To add..
5. Start a hostile take over
6. Reep the benefits of being the new boss!
7. Enjoy the luxuries of having women or men lavishing you all day long...
Ah yes......
That is how I would go about it.
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To add..
5. Start a hostile take over
6. Reep the benefits of being the new boss!
7. Enjoy the luxuries of having women or men lavishing you all day long...
Ah yes......
That is how I would go about it.
That's funny. Because when I said...
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Translated: "Browsing Facebook all day is fine assuming they're doing their work" - to which I clearly indicated that my issue with the Facebook browsers is that they're NOT doing their full share of the work. Mathematically, one can do more in 8 hours than one can do in 5 hours. Save Facebook/Google/AIM/Yahoo for when you go home. What they do at home is whatever - same with me. But the company pays you 8 hours a day, 5 days a week to WORK.
I don't miss on vacations by choice. I do it because the reality is, I'm the only one at my company who can do what I do. If I take days off, they're still calling me, as are customers. If I end up working on my day off, the company legally has to pay me standard salary in addition to my vacation pay - which is technically stealing from the company. A lot of people at my company have no qualms about ripping off the "big wigs", but that's not how I roll. If I'm taking days off, it's to NOT work. Until they hire someone competent enough to do my job at least as good as I can do it, I don't get the chance to take vacation.
I don't work because I like to work. I work because it's what I do. I'm not suggesting people don't take time off and I NEVER said that. What I'm asking for is not unrealistic or out of kilter.
- Work an 8 hour shift like you're paid to.
- Take your LEGALLY ALLOWED breaks. No more.
- Leave your personal non-emergency matters for your breaks and lunch.
- Focus on the job and give all you can to that job while you're in your 8 hour period.
Why is that unreasonable?
Your "translation" is your opinion/view, I don't think they meant the statement like you are seeing it. I certainly don't see it how you are seeing it, but I'm a rational human that isn't a workaholic.
As for the last part, holy crap.. I really hope you never become a manager, if you do expect VERY high turnover rates.
You do realize these are people and not robots right?
Its unreasonable because your views are that of a workaholic. While I do my best at my work I work to make a living, I don't live to work.
I'm honestly not nosy enough nor do I have the time to spy on my co-workers and figure out what they are all doing. It's not my job, its their managers job.
Most people that say "the company needs me" need to realize that you are just a number to the company, you are not special, you are not exempt from being laid off, and as hard as it might be for you to comprehend the company will go on with or without you.
Right now I am the only one that does my function, while I know I might get calls if I take vacation I don't avoid taking them to appease a company, thats just plain ridiculous. Learn this magic word, its called saying "no". I know workaholics have a hard time saying that word, but if you tell people "I'm on PTO, I will get to this when I get back in the office" 99.9999% of the time they will understand and live with it since most people are reasonable and understand that people need to and will take vacation time.
Get a hobby, get a relationship beyond the cubical walls, and by the sounds of it get a life. A job isn't worth the amount of stress you are giving to yourself.
Edit: Just by reading what you have written in this thread you fit a few of these, you might want to look in to getting some help, the stress you are inflicting on yourself is not a good thing. It's just not worth it in the long run, life's too short to be stressing yourself out over petty things.
http://www.workaholics-anonymous.org/page.php?page=knowing
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What kind of job do you have? Whats your position? I mean you seem really upset at all of this, so why not find a solution? Why not talk to your manager, or whoever you report to and say something like," You know what. I can't stand working with all of these cats at my work. They don't do anything, and there on Facebook all day wasting company time. I'd like to take a vacation ( which it sounds like you really need no offense) and I can't, I wasn't hired to be a baby sitter, and I need a raise if I am expected to continue to work under these conditions."
Its one thing to be upset and vent about it, its another thing to do something about it in a reasonable way.
Its one thing to be upset and vent about it, its another thing to do something about it in a reasonable way.
Honestly, the company probably cares very little about you; you are a worker bee, a cog in a corporation who gets paid a certain amount to do a certain amount of work, and maximize the profit for the person at the top, who doesn't know you at all.
If you left, the company would survive, and probably fill your spot within a few weeks; unless you are Albert Einstein or equivalent, other people can learn your job, just as you did. The company knows this, so to them you are just another number.
You are a workaholic, concerned way too much about what other people do. While I understand where you're coming from, and agree with you to a point, you are also the person who I would probably end up suspicious of as the office snitch, and the very 'uncool' stick in the mud in the office, of which every office has--there's always one, and I think it's probably you.
If you aren't taking your vacations, that makes you a sucker. Everyone else takes theirs, right? And the company soldiers on without them while they are away? Guess what, the same would happen if you took a vacation, so don't make yourself a martyr with a superiority complex about how the whole company would fall apart if YOU and ONLY YOU took a vacation. You're just as expendable as the next guy, truth be told.
You have to work to live, not live to work. What's important to you? Your career or your personal life? There are two ways to look at work:
1) A means to an end. It matters not what you do, because it's simply what you for a few hours each day to pay the bills and do the things that really matter to you in your time off. Blue collar, white collar, pink collar--it doesn't matter.
2) As something you should enjoy and excel at since you spend so much time doing it, and a hint of status/ego thrown in.
