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I can see the need for a second mouse button. Holding down a key while pushing down the mouse button is anything but intuitive and efficient. It would be one thing if there were simply a "menu button" that would call up any contextual menu, but there isn't, and that is why a second button would be ideal. Beyond that, I wouldn't care since I am a fan of keyboard shortcuts, but there is no way out of having to ctrl+click for a menu. I know there is an "action" button now, but having to mouse up to a GUI element is never going to be as efficient as an actual button.
 
Originally posted by iChan
you could have a five button mouse... but that mouse will only provide you with 5 functions... what i am trying to say is that, you will have to resort to shortcuts one way or another in the long run...

so instead of simply pressing apple-v to paste, your going to move your hand to the mouse, find the cursor, move up to edit, click, find paste in a contextual menu and click again, (or release hold if that is what you prefer). give me a break...

having a single button mouse is the easiest, most efficient way... having a second button is confusing for a new user and TBH, i don't see a big enough advantage in it for apple to change its tradition and years of user conditioning...
You should read my last paragraph again. Two-key shortcuts are okay and efficient, more so if they perform the same function in all applications (consistent behavior across applications). I would hate to learn that CTRL-F means Find in MS Word, but it means Format somewhere else or Font or File or an application-specific function.

I am not a proponent of bloated design. All I want is a three-button mouse with a scroll wheel. With the Microsoft USB Optical Explorer that I was using until recently replacing it with Belkin's BT mouse, I used the scrollwheel button to switch between applications (Command-Tab). A tremendous fit for those busy periods when I shuffle between apps. Logitech's 8-button mouse?? That's overkill and a little grotesque for me -- a mouse with too many appendages!

Having a single button is the most efficient and easy way for you. What makes sense today might not make sense tomorrow, even for you. As for Apple:

1. Look at the requirements for Shake...a 3-button mouse is required.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...508/wo/Pe6P9JstbNWl21QQjOz1wtvG4ei/1.3.0.5.10

2. Bluetooth in Panther makes use of the right mouse button and scroll wheel. Apple might not (yet) provide the hardware, but its O/S fully supports it.

3. Expose supports additional mouse buttons, and may be the application that finally begins to convince Apple to change with the times.
 
in the words of some writer bloke:
"The only way i'd stop using a mac is if I die and you pry my single button mouse from my cold lifeless fingers"

it's just no the same with a doublle button mouse I generaly use the keybord for most things and I use the command line half the time.
plus drag and drop in osx is taken to a new level lets face it apple is never going to relese a two button mouse ever it would be like changeing the companys name to peach or tangerine it's just not apple
 
Well, that's the point. Human interface devices should adapt to the way an individual works. A one-button mouse works for some, but not for all. I don't care too much about this because I already have choices from third-party companies, but I do care that there's only patchy support for the third mouse button (through a vendor's own drivers).

Whether Apple makes their own multi-button mouse is no longer relevant to me. But I suspect Apple will. First a crack in the walls and then the dam will burst. Anyhow, never say never, and eternity is a very long time (but probably not longer than another 20-30 billion years when our universe succumbs to "entropy death" if current expansion theories are true).
 
I have been using the one button trackpad on my PowerBook since the day I switched in 1999, but mostly because I can never find a mouse that would warrant my switching to a two button. Now that BT is out and my new PowerBook has built in support, I am more than open, but I just have not found a good mouse yet. I don't understand why Bluetooth has such a limited adoption rate right now. Whenever I go to the store, the hardly seems to be any bluetooth mice, and if there are, they are limited to the PC world. I just wish there were less RF mice and more bluetooth because the point of wireless is that you don't have to plug anything in.
 
I think the Bluetooth concept and more importantly the Bluetooth vision is not being marketed well. Wireless mice and keyboards are already on the market (RF) as are IrDA (still remember that?) printers/PDAs. So why should someone be interested in Bluetooth and the higher expense of BT devices? If a consumer looks at Bluetooth products in isolation they will be confused.

Bluetooth is about changing the way peripherals interoperate within a work area. A computer is used in conjunction with one or more peripherals: a mouse, a keyboard, a printer, a PDA, a graphics tablet, a microphone, a speaker, a cellphone, etc. This set of devices constitutes a work area and is riddled with wires. Wouldn't it be nice if the work area of the future employed a secure, short-range standard wireless protocol allowing work area devices to interoperate, even to discover each other, without wires and without hassles? Future Bluetooth standards might raise the transfer speeds enough to also support (compressed) video (iSight). This level of convenience would justify the extra cost - initially, of course.

I think wireless networking was also met with some skepticism, but it did not last this long. I remember Apple's debut of AirPort which, I believe, was the first consumer application of 802.11b. At the introduction I remember thinking to myself...huh? I did not get it. At the time 100 Base-T was the dominant standard and Gigabit Ethernet was the future. But with 802.11b we were taking a step in the backwards direction, back to 11 Mbit. So I passed on it.

However, 18 months ago the talk about wireless networks was everywhere and I decided I would try it for myself. Wow! I was impressed. The speeds were more than acceptable and I could move freely around the house and in the back yard while surfing through my DSL connection. Soon everyone popped wireless cards into their laptops and desktops, and the home was fully networked.

We finally got it, but it was not because of any marketing or advertising I had come across. It was through word of mouth, particularly my peers.

Today, I'm the only one in my world who has Bluetooth. And I'm paying more for BT peripherals simply because I have bought into the vision of a work area where all peripherals interoperate through proximity sensors alone.

P.S. I am a BMW fan, so I was delighted to read that the new 5-Series offers Bluetooth connectivity for cell phones. A phone-specific cradle is still needed to connect to the car's microphone and audio systems, but the rest of the hands-free operation takes place through Bluetooth. For example, dialing a number or viewing the phonebook on the iDrive screen is handled via Bluetooth. I believe the cradle is only needed for analog sound I/O.

This is important because it's no longer necessary to buy the cellphone from BMW. Just BYOC -- bring your own cellphone.
 
I know that BT may be more expensive, but when you have a laptop, RF is completely redundant. I want a mouse that is completely wireless, not one that is wireless up to the point where you plug a massive receiver to the USB port. I don't need high speed with a mouse, just something that works so I could turn it on and use it. So far, every wireless mouse I've found for the Mac uses RF, so what is the point of even having BT built into my PowerBook if no one will develop the hardware for it? I was really impressed with the Kensington Studio Mouse and the Logitech MX700 and such, but I only seem to find these in RF which just won't cut it. I'd love to buy into a multi-button mouse, but I am not going to go in half assed, either, so until I find some compelling hardware answers out there, I don't think I'll ever be able to escape a single button existence.
 
Just give it little more time, say 3-6 months. It's not too much to ask for a 3-button scrollwheel BT mouse with full driver support in a compact form factor for $40 and no stinkin cradle. I don't even want rechargeable batteries.

The Belkin BT mouse works well for me right now. As I've said, the 3rd and 4th buttons are not compatible yet, but I still prefer something smaller.
 
I was holding out for a BT version of the Kensington as well. I will drop by their booth at MacWorld San Fran. Just maybe there might be some surprises.
 
I couldn't stand to use any computer without a 2 button mouse. It makes the whole computing experience so much easier and convenient.

Im not pointing any fingers, but I think there are some mac enthusiasts who claim to love 1 button mice just because apple manufactures them. Im betting if apple started selling 2 button mice then it would be hard to find anyone at this forum who prefered a 1 button mouse.

scem0
 
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