iPhone The Near-Field Elephant In The Room

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by ConnYoungy, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. ConnYoungy macrumors 6502a

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    Are we going to talk about the fact that they left out an NFC API for iOS9?
    So much for my dreams of ditching my Oyster card for good.
     
  2. Wormald macrumors regular

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    They said you'll be able to pay for TFL journeys using Apple Pay.

    It'd better be lightning fast though - if it takes any more than 1-2 seconds, its going to cause awkward slowdowns, especially when boarding at a crowded bus stop or station.
     
  3. ConnYoungy thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Contactless TFL payments aren't the same as oyster though, it costs more than oyster and you can't use >Month travel cards by contactless payments
     
  4. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    my understanding was that it was the same rate as oyster PLUS you get a weekly cap (so no need for a 7 day pass), but you are right about monthly passes.
     
  5. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    Couldn't the Oyster card work as a loyalty card?
     
  6. shandyman Suspended

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    I'm surprised that they've not done something about this already. Since TfL is moving to scrap cash payments, I'm expecting them to delve deeper into alternates, which Apple Pay is obviously the start of.

    I've been surprised that Oyster hasn't spread out of London more though. I live near Reading, we don't have it, but the barriers have the pad for it, what a waste! Also, I have nightmare using the ticket barriers, so often the tickets stop working and I need to get them to reprint my monthly pass.
     
  7. marmiteturkey macrumors 6502

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    It's true that you can't use monthly passes on a contactless card; apart from that, contactless and oyster now cost the same, as long as you use the same card every time.
     
  8. ConnYoungy thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    So really it's only a solution for tourists, anyone that lives in the City and regularly travels will buy monthly or longer travel cards because they're cheaper
     
  9. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    I regularly travel and use an Oyster card.
     
  10. ConnYoungy thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I assume you have travel cards on your oyster though no? Unless you only travel a couple of days a week
     
  11. dallardice macrumors regular

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    I travel most days and use Oyster PAYG, but I live on Zone 1/2 borders and most of my journeys are by bus. I need to make 22 bus journeys in a week for a travelcard to make sense.
     
  12. dilap macrumors 6502a

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    I use the bus everyday, but, yes, as for the underground and overground I travel about 2 times a week.
     
  13. Planey28 macrumors 6502

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    They have, they support contactless and Apple Pay. TfL are more likely to bring out monthly caps for contactless at the value of a monthly travelcard. Their long term goal is to go completely cashless and it seems they'd prefer to just support contactless technologies in the long run rather than have Oyster cards acting as a middle-man.
     
  14. marmiteturkey macrumors 6502

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    Not true - I use the overground most days for work, zones 1-3, but the savings for a monthly card are only worth it if I use it more than five days a week, which is not every week. PAYG is the better option for me. Lots of Londoners use weekly or PAYG, the savings aren't huge for monthly over weekly.
     
  15. ConnYoungy thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Weekly/Monthly perhaps not, but Monthly/Annual is a considerable saving
     
  16. steve23094 macrumors 68000

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    If using Apple Pay vs Oyster takes even a second longer to register through the barriers than that's a massive problem for TfL. Think of it at stations like Victoria and the massive people jam it would create. Of course what it has working in it's favour is that not many people will be using Apple Pay.
     
  17. iGeek2014 macrumors 68000

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    And I feel those who do use Apple Pay will tap in/out with their Watches rather than their 'Phones?
     

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