The iPhone, iPod and iPad are failures just like the Watch (quotes from the past)

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  1. iCore24, Sep 10, 2014
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    iCore24 macrumors 6502

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    Almost every time Apple release a MAJOR product, their seems to be a big chunk of Apple Fans that whine, kick and scream saying it is stupid, ugly, waste of time, not revolutionary, it will fail, and the last, APPLE IS LOST! I went back to the 3 past Major launches to see if people reacted the same. The answer is a astounding hell yes. Its almost laughable looking at those comments now.
    Moral of this post is don't judge something you just heard over 2 hours ago and wait until you actually see it in person. So heres to hoping that a couple years down we can laugh at these :apple:Watch comments.

    ---------------------------------------------------iPod 2001------------------------------------------------------

    - elitemacor:
    "iPoop... iCry. I was so hoping for something more."

    - WeezerX80:
    "Great just what the world needs, another freaking MP3 player. Go Steve! Where's the Newton?!"

    - Pants:
    "hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up?
    or are you really aiming to become a glorified consumer gimmicks firm?"

    - Nobody Special:
    "All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

    - jaime:
    "revolutionary? There are already two products similar to this on the market."

    - matthodgson:
    "this really isn't that revolutionary of a product. I have a Nomad Jukebox with a 6gig hardrive and it only cost me $250."

    - TheSaint:
    "Mmmm. APPL is already down $1.00..."

    - Guest:
    "I have no use for an Mp3 player.
    My house has a CD player.
    My car has a CD player.
    My Mac has a CD player"

    - Guest:
    "Gee , you've got music everywhere you go...oooohhh boy!
    When I walk I don't need music, when I train in Ninjutsu I don't need music and when I jog I don't need music."

    - Ervino:
    "400 bucks for a MP3 player on steroid? That's a real breaktrought, but in appl... ied stupidity!"


    More here:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500&page=1



    --------------------------------------------------iPhone 2007----------------------------------------------------

    - KindredMac:
    "Do I think some on here are blind little sheep? Yes I do."

    - badboibillie:
    "What do people think about it being a 'blackberry killer' or replacing sidekicks? I honestly use my Treo alot for text messaging and even though i love the chat-like sms (similar to treo in a way), i dont know about texting alot using the on-screen keyboard."

    - Gurutech:
    "I don't know about this product.
    if this was 6th gen iPod, i'd be thrilled."

    - silence:
    "Looks awesome, but missing one thing.... A ********** KEYPAD!!!!!!
    When i'm in a rush and need to call/sms/email someone, i highly doubt fidgiting around with the "touch screen" system will be of any use.
    What's the point of having Desktop/Office applications if you have to type with ONE FINGER at a time!!!?!?
    Arggghhh... what a waste"

    - Stella:
    "Actually, on my ( Symbian ) smartphone I can do everything you list"

    - clevin:
    "u are basically describing a PDA."

    - Quboid:
    "The phone sucked enough of apple's time adn resources. Lets get back to making computer breakthroughs please."

    - Rocket850:
    "The phone is nice but the way it's implemented is a JOKE"

    - farqueue:
    "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS PIECE OF ****
    YOU LET ME DOWN APPLE. YOU REALLY DID. I WAS EXPECTING IT AS LESS OF A SMARTPHONE AND MORE IPOD VIDEO/PHONE TECHNOLOGY!!!
    THIIS SUCKS PRICE SUCKS"

    - Romanseq:
    "Let me put it this way, when a girl texted me, I called her back and said, "What are you twelve?"
    Twelve year olds don't drive sales on a $500 integrated device."


    More here:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=267804&page=1



    ----------------------------------------------------iPad 2010-----------------------------------------------------

    - phobic99:
    "Hmm I guess a keyboard dock is kind of nifty but what does this device offer that virtually any laptop on the market doesn't? iPhone OS with the app store? Ok sure.
    I... I'm just confused and I want to cry. "


    - MacDanny:
    "Anyone who buys this deserves to be shot!
    64gb, 1gHz, no phone or camera, no mention of radio.
    $829 for 3G version AND a data contract!!!
    wtf, this is beyond a slap in the face for a big iPod,
    jog on, Steve."


    - vannibombonato:
    "This is a nightmare. A nightmare.
    An ipod touch with a big screen. They've gone mad. What a sideral fail."


    - Palm Pimp:
    "This is the event that separates the Apple Fans from the Fanboys."


    - sseelman:
    "Oh please........$500 STARTING price for what? What is the compelling reason someone gets this over an iPod touch (truly mobile) or a laptop (truly ergonomic)?"


    - sytnth3tic:
    "It honestly looks like something Microsoft designed."

    - pyroza:
    "ahaha, and all the fanboys eat it up... go ahead and buy it, I'll buy a much more powerful netbook for cheaper"


    - SchneiderMan:
    -"To tell you the truth i really have no need for it, i have an iPhone 3GS and a Mbp. Don't see anything i cannot do with the devices i already own."


    More here:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=854844&page=40



    ---------------------------------------------------:apple:Watch 2014--------------------------------------------------

    - Seoras:
    "I think I was hoping for more and certainly more originality.
    Can't help but think that Steve would have hated that crown.
    It's not within the Ive/Jobs "less is more" philosophy."

