent on a phone changing to please you every few months you've gotta bigger problem - get out more ...
No one is as focused on the end user experience more than Apple and when they can add things like quad core, widgets or whatever properly and not at the expense of battery life or something else they'll do it.
Or, if you're that techy and must tinker buy an android phone because Apple is NEVER going to satisfy you. Apple builds products to please and work for the MAJORITY of the consumers, not the 1 or less out of 10 that needs a fix by tinkering with their phone trying to get it to work properly ...like finding roms, usable keyboards etc etc. Oh no, that's not what the average person wants a smart phone for, they want it too work, that's it.
Just look at your local classifieds, Craigslist or whatever there's hoards of people looking to sell or trade android phones for iPhone's.
Yes, the carriers love to sell android phones for better margins, the geeks in the cell shops think all consumers should be techies, but in the end the average consumer is disappointed in android compared to the ease of use and fluid action of the iPhone.
So what's your point
I would like to see a system implemented that would clear all background processes in one step. It's annoying to pull up the multitasking drawer and see many apps running; it takes a while to close all of them. I would also like to see a similar feature for notification center.
A face unlock feature similar to that of Android's would be good, too. The face unlock would only be an optional way of unlocking i.e. when at the lock screen the system would try using face unlock, and when that doesn't work one will be able to enter in a password.
A face unlock feature similar to that of Android's would be good, too. The face unlock would only be an optional way of unlocking i.e. when at the lock screen the system would try using face unlock, and when that doesn't work one will be able to enter in a password.
While I realize there are some things related to the smartphone aspect that could be improved, like unused lockscreen or fact that the main screens remain portrait unlike on ipad, I don't understand why care so much about the OS on a smartphone.
The fact that is so invisible is its strenght (issue is on the iPad, that's a completely different story, agree that's too limited there). Turn it on, direct access to all the apps with no other nerd gimmicks.
I use the iPhone as my main smartphone because of three basic things, overall build quality and size combined with good battery life, games on Appstore, apps for musicians on Appstore. If you want to play with widgets go Android, what's the problem. Or want a more fancy UI go for the new breed of MS phones, like the Lumia, which I really like (graphic-wise I mean).
Focused approach, why everyone wants to play with everything in their hands? Every device has it's own personality
The fact that is so invisible is its strenght (issue is on the iPad, that's a completely different story, agree that's too limited there). Turn it on, direct access to all the apps with no other nerd gimmicks.
I use the iPhone as my main smartphone because of three basic things, overall build quality and size combined with good battery life, games on Appstore, apps for musicians on Appstore. If you want to play with widgets go Android, what's the problem. Or want a more fancy UI go for the new breed of MS phones, like the Lumia, which I really like (graphic-wise I mean).
Focused approach, why everyone wants to play with everything in their hands? Every device has it's own personality
Early adopter is used differently in that picture that what were were discussing. You spoke of the first group. I used "Early Adopter" as a synonym of that... not what the graph shows.
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I don't think the face unlock worked all that well.
This really is incredible. Another person who can write but not read what they're quoting.
No where in this thread or in any post I ever made in this forum have I suggested or implied Apple shouldn't innovate. Give me a ****ing break, I know there's a lot of in android fans here but do not spin my words or misquote my posts.
Being so anxious for new features wipes out common sense for a lot of people. Apples update schedule for iPhones suits me fine. It's smart business on Apples behalf for numerous good reasons.
They're the leader imo in smartphones and tablets by a large margin. It's great they achieved that without rushing numerous unfinished features to market, or at the expense of performance. I'm glad they don't release a new phone every two weeks.
How me saying, relax and enjoy your phone and be confident Apple will innovate and bring us new features, translates into saying Apple shouldn't innovate, or suggest I think they should take the route of rim is just stupid.
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That drawer is not a list of multi-tasking, backgrounded apps. It is a list of recent apps. Its not a task manager, no matter how much it looks like one. In fact, almost nothing in it is truly "multitasking."
On my part I hate most of the OP's suggestions, and I am largely satisfied with my 4S and iOS. I would prefer it if Apple ditched the horrible home button, which is prone to mechanical failure. I'd also like a way of clearing apps in the background with one gesture (yes, I want them out of memory for privacy's sake among other things). I would like a more energy-efficient way of having wireless headphones than bluetooth. A bigger screen would be nice for my eyes. Finally, I would like to see Siri finished and with a complete feature set for the UK.
