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Gee finally someone other than me acknowledges the ineptitude of Tim Cook to get products out the door. The AI hem haw on unreleased features has gone on for years now. It’s still a glorified Siri and hasn’t improved like every other assistant. But he got those new emoticons and rainbow watch bands. Steve Jobs is screaming from the grave.
Virtue signaling seems to be their only accomplishment for a while now..
 
Well, I have a cellular Apple Watch that connects to my dad’s iPhone because I got an Android, and I can confirm that I do not get notification summaries on my watch. I do have Reduce Interruptions though.
 
allllll the hate...sheesh. just wanted to offer a different perspective hahaha
I'm largely in agreement with you and those who feel this will result in a winning lawsuit will be greatly disappointed.

Or we may be wrong. Time will definitely reveal the answer.
 
Intelligence honestly sucks. The only feature I tried to use was the Writing Tool and more times than not it could tell me “Writing Tools aren't designed to work with this type of content.” — Just like asking it to rewrite this comment in a more friendly tone.
I haven't attempted it, but I wonder if it would refuse to rewrite or answer certain political or ideological content?

One definitive dealbreaker for me would be if their AI took a stance.
 
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Both these gentlemen present a balanced and articulate position, it was worth the time to watch it.

Let's see how this whole debacle pans out...
 
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I've been an iPhone user since day one—June 29, 2007—but for the first time, I’m seriously considering switching to Android. I’m not a fan of Android’s buggy OS or its weaker integration with my Apple ecosystem (Macs, iPads, AirPods, Apple TVs, iCloud, iTunes, etc.). But Google’s AI—Gemini Flash 2.0, Notebook LM, and what’s coming in Google AI Studio—is impressive. If Gemini starts powering Android phones and glasses while being limited on iPhone, I’m out. Alternatively, if OpenAI or xAI makes a phone, I’d check that out too. Privacy and 'on-device' AI? Don’t care. I just want it to work.

Siri’s a complete embarrassment. You can bet if Steve Jobs were still around, he would have been furious watching Apple screw up like this. But unlike in the ‘90s, unfortunately, they can’t just bring him back to fix it.
 
The change in culture was most evident with the incremental release of iOS features. The definition of Alpha release is an early version of a software application that is still in active development and not feature-complete. Somehow, Apple normalised this and so people were promised vaporware at each major iOS release and then the dev team scrambled to try and have it done and available in the next twelve months. The failure to release the full Apple Inteligence is the failure of this now accepted system to keep up. As a retired software developer, I always considered this outcome as inevitable. The system was clearly broken at Apple as marketing and the exec team were trying to paper over the cracks in their R&D investment and recent failures, by just upping the pressure on the dev team to do something, so Apple could make some noise publicly every twelve months. This time with AI, the Apple marketing and exec teams simply overreached the capabilities of the software team available. Hartley was correct to pickup on some simple tricks Apple did like hooking into the ChatGPT API with the existing code base, so Apple marketing could whack an Apple intelligence branding onto it. Basically the dev team did all the low hanging fruit they could, but updating Siri is clearly a major project, requiring first understanding a very old code base, with no doubt multiple hacks and revisions and then coding whole new chunks of it to work the way everyone expects it to. On top of that a whole new backend system with AI models also needs to be developed. The team is equally no doubt at this point suffering huge morale and burn out problems from this constant circus of trying to meet the relentless twelve month cycles they are under for the sake of marketing been able to hype up sales and keep the illusion Apple is on a roll. The Apple execs simply pushed too hard and broke their staff. The risk now is they will have staff leave on mass, so no doubt part of that press release, was a realisation internally that they had to do damage control and manage expectations on the dev team or risk the team imploding. If key experienced and skilled staff in a dev team leave mid project, things go off the rails really quickly.