While 2 sounds nice, and 1 makes you think of the blue collar Coke delivery guy who tools around town on his own doing his own thing all day making deliveries and being out on the road, 2 is rarely as glamorous as it seems even when it is good. 1 isn't ideal either, as you have to spend all that time at work so it would be nice to like what you do. 2 comes with status, but with that status come alot of sacrifices. 1 likely doesn't have status, but it's probably also lower stress. While I think a mix of the two is rare, I'd wager that those who just look at work as a means to an end are probably happier than those in category 2. But I digress.
Your bosses realize that people spend half the day dinking off, and here's something shocking--your bosses spend 4 hours a day dinking off out of sight of the rest of you, and spend the other four hours telling someone below them to tell you to do something.
You put in work, and you get a paycheck. You are not a slave who should be eternally grateful for every dollar you get from the company, when your work makes profit for those at the top who don't know you and certainly don't share the wealth.
Go to work, be appreciative of your job, do a good job and do your work, but realize work is a means to an end, and relax a little bit. You don't need to be a working stiff, or you'll never have a personal life.
If you left, the company would survive, and probably fill your spot within a few weeks; unless you are Albert Einstein or equivalent, other people can learn your job, just as you did. The company knows this, so to them you are just another number.
You are a workaholic, concerned way too much about what other people do. While I understand where you're coming from, and agree with you to a point, you are also the person who I would probably end up suspicious of as the office snitch, and the very 'uncool' stick in the mud in the office, of which every office has--there's always one, and I think it's probably you.
If you aren't taking your vacations, that makes you a sucker. Everyone else takes theirs, right? And the company soldiers on without them while they are away? Guess what, the same would happen if you took a vacation, so don't make yourself a martyr with a superiority complex about how the whole company would fall apart if YOU and ONLY YOU took a vacation. You're just as expendable as the next guy, truth be told.
You have to work to live, not live to work. What's important to you? Your career or your personal life? There are two ways to look at work:
1) A means to an end. It matters not what you do, because it's simply what you for a few hours each day to pay the bills and do the things that really matter to you in your time off. Blue collar, white collar, pink collar--it doesn't matter.
2) As something you should enjoy and excel at since you spend so much time doing it, and a hint of status/ego thrown in.
While 2 sounds nice, and 1 makes you think of the blue collar Coke delivery guy who tools around town on his own doing his own thing all day making deliveries and being out on the road, 2 is rarely as glamorous as it seems even when it is good. 1 isn't ideal either, as you have to spend all that time at work so it would be nice to like what you do. 2 comes with status, but with that status come alot of sacrifices. 1 likely doesn't have status, but it's probably also lower stress. While I think a mix of the two is rare, I'd wager that those who just look at work as a means to an end are probably happier than those in category 2. But I digress.
Your bosses realize that people spend half the day dinking off, and here's something shocking--your bosses spend 4 hours a day dinking off out of sight of the rest of you, and spend the other four hours telling someone below them to tell you to do something.
You put in work, and you get a paycheck. You are not a slave who should be eternally grateful for every dollar you get from the company, when your work makes profit for those at the top who don't know you and certainly don't share the wealth.
Go to work, be appreciative of your job, do a good job and do your work, but realize work is a means to an end, and relax a little bit. You don't need to be a working stiff, or you'll never have a personal life.
It doesn't seem like you have control over your schedule.
Seems like you have a problem more with management. You seem to have lots of problems with coworkers and you think you can't take a day off because someone will call you, take that up with management if you think you are that important.
Either take a vacation and do nothing, take a vacation and work, or not take a vacation at all, you seem to whine about all 3. Again, take it up with management if you are not happy, the company will not collapse if you are not in the office 24/7.
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Or change your phone number and not give it to the office.
I get upset when my boss emails my personal address (even informed him that emails from the work domain WILL be deleted upon arriving to my personal account). If they want me to answer emails on the weekend they WILL buy me a work phone or pay off my phone bill.
I've found the problem with being irreplaceable at your current position means you'll never get promoted. Sad, but true.
Sounds reasonable to me, if the worker is a wage earner (paid by the hour). I'm a salary man. I get paid the same if it takes me 4 hours to do my work or 14 hours. I find it impossible to work 8 hours at full throttle, I can barely do 30 minutes on a good day. At a moderate pace, with a bit of MR on the side
, I can be pretty productive. I get 8 hours of work done in 6 hours.
No, they pay you to get a job done. There's a difference.
There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself. People are more productive if they take relatively frequent short breaks (there's plenty of research on this if you want to look it up). Sitting there for 40 hours straight is counterproductive.
Now, there are slackers who don't really get much done, and are a drain on the company. No question about that, and yes it's really annoying when you have to pick up the slack because someone else is being lazy. I'm not saying your company doesn't have serious personnel issues. However, it does sound like you need to focus more on productivity and less on trying to regulate what other people do every minute of every day.
--Eric
Wait until you're a manager and try to implement this. Nobody will want to work for you and your group will end up underperforming.
Other than that, if this is really not a people skills problem, it sounds like your company culture sucks. I'd have one foot out the door already.
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The worlds most frustrating job is dealing with dumb people. During my student day I worked as a evening shift foreman in a production facility with unschooled workers. It nearly caused me a mental burn out. It was one of the reasons I started working in academia.
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The worlds most frustrating job is dealing with dumb people. During my student day I worked as a evening shift foreman in a production facility with unschooled workers. It nearly caused me a mental burn out. It was one of the reasons I started working in academia.