Overall, though, the bickering between 'Fandroids' and 'Fanboys' in this forum is more stale than any mobile phone or OS.
Overall, though, the bickering between 'Fandroids' and 'Fanboys' in this forum is more stale than any mobile phone or OS.
But Siri works ... mostly (for me anyway). That's why I would like Apple to finish it so that everybody has access to a full feature set.
Yup, soon as I typed that I knew someone would chime in with Siri.
First off, I wrote "numerous" features, so you pointed on one feature that is questionably flawed. I say questionably because it appears far more people are satisfied with Siri than dissatisfied.
Siri works really well for me. To the point it's spoiled me, I never type on my iPhone anymore. I whiz through a high volume of email on the go everyday using Siri far faster than I ever could on the best blackberry keyboard, it's my favorite feature on the phone. (As is the iPad's dictation).
Weather, web searches, filling in forms Siri is amazing. So, using Siri is in my experience, a hard to swallow example of a flawed feature.
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Wow, the fact that I thought of it as a multi-tasking drawer for a long time is amazing.
That quote from Ryan Whitwam is not altogether correct.
It's a list of recently used apps, a list of recently used apps that are frozen in memory ready to continue from where they left off, and yes, also a way to kill apps that are stuck running in the background or in a buggy loop. In other words, a task manager of sorts.
When Jobs said "If they see a task manager, you blew it", what he really meant in his salesman way was "If they know it's a task manager, you blew it."
Before Apple adding multitasking, the Home button served as the way to kill mixed up apps. Afterwards, they had to include some way to do so in case of emergency. Thus one of the task bar's functions is as a task killer.
Apple Support even has a page on killing a wayward process using the task list, entitled "iOS: Force an app to close", to be used when "... an app unexpectedly quits, doesn't respond to your input, or doesn't perform as expected..." (from their page on Understanding Multitasking).
A good example of what that is used for, was with the TomTom nav app, which a couple of years ago would get stuck still navigating in the background even after reaching the destination. Users had to go into the task switcher and manually stop it from constantly accessing the GPS.
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Great point! I'm not sure why I didn't see the light before. Now I completely understand.
The iPhone can do this too. I do it all the time on wifi.
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Because Siri works for him, and for me, and for thousands and thousands of other iPhone 4S owners, and you don't like it, you accuse him of working for Apple? Really?
When someone chimes in with "Siri is perfect, does everything I need flawlessly and is awesome in every way and even makes me coffee in the morning", you tend to wonder about their objectiveness.
The iPhone task bar is very well thought out. It's the reason why battery life is so impressive. The impact on memory is minimal, the most recent 3 apps are held open and only a handful of apps are allowed to be be truly multitasked.
You'd soon moan if it had a battery life of an Android phone.
You'd soon moan if it had a battery life of an Android phone.
Or maybe it just works?
There's a reason that even Apple, themselves, says it's still in "beta". That's not a coincidence.
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Honestly, the battery life on my 4S is abysmal so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Maybe you can't speak English? It works for me. It's not meant to send you to the moon or anything.
Or maybe if I tried to do all this...
...I'd be waiting a LOT longer than it would take me to do it manually. I've also never filled in forms using Siri b/c I'm pretty sure you manually have to click into each text box.
Also, you can't pause in the middle of dictation (like with Google's voice integration), it's not real time (also like Google's), and it has to access the web in order to work (which sucks and makes it slow when you don't have a GREAT connection).
It's worth repeating:
Why would anyone attempt, at the slightest, to speak out against improvements to an operating system they like under the guise of "it just works"? Even "it works for me" doesn't and shouldn't hold clout because it doesn't mean that it can't get better.
Time and time again, on this forum people are punished and argued against for being intellectually honest, all to protect the notion that everything Apple is "perfect" or "just works," without realizing such farce actually does disservice to Apple and its fans.
Why would anyone attempt, at the slightest, to speak out against improvements to an operating system they like under the guise of "it just works"? Even "it works for me" doesn't and shouldn't hold clout because it doesn't mean that it can't get better.
Time and time again, on this forum people are punished and argued against for being intellectually honest, all to protect the notion that everything Apple is "perfect" or "just works," without realizing such farce actually does disservice to Apple and its fans.