    - H2SO4:
    "I think the digital crown is a fail."

    - sandman1969:
    "The iWatch was very disappointing IMO. For the grand hype machine lead up to this event it didn't meet the expectations."

    - koban4max:
    "another gimmick."

    - cambookpro:
    "It's not as revolutionary as the iPhone or iPad, that's for sure"

    - clemensg:
    "Wow, so ugly and thick. Wouldn't wear it if it was free."

    - JKarnsy:
    "It's no iPhone or iPad....But it is amazing."

    - shinji:
    "Meh. Not that exciting."

    - barkomatic
    "All this does is prevent you from taking one second to pull the iPhone out of your pocket to do almost all the advertised tasks better. It seems like a solution looking for a problem."

    - Asclepio:
    "steve jobs died again today"

    - ioioos:
    "This was the killer product I was waiting for to pin fully to one ecosystem, and I think its an epic fail."

    - Wiesenlooser:
    "Apple Watch has shown that Apple has lost its way"

    - iPadCary:
    "Rather complicated to use ....
    That stupid crown on the side ....
    NEEDS a phone to work ....
    Buh-bye Timmy, it's been real."

    - A quote I read and can't find.
    "Only Apple fanboys will buy this"



    Do any of you see a trend here?

    What I'm trying to point out is almost every major Apple product gets trashed A LOT the first few months. But like always, when these people finally ACTUALLY USE the device instead of use assumptions, they will be the first in line to get it.

    I was with the haters when the iPad was revealed, I had for years actually since I really hated Apple. But when I went to BestBuy (I remember this clearly), I laughed to my cousin saying "Oh look the stupid iPad lol". I went up to it, picked it up and swiped the screen...I was speechless. Opening Safari was even more mind blowing. I have a very good feeling some other Apple haters and Apple fans will change their mind when they actually get to touch one.



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  2. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    You seem like you have no life (Or you are a huge apple fanatic) if you are going to spend all this time searching for posts about old products to try and defend a me 2 product.

    Except that this isn't an iPod, iPhone, or iPad. This is a rokr e1.
     
  3. d4rkc4sm macrumors 6502

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    i thought the ipod and ipad were amazing when they were released. bought them both first day they came out. this apple watch... not so much.

    apple watch will be a failure because it doesnt fill a need well enough. jobs saw a need with ipod and ipad and filled it. tim cook just needed to get a new product out that serves no real need.
     
  4. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    Well Apple got rid of that excuse at any rate! :D
     
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    I think this comment will be used in a "Flashback" post in 5 years when Apple Watch is a huge hit and Apple introduces "The next big thing" and people start to complain about it. I personally admit that I see no use for the Apple Watch, but I also thought the iPad was stupid and I own the Air, the wife has an iPad 2, and I used to have a cellular iPad Mini. I also thought the iPod Touch was foolish redundancy and found that I have now owned 3 of them. I just sold my last one last night to fund the iPhone 6 Plus 128GB.

    I can't think of one crappy product Apple has put out in the last 7 years. Can you?
     
  6. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    The problem is that the iPod did everything well, and it filled a niche that was full of poorly performing products. The iPad is running out of steam.

    The :apple:watch doesn't fill any niche, because people don't wear watches like they use(d) mp3 players of phones. And it doesn't do anything better than any other smart watches, because Apple didn't mention anything it does better.

    Does it tell time better? No.
    Does it have a better battery life? No comment - so lets assume no.
    Does it do apps better? No (The apps are better on the iPhone it's tethered to)
    Does it do health better? No (at best it's the same as a FitBit, but with worse battery life).

    Notice that with the iPod, Apple (re) defined an MP3 player, and with the iPhone, Apple defined it as a (poor) cellphone, (good) iPod, and (great) Web browser.

    The :apple:watch wasn't defined like that. And by tethering it to the iPhone, it's always going to be second fiddle to the iPhone - which means by definition it can't do anything better.

    Prove me wrong. I want to like the :apple:watch, but nothing Apple announced yesterday won me over.
     
  7. iCore24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No it took me about 20 minutes and I really wanted to make this thread.
     
  8. BvizioN macrumors 68040

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    Regardless of what the OP is, it's really funny tor read these comments and just goes to show how stupid people are.
     
  9. Tammster macrumors 6502

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    You'd think that by now they'd realize that, while obviously not a guaranteed success, the apple watch does have potential to be a a hit, if not "revolutionary ". Maybe not version 1 but in the big picture.

    To insist it's a failure this early in the game, especially based on Apple's history, is ABSURD... seriously.
     
  10. iCore24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Exactly, especially with the apps developers are going to make!
     
  11. cambookpro macrumors 603

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    Eek, that quote's going to come back to haunt me, isn't it... :p

    In all seriousness though, the :apple:Watch looks great, especially the UI. I just think that the hardware design and 'digital crown' aren't nearly as great as Multi-Touch and the iPad interface.

    It'll still sell well - of course it will. But is it going to put as large a dent in the universe as previous products? Perhaps not.
     
