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With the new recent changes inside the Apple Store, now the Mac Pro isn’t even plugged to anything. It’s just sitting there, turned off, like an ornament for the table. Before it was on and plugged to a Pro Display XDR, now it sits next to a Mac Studio M3 Ultra plugged to a Studio Display XDR.

It’s kinda sad but almost expected since the birth of the Mac Studio made it even more niche.

If this is not an statement that the Mac Pro is basically dead, I don’t know what is it. Instead of just replacing the old display for the new one, they decided to leave it unplugged, turned off and they put a Mac Studio next to it.
 
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With the new recent changes inside the Apple Store, now the Mac Pro isn’t even plugged to anything. It’s just sitting there, turned off, like an ornament for the table. Before it was on and plugged to a Pro Display XDR, now it sits next to a Mac Studio M3 Ultra plugged to a Studio Display XDR.

It’s kinda sad but almost expected since the birth of the Mac Studio made it even more niche.

If this is not an statement that the Mac Pro is basically dead, I don’t know what is it. Instead of just replacing the old display for the new one, they decided to leave it unplugged, turned off and they put a Mac Studio next to it.

Was that Apple Sydney? I saw that as well, the Mac Pro on level 1 was turned on but not connected to any screen. The M3 Ultra Studio beside it was connected to a screen.

It’s almost like they didn’t want you to see what specs it has because it is very out of date.

I think it is dead as a lineup as well. Folks should just go Lenovo PX if they have the dollars.
 
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The fact you can't plug in PCIE GPU's make it completely redundant with the Mac Studio available.

It's not redundant for production houses which use PCIe cards to view footage on color accurate displays via HD-SDI etc and music studios like ProTools cards. There's still plenty of those that need it. You can also add 100GbE network cards, NVME storage devices and internal HDDs via the SATA connector. Not enough PCIe lanes but I think M5 Ultra will add more PCIe lanes than 32 (which is what the M2 Ultra has) compared to the Intel Xeon which has 64 PCIe lanes. This is a sector I don't think Apple wants to lose in terms of client base. Sure, there's no GPU PCIe support, but that's redundant for these types of workflows. The M5 Ultra will have plenty of GPU power if these folks need it, it's supposed to be equivalent of an RTX5080 and the AI cores will elevate its usage.
 
It's nice looking furniture tbh
This was on March 24th at 2 AM in front of the Apple Store in Munich, Germany. Seems like they did the same thing there too, it was not plugged in, judging by the absent power indicator light. This was after the release of the MacBook Neo as you can see.
Well, maybe they got notice from corporate that they were discontinuing it anyways, so they should not put the focus on the Mac Pro.
Sad ****.
 

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This was on March 24th at 2 AM in front of the Apple Store in Munich, Germany. Seems like they did the same thing there too, it was not plugged in, judging by the absent power indicator light. This was after the release of the MacBook Neo as you can see.
Well, maybe they got notice from corporate that they were discontinuing it anyways, so they should not put the focus on the Mac Pro.
Sad ****.
Yep, that other shoe dropped on Thursday.
 
This was on March 24th at 2 AM in front of the Apple Store in Munich, Germany. Seems like they did the same thing there too, it was not plugged in, judging by the absent power indicator light. This was after the release of the MacBook Neo as you can see.
Well, maybe they got notice from corporate that they were discontinuing it anyways, so they should not put the focus on the Mac Pro.
Sad ****.

After the discontinuation of it, it was removed from all the Apple Stores.
 
I am curious though as to what they are gonna do with the display models from the Apple Stores.
They will probably all go back to USA?

The one in Apple Sydney probably won’t show on the refurbished site, I never saw any Mac Pro advertised there.

I’m hanging on to mine, since the top MPX modules are super rare I guess they will go up in value when people are desperate to find them. Likewise the Xeon W3275M which was always expensive.

I guess a lot of high spec machines will end up being parted out and sold as components for people who want to upgrade their machines.
 
Some enthusiasts will probably figure out how to keep 7,1 from kernel panicking after a NVRAM reset when a Xeon Scalable is installed (Platinum 8280 for example)

I wonder how the 8280M performs in comparison to the W3275M. Max memory support is lower, but who is realistically going to use 1.5TB at the moment, far too expensive.

There is an 8280L as well, but no use for us, we cannot put 4.5TB ram in our machines and no need for that much.

I am starting to look what options I have. I'm almost certainly looking at one of these:


The HP equivalent doesn't seem as well designed.
 
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I wonder how the 8280M performs in comparison to the W3275M. Max memory support is lower, but who is realistically going to use 1.5TB at the moment, far too expensive.

There is an 8280L as well, but no use for us, we cannot put 4.5TB ram in our machines and no need for that much.

I am starting to look what options I have. I'm almost certainly looking at one of these:


The HP equivalent doesn't seem as well designed.
First time seeing this generation of Thinkstation. Yeah, I could live with a couple of those in the rack.
 
First time seeing this generation of Thinkstation. Yeah, I could live with a couple of those in the rack.
UK price starts at £7378.99. Ouch. The website blurb trumpets design collaboration with Aston Martin, 'masters of racing car design and aerodynamics'…well, some of the cars are indeed lovely, but the company has been mainly good at setting fire to more pound notes than a football club or many yachts for its owners…eg the (almost certainly apocryphal) tale of David Brown being approached by a friend who wished to pay cost price for a car. The invoice was, of course, an increase on list.
 
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UK price starts at £7378.99. Ouch. The website blurb trumpets design collaboration with Aston Martin, 'masters of racing car design and aerodynamics'…well, some of the cars are indeed lovely, but the company has been mainly good at setting fire to more pound notes than a football club or many yachts for its owners…eg the (almost certainly apocryphal) tale of David Brown being approached by a friend who wished to pay cost price for a car. The invoice was, of course, an increase on list.

What's that got to do with the computer itself? Or is this just pouring cold water on anything that isn't Apple?

Have you used this computer?

Am lazy - assume these take 4 full powered workstation GPUs?

I have seen them with four Nvidia 6000 and dual Xeons. Really insane spec.
 
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What's that got to do with the computer itself? Or is this just pouring cold water on anything that isn't Apple?
Nothing against the system at all. Sure it's solid and a good performer in the right spec, seen enough reviews of older models on YT etc. But Aston Martin aren't the success story the Lenovo marketing department think they are. Reminded me of the Asus Lamborghini laptops (or the endless bits of Ferrari tat). Though if you can afford an AM, you can probably afford one of these. The product doesn't benefit from that association- its merits sell themselves well enough- and buyers won't care about it either. Just a really odd way to try and sell it.
 
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An odd configuration omission (at least in the UK)…no GPU upgrade options at all. Not even something like the weird 4x GT120 option Apple used to offer. Given the range of other options on memory, storage, CPU. ServeTheHome tested one with an A6000, which any UK buyer would seemingly have to buy and fit themselves.
 
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