it is different, obviously there will be a learning curve. my mother and father picked it up in quite no time at all
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The new design is not easier and more intuitive. In fact simplicity = confusion now.
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I love people who try the first BETA... BETAAA and then start crying immediately... They clearly don't understand the meaning of that word...
I think the new OS is actually fine to use. The extra functionality is a big improvement. Apple have done a great job there.
My beef is purely with the aesthetics.
1) The icons are dull and amateurish. I appreciate that using a grid-based design can be a fantastic template for print and web-sites but it works because it makes a fantastic use of white-space. In my opinion it is foolish to apply the same principles to a design aimed at one centimeter squared.
2) Gaussian blur is as bad as Corinthian leather, quite frankly it is tacky and not deferential in any way. How can blurring content be deferential to it? Content is important - if it is visible it should pop.
3) The dock is dull, boring and ugly. Gaussian blur at its worst.
4) Folders, which should give a sense of depth, are weird dull blobs.
5) Some animated transitions take too long.
The re skinned apps are great. I would probably rather have seen a border around buttons but the tint in text color for clickable user interface elements is fine.
My beef is purely with the aesthetics.
1) The icons are dull and amateurish. I appreciate that using a grid-based design can be a fantastic template for print and web-sites but it works because it makes a fantastic use of white-space. In my opinion it is foolish to apply the same principles to a design aimed at one centimeter squared.
2) Gaussian blur is as bad as Corinthian leather, quite frankly it is tacky and not deferential in any way. How can blurring content be deferential to it? Content is important - if it is visible it should pop.
3) The dock is dull, boring and ugly. Gaussian blur at its worst.
4) Folders, which should give a sense of depth, are weird dull blobs.
5) Some animated transitions take too long.
The re skinned apps are great. I would probably rather have seen a border around buttons but the tint in text color for clickable user interface elements is fine.
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Good idea but we may never know.
I fear we have to accept a changed Apple or leave for another company. I don't see Ive and Cook changing if they have different views to Jobs.
Apples problem is if they turn there back on the core user base.
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I wish people would stop calling it fine. It clearly has alot to be desired for. Many people don't like it. This never happened as much under previous OS's.
The question is what next for Apple? If they don't improve it after beta I think many will not get Iphone 5S. Some argue it will attract new users but nobody knows how this transition will affect sales. Will more people join or leave? I suspect the later as the word from Android people is as much as they like this change its not offering them anything to jump ship.
Whilst I very much like iOS7 so far, many easily forget the benefits of iDevices to others.
iPads and iPhones are a massive deal when it comes to those with special needs and disabilities. It's one of the reasons we have stuck by Apple, I cannot even begin to tell you how they have opened doors for our autistic daughter.
A fresh iOS was needed, but I am a little worried about how my daughter is going to take this when she gets a hold of it. No doubt it will be a delight to the eye to some, I hear the fan boys complaining about its "childish" looks (er, hello, long gone are the days where iPhones appealled to just the suit and ties!)
From past experience, if the 5S cant produce the goods, then I'll wait til next year - and I have always upgraded, but on hindsight I've always felt stupid for doing so, especially from 4s to 5! I just get caught up in the excitement!
PS. I'm a female....
iPads and iPhones are a massive deal when it comes to those with special needs and disabilities. It's one of the reasons we have stuck by Apple, I cannot even begin to tell you how they have opened doors for our autistic daughter.
A fresh iOS was needed, but I am a little worried about how my daughter is going to take this when she gets a hold of it. No doubt it will be a delight to the eye to some, I hear the fan boys complaining about its "childish" looks (er, hello, long gone are the days where iPhones appealled to just the suit and ties!)
From past experience, if the 5S cant produce the goods, then I'll wait til next year - and I have always upgraded, but on hindsight I've always felt stupid for doing so, especially from 4s to 5! I just get caught up in the excitement!
PS. I'm a female....
Agree with everything said by the OP.
I won't be upgrading to iOS7 if final looks anything close to what I saw at WWDC. I'm shocked that this was even approved for public showcase.
I won't be upgrading to iOS7 if final looks anything close to what I saw at WWDC. I'm shocked that this was even approved for public showcase.
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I'm getting so tired of hearing the "it's a beta" argument. This thread and a lot of others, are about fundamental usability issues that are unlikely to be significantly different when the release candidate is available.
1) Apple is heavily promoting IOS 7 design in it's current form on it's website:
http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/design/
2) iOS was left right and centre at WWDC and was there was an in-depth look at it in its current form with a lot of emphasis on design.