  12. MartinAppleGuy macrumors 68020

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    I think the digital crown will work great.
     
  13. madsci954 macrumors 68030

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    I agree with the OP but only time will tell, so let's see where we are next year when Marty McFly arrives (did you see what I did there? ;) ) and see where it is in sales and how different competitors smart watches will be.
     
  14. Nebrie macrumors 6502a

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    You missed the iPhone quotes. The predictions of failure (and glory for the LG Prada/Windows Mobile) were widespread here on MR.
     
  15. iCore24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Duh! Forgot about that. Ill add it up their.
     
  16. shinji macrumors 65816

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    Because the iPod, iPhone, and iPad were successful, that means everybody has to blindly love every new thing Apple releases?

    You and the 9000 other people who made similar threads are trying to make a point about the future success of a product based on people not liking it in on day one. Why aren't you also including the Xserve, Aperture, or Bento- all three of which have been discontinued? Why aren't you including the Apple TV, which- though not discontinued- has certainly failed to live up to the standard you chose to use with those three products.

    You have no clue how successful the Apple Watch will be, and neither does anybody else. It's also not being released under Steve Jobs' helm, unlike those three products. It may be successful several generations down the line, or it may end up languishing, or they may discontinue it. Who knows?

    That doesn't mean everybody has to love it right off the bat.
     
  17. cleirac macrumors 6502

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    Bravo, about time to do this!
     
  18. iCore24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Exactly, we don't know, I'm not saying it will succeed 100%, but people should not say it will fail 100%. Im trying to say see it in person then judge.
     
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    No no no no! That's not what he is trying to say. Thing is, stupid people tend to "know" everything before they even know anything!!! Based on what exactly would you say that X or Y product would be a failure? On your personal taste? Or on your "visionary" prediction of the future? And are you really telling me that these people who commented here did not end up buying some of these products they were so hard trying to bash? Yes, Xserve, Aperture, or Bento may have been failure but then is up to you to search the forum for silly comments where people went around saying they will be a huge success! I don't think you will find much. And yet people are too quick to be negative about things because that's the easiest way!

    I think if people are clueless, they should shut their gab and save themselves from the embarrassment.
     
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    “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

    -Henry Ford
     
  21. shinji macrumors 65816

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    I didn't say it would fail 100%. You quoted me, and I said, "Meh. Not that exciting."
     
  22. username: macrumors 6502a

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    Great post, good for a laugh. Personally I want an apple watch. That doesn't mean it will be a success. Others do not want an apple watch, or don't see a need for it in their lives. That doesn't mean it will fail.
    People seem to build up an entire marketing research essay in their heads about its success or failure, with zero evidence.
     
  23. iCore24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    It seems the Apple watch is getting more welcomed. Cant wait until its released.
     
  24. Tanegashima macrumors 6502

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    Of course the apple watch will be a success.

    Nobody will resist to at least wanting one, and You bet that many people are switching to iPhone only to "qualify" for the watch.

    The electronics are the most actual, the design of how it looks and how it operates really makes an acute difference here.

    It's kind of ridiculous to compare it to other existing smart watches... Simply tasteless, and tasteless. The sole fact that sport watches outsell android wear and galaxy gear really tells how people want those products. The moto almost-270 may even look good on 3D renders, but in real life looks ugly and it's UI is laggy, doesn't amuse the owner. The sense of effortless operation is never on an android watch.

    Remember when people never tought that "they" had a cellphone? That they didn't needed it? Well, look at it now... where are the pay phones? Where was the last time you have seen a person doing a phone call in a phone booth? Maybe in older movies?

    The same with "cellphones without keys"... At first, nobody wanted "until they stop making phones with keys, I'm never going to buy one of those", or even android phones with slide-out keyboards?

    Unlike some say, there's no reason for high-end Swiss brands to even think twice about it, because they aren't in the watch business, they are in the jewelery business. The concern are with core Swiss brands like tissot that sell reasonable priced watches between 200 and $1K...
     
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    Likewise, almost every time Apple releases a product that sells like crazy, there seems to be a previous time when Jobs or Cook dissed that very product.

    • "What are these things good for besides surfing the Web on the toilet?" - Jobs dissing tablets to his staff, 2003

    • "There are no plans to make a tablet. It turns out people want keyboards. We look at the (idea of a) tablet, and we think it is going to fail.” - Jobs dissing touchscreen tablets at All Things Digital, 2003

    • "I’m not convinced people want to watch movies on a tiny little screen." - Jobs dissing video players to Mossberg 2003

    • No native SDK, because third party iPhone apps could bring down the network - Jobs dissing native apps, 2007

    • "The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don’t read any more.” - Jobs dissing the Kindle or any book or magazine apps, NYTimes 2008

    • "There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps." - Jobs dissing smaller tablets, Apple quarterly earnings call, 2010

    • "We've put a lot of thinking into screen size and we think we've picked the right one." - Cook on 4" iPhone, dissing larger displays, 2013

    (And all of Jobs' stylus quotes might soon join the above list.)

    Yes, it is. So lay off the Apple customers. If Jobs and Cook can be spectacularly wrong, so can they :)
     

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