Hartleys arguments around the breakdown of the culture at Apple are completely credible in my opinion. The motivation for this change of culture is really simple. The companies share price and PE ratio was not justified given they are now not an innovative company but an interative one. This will effect the stock options of all employees, but particuarly the executive staff who gather much of their incredible wealth on the back of stock options. So they jumped up and down and made a lot of noise about very little to try and give the impression to investors that they were still worth the stock valuation, that they clearly didn't deserve. Over time they just kept over reaching, particuarly when recent projects like the Apple car and Vision Pro failed to meet internal expectations. Recent news in the market shows that increasingly Apple is seen for what it is and I don't doubt after the current correction/recession the market is entering is done, that Apple stocks will not recover to old prices and that really is what this story is all about and the efforts Apple put in to hoodwink the market to try and prevent it happening. The culture at Apple changed because of self interest. They didn't want the company devalued, because that devalued their own wealth.
 
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Little babies crying because they didn't get their new AI toy 👶🍼 and old folks living in the past and wanting SJ back

...so boring here 🥱
 
I haven't attempted it, but I wonder if it would refuse to rewrite or answer certain political or ideological content?

One definitive dealbreaker for me would be if their AI took a stance.
I haven’t tested it thoroughly but to me, [with my limited use] it does seem to be that way.
 
AIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAI. This is exhausting.
 
on one hand i feel like i want a sneak peak into what is coming, but this is just the example i needed to make up my mind I NEVER AGAIN want this. this is catfishing, totally overpromising - and delevering 0.

and i dont know how this work but when i watch wwdc, i dont hear them saying "this show is for the US only" ...

there is 0 features in EU - I went to London to buy the first iPhone and used a bootloader to get it to work in Denmark, because it was not sold here - and yes if you dont sell to Denmark i get it... But you ARE selling to EU.

for the first time im not upgrading not only not upgrading to 16, but also skipping 17, and i found my self looking at non apple phones for the first time since the the original iPhone.

I love my integration between my mac mini, ipad, apple watch and iphone... bute really they are not only late to the game, they promished to win, but i feel like they will never enter it.

this could be a neckbreaker for Apple - seriously, this is like not having GPS in your phone.
 
Let me be the first to entirely agree with Dan, not even in the sense of an advocatus diaboli. I just dont care about AI features. Never took the AI ads seriously, but rather poetic, like the funny weightlifter that clearly was way stronger than any m4 chip.
Do agree that Siri does poor. Gets my commands even worse than my dog. But hey, my mac and phone still get out of the way when getting my jobs done. Appreciate that a lot.
 
I was really looking forward to the French version of Apple Intelligence being released. I tried all features. And it is a disaster. Siri is much worse than before, not having a single clue of what I'm talking about (while Gemini or Copilot react incredibly well). So bad that I removed Siri and Apple Intelligence from my mac, iPad and iPhone. I wanted to change my mac M1 and iPhone 13 for newer products, but it's not worth it. I tried other writing features with Pages, Safari etc... nothing works or I get the stupid message that for the moment, the feature is not available (server's problems). It's an absolute disaster. This is going so bad with Apple Intelligence. I don't know if, in the long run, I'll keep on using Apple products altogether. Because if they can't deliver on this important feature, that means something is not going very well inside Apple. I think Cook's time is up. They need to move forward but in another direction.
 
The vast majority of Apple execs are extremely rich, yet still afraid to rock the boat and expose the emperor with no clothes. Some have done a good job in the past but it is time to step aside and let younger people with new ideas, fire in their bellies and hopefully better ethics take over. I realize that people at these levels are obsessed with their legacy but in reality, other than them, nobody gives a ****.
Tim, I have no idea what else you have going on in your life but from your public statements, from 4 AM until lights out Apple is it. Up before sunrise reading emails and later in the day or evening lying on your sofa on your back watching films on your Vision Pro. Do you want to die with those activities as your last time on earth? Do yourself and us a favor and step down end of this month.
Exactly. Tim's time is up.
 
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