3) At WWDC and on it's website, Apple has heavily emphasised the greatness of the design of iOS 7, including specific reference to appearance and usability.
In my view and a lot of others view, it is a rushed product was not ready for WWDC. This should not have been released as even a public beta let alone marketed so early.
I reckon it will be close to how it will look so its been marketed.
Be interesting to see how it goes down to people who don't use these sites and just update by surprise.
IMO, easier to use, but worse default settings.
The default settings are probably subject to change Or it might have just been my wonky restore
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Well, its still only a beta. I think you have no right to complain at the beta stage. I've done iOS betas lots of times before, and I can tell you, it will get better. Is pretty good as it is now compared to previous first betas.
And there is always this article.
http://www.cultofmac.com/231674/app...cons-overall-design-still-a-work-in-progress/
The default settings are probably subject to change
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Well, its still only a beta. I think you have no right to complain at the beta stage. I've done iOS betas lots of times before, and I can tell you, it will get better. Is pretty good as it is now compared to previous first betas.
And there is always this article.
http://www.cultofmac.com/231674/app...cons-overall-design-still-a-work-in-progress/
I guess you have never done any beta testing before this...
Also there's a difference between marketing and testing... There's a reason it's not a public beta...
With hundreds of millions of iOS devices sold, who exactly is Apple's core user base?
I may be wrong, but aren't apple beta's usually a really good representation of the final product. The beta's are usually just to iron out bugs....not to redesign the look and feel based on the users? That is how apple usually does it right?
I agree.
I don't like that a lot of the icons have been replaced by words. It's a lot more difficult to navigate and looks uglier.
For example, in mail, swipe LEFT (instead of right), and you get 2 large blocks, a grey one and a red one. I can hardly read the white text in the grey block that says 'More'. The red one says 'Trash'. Why not have small icons that have a trash can and a ... or something? It's a LOT more intuitive to have pictures instead of words.
The slide to unlock is annoying. There is no clue WHICH WAY to slide to unlock. I've been used to a left-to-right swipe, and that works, but the other swipes don't work, and there is no clue that that is the correct way to swipe.
The OS is a lot harder to operate for a newbie. You need more training to use it. It's just as easy to use after you have the training, but it's just not Apple.
What if the trash can in OS X was replaced by a big giant red box with the word 'trash' in it? Is that nicer or uglier? Jonny Ive - what are you thinking?
I'm sorry. Maybe you're confused, but this is not a public beta. It's only available to developers. If the people downloading it all over the Internet that's their problem.
It is public in the sense they did a keynote and it is all over their website. This is IOS7, and if people do not like it now they will not like the final version. Will it be more stable and less laggy, of course it will. If they do not like it for the design and layout though they should not expect anything different if the final version.
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Yes you're right. Just the fact that it's so widely available for download made me almost forget that it's not actually a public beta.
While there are a few things that still need some polish, i like the general direction of iOS7. Apple needed to shake things up and this is brilliant. They managed to make a vibrant yet consistent OS and it's going to see a LOT of changes over the course of the beta.
You are correct... That would be the case under normal circumstances... But, I think we should consider the fact that it is a complete overhaul... More of a revolution than a simple evolution...
The WWDC stands for "world wide DEVELOPERS conference"... It is certainly not meant for the public to use it... I agree they have it very extensively on the website... I think it is more to gauge the public response... I don't remember previous versions being highlighted so extensively on their website...
I still feel we might see a lot of changes in the coming months... I wouldn't be surprised if they have a team lurking forums and taking notes...
I feel that iOS 7 is very simple to use. As others have stated, I have given my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 to my parents who both have iPhones running iOS 6 and neither of them had the slightest problem using it.
They both complimented how nice it looked and they wanted to know if they could download it straight away!
They both complimented how nice it looked and they wanted to know if they could download it straight away!
That can definitely be a problem for some folks. I thrive on visual cues as well. However, I don't think these words accurately describe iOS 7. Let's compare iOS 7 to Windows Phone...
Windows phone has no separation between items other than whitespace. There's a button bar at the bottom, but that's it. However, iOS 7 is using lines to split the list from the header and footer of the view. It's using lines to split items within the list (with a different indentation). iOS 7 is also more information dense than Windows Phone in this case. Windows Phone has to rely on whitespace, and the pivot control at the top eats a lot of space. That lets iOS show more information in the summaries, like it always has.
iOS 7 at least uses color to help you out, much like hyperlinks in a web page (usually), to let you know what you can click. In Windows Phone, if those e-mails weren't unread, there'd be no color anywhere in that view.
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personally, I see no confusion with either of those layouts....it is clear who it is from, what is the subject, and what